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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 0:35:42 GMT -5
I've been thinking... I honestly think 1 Basic Legends series would do quite well. Wait until Hogan's got his figure made so he can be the main figure in it... and have this line-up
Hulk Hogan (80s attire with removable bandana) Ultimate Warrior (RR 92) Macho Man (red trunks) Shawn Michaels (zebra tights) Diesel (black top with black pants) Sid
KMART Exclusives: Hulk Hogan with WWF Title Warrior with IC Title
Like? Dislike? I tried to make it realistic so I eliminated Barefoot Snuka, Kona Crush, and SGT Slaughter
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 0:49:16 GMT -5
Cool, but will never happen.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 2, 2014 0:51:50 GMT -5
While I dont expect them to do it, they could seriously revisit the Legends line (branded differently) if they wanted to with the amount of big names they now have.
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Post by BoJack Hogan on May 2, 2014 1:05:41 GMT -5
I really would feel let down if they started releasing Legends in Basic form. That would be a Jakks move, revisiting the line with a different style of figure. Overall I don't like the idea even though its hard to say no to more Legends. I really feel like if they had waited until like now, done some more market research, and considered other factors, that the Legend line would do A LOT than it did. It started with a whimper and got better, but for all intents and purposes the first two series were lukewarm at best and the 2 packs were a complete disaster. I do think that the likelihood of another Legends line, basic or Elite, is not too likely in the near future, however at some point I wouldn't be surprised if they tested out an all Flashback Elite series. As far as basics go, I feel like if they did reignite the line it would be treated as more of a continuation with Elites, and rightfully so.
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Post by "The Perfect Ten" Mizard on May 2, 2014 8:49:25 GMT -5
I'm all for it
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 2, 2014 13:10:06 GMT -5
I wouldn't really be interested in an extra line of anything at this point, they release more than enough figures as it is for me. But if they did a couple of Legends-themed basic series, I'd go with: First Set Shawn Michaels (candystripe tights) Hulk Hogan (red and yellow classic style) Undertaker (SummerSlam Heritage basic with grey gloves/bootcovers and Entrance Greats head) Macho Man (purple tights from cage match with Warrior) Edge (blue tights from Unforgiven 2006) Ric Flair (green and yellow) Second Set Bret Hart (pink top, black tights) Hollywood Hogan (different tights design to whatever the Hollywood Hogan elite has) Ultimate Warrior (Survivor Series 1990 photoshoot look) Stone Cold Steve Austin (jean shorts, painted "What?" t-shirt) JBL (USA trunks) Trish Stratus (WrestleMania X8 outfit) While I dont expect them to do it, they could seriously revisit the Legends line (branded differently) if they wanted to with the amount of big names they now have. Sure, they could if they owned a chain of thousands of retail stores worldwide. As it stands, they are a toy manufacturer/supplier, and thus can not just "want to" revisit a line of toys that has nowhere to be sold. The quarterly we want Legends line back post! Legends Line is not coming back. Mass Retailers, our direct customers, do not want it. Elite Flashbacks will continue going forward for the forseeable future, 1-3 per each Elite Wave. Elite sales way up last year. I am working on some cool stuff right now. Can't get too specific without getting in trouble and no one wants that. MDT
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Post by Deleted on May 2, 2014 20:26:19 GMT -5
No. Most legends collectors are adults and we can afford better articulation and accessories. We should get the highest end line Mattel produces.
I don't want basics. I still consider debut Undertaker and Million Dollar Man unmade since we never got them in elite form.
We've got some good legends in basic form that should've been elite, such as the green trunks Ultimate Warrior. I would hate for us to get awesome or iconic attires in basic only, such as Camo Sgt Slaughter.
I'm against it except for a redo of someone already in the elite line in similar attire, like Yokozuna and the upcoming basic Undertaker.
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Post by Nivro™ on May 2, 2014 23:04:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't really be interested in an extra line of anything at this point, they release more than enough figures as it is for me. But if they did a couple of Legends-themed basic series, I'd go with: First Set Shawn Michaels (candystripe tights) Hulk Hogan (red and yellow classic style) Undertaker (SummerSlam Heritage basic with grey gloves/bootcovers and Entrance Greats head) Macho Man (purple tights from cage match with Warrior) Edge (blue tights from Unforgiven 2006) Ric Flair (green and yellow) Second Set Bret Hart (pink top, black tights) Hollywood Hogan (different tights design to whatever the Hollywood Hogan elite has) Ultimate Warrior (Survivor Series 1990 photoshoot look) Stone Cold Steve Austin (jean shorts, painted "What?" t-shirt) JBL (USA trunks) Trish Stratus (WrestleMania X8 outfit) While I dont expect them to do it, they could seriously revisit the Legends line (branded differently) if they wanted to with the amount of big names they now have. Sure, they could if they owned a chain of thousands of retail stores worldwide. As it stands, they are a toy manufacturer/supplier, and thus can not just "want to" revisit a line of toys that has nowhere to be sold. The quarterly we want Legends line back post! Legends Line is not coming back. Mass Retailers, our direct customers, do not want it. Elite Flashbacks will continue going forward for the forseeable future, 1-3 per each Elite Wave. Elite sales way up last year. I am working on some cool stuff right now. Can't get too specific without getting in trouble and no one wants that. MDT Hence why I said "I dont expect them to do it" and "they could if branded differently"
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 1:27:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't really be interested in an extra line of anything at this point, they release more than enough figures as it is for me. But if they did a couple of Legends-themed basic series, I'd go with: First Set Shawn Michaels (candystripe tights) Hulk Hogan (red and yellow classic style) Undertaker (SummerSlam Heritage basic with grey gloves/bootcovers and Entrance Greats head) Macho Man (purple tights from cage match with Warrior) Edge (blue tights from Unforgiven 2006) Ric Flair (green and yellow) Second Set Bret Hart (pink top, black tights) Hollywood Hogan (different tights design to whatever the Hollywood Hogan elite has) Ultimate Warrior (Survivor Series 1990 photoshoot look) Stone Cold Steve Austin (jean shorts, painted "What?" t-shirt) JBL (USA trunks) Trish Stratus (WrestleMania X8 outfit) Sure, they could if they owned a chain of thousands of retail stores worldwide. As it stands, they are a toy manufacturer/supplier, and thus can not just "want to" revisit a line of toys that has nowhere to be sold. Hence why I said "I dont expect them to do it" and "they could if branded differently" They might be able to add "flashbacks" to the basic and battlepack series like they do elites. That would brand them differently and just expand on what they're doing with elites. But I don't want any main eventers getting basics over elites. Giant Gonzalez, Kona Crush, managers/announcers, Hercules, etc. would make sense along with guys who already have elites in a particular attire or style like Diesel (or Yokozuna as I said above). Basically they need guys who don't need accessories or who can share an accessory in a battlepack, like Hercules' chain with a Bobby Heenan or purple Undertaker with a Paul Bearer and an urn. Middle carders like Brutus the Barber need accessories as part of their gimmick. The Million Dollar Man need an updated adjustable million dollar belt WITH COLOR. Guys like Hogan, Flair, Sting, Sid and any guy who is a multi-time world champ or a headliner for Wrestlemania should get elite treatment in my opinion. Once they get elites, then you can drop them in the basic line with similar attires. But I don't want an elite Crow Sting and then only have a basic Surfer Sting, for example. That would suck.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 6:48:57 GMT -5
Mattel could easily do an Elite Legends line and sell the hell out of it to retailers. That is someone's job at Mattel, sell the product to the retailers. What retailer is going to turn down lines that are a sure thing? With names like HBK, SCSA, Rock, Taker, Warrior, Macho, Sting?, Flair, Hogan, Hart, basically any big name that there was.
This isn't 2010-2011. People weren't ready to commit to brand new figures of people they had gotten countless figures of from Jakks for the last 7-8 years
They could get a lot of mileage just rereleasing half the Flashbacks they have already put out. Tons of people don't have Bossman, Yoko, Diesel, Nash, Kane, Edge (or slight repaints, whatever)
Mattel and retailers have to realize the normal shelf warmers of a lot of today's "superstars". I know they produce a ton more Cenas, Sheamus, Miz, Del Rios than Legends/Flashbacks but you would think it would somewhat equal out in the marketplace. Supposedly they have thousands, hundreds of thousands, more fans than the stars of the past. You don't see very many Flashbacks warming the shelves (yes there are a couple of exceptions Christian, Giant!!)
But IMO anyone working for Mattel in the WWE section that couldn't sell a line revolving around the stars listed above, sprinkled in with some midcarders, lesser known names here and there, to retailers should probably find another line of work
Also I would love to have the basic line Legends, I collect both Elites and Basics so either will do
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 3, 2014 9:18:57 GMT -5
Mattel could easily do an Elite Legends line and sell the hell out of it to retailers. That is someone's job at Mattel, sell the product to the retailers. What retailer is going to turn down lines that are a sure thing? None. But of course, there's a huge difference between "sure thing" and "thing that the most hardcore wrestling figure collector niche desperately wishes to happen." It's fine for us to fantasise that retro wrestling figures are the most profitable thing in the world, but if we convince ourselves that that fantasy is reality, we set ourselves up to be upset when actual reality doesn't go along with that fantasy.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2014 9:56:07 GMT -5
Mattel could easily do an Elite Legends line and sell the hell out of it to retailers. That is someone's job at Mattel, sell the product to the retailers. What retailer is going to turn down lines that are a sure thing? None. But of course, there's a huge difference between "sure thing" and "thing that the most hardcore wrestling figure collector niche desperately wishes to happen." It's fine for us to fantasise that retro wrestling figures are the most profitable thing in the world, but if we convince ourselves that that fantasy is reality, we set ourselves up to be upset when actual reality doesn't go along with that fantasy. So let's be clear you DO NOT think sets centering around those names I mentioned in the first post would be successful? I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US they wouldn't be sitting on shelves too long. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion
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Post by mrsask on May 22, 2014 23:13:23 GMT -5
I think it's safe to say we'll never get a Legends line in the format we remember. Flashbacks and Defining Moments will likely be the only options.
I must say though that I am quite impressed with the upcoming Basics Summslam set! Legends like HHH, M$M, Undertaker, and Shawn Michaels look great. No they don't have any extras but I'll settle for this as opposed to no Legends whatsoever!
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2014 10:09:47 GMT -5
None. But of course, there's a huge difference between "sure thing" and "thing that the most hardcore wrestling figure collector niche desperately wishes to happen." It's fine for us to fantasise that retro wrestling figures are the most profitable thing in the world, but if we convince ourselves that that fantasy is reality, we set ourselves up to be upset when actual reality doesn't go along with that fantasy. So let's be clear you DO NOT think sets centering around those names I mentioned in the first post would be successful? I'm not sure about the UK, but in the US they wouldn't be sitting on shelves too long. I guess everyone is entitled to their opinion The guys they started out with would've sold fine if they were in more iconic attires and weren't packed so heavy in the stores. Those figs were catered to Jakks people, many of whom didn't want them anyway, yet they produced them as if they were the long lost Beatles album. New legends would work theoretically, but stores won't buy them and Mattel can't make enough of them to satisfy the cost of production. Those two things have been stated by people who know more about this than we do.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 1:36:58 GMT -5
This really depend on the quality and accessory of basic legend figure. Are they going to have painted or non painted clothes on or are they going to be shirtless? Will they come with old WWF belts, entrance attire, other accessory like mic, chair, bandana, etc...?
Would be interesting though.
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Post by PJ on May 25, 2014 17:55:26 GMT -5
I will just be happy if they have more of the heritage type waves.
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Post by TheChosen1 on May 26, 2014 13:59:12 GMT -5
I'm always up for more legends
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Post by savage on May 26, 2014 14:05:08 GMT -5
I'd be really disappointed if they made these in basic form. I'd buy them all as elites.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2014 11:09:02 GMT -5
The legends series is dead. Basic, Elite, Elite two pack. Dead and gone
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Post by punksnotdead on Jun 2, 2014 15:12:27 GMT -5
The legends series is dead. Basic, Elite, Elite two pack. Dead and gone So was the Defining Moments line. So WOOOOOOO!!! Really though, I'm happy with how Mattel has been doing it. They are interjecting the "Legends" they can into the normal lineups, Basic, Elite or otherwise. So I'm happy with that since they will be going for the next 5 years, and likely beyond. It makes collecting more affordable, allows us to catch up at times, and doesn't overwhelm us. For the most part, the Heritage lineup is our Legends Basic line anyway, or at least our "throwback" lineup.
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