PenguinDeluxe
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on May 3, 2014 22:11:24 GMT -5
why does Batista have to be "away" to "promote" a movie? WWE is in like 20 cities a month...it's not really difficult to promote ANYTHING in the world today, with the technology and sharing capabilities we have...what kind of a baby bitch thing is it to need a vacation to promote things. guy cant go on a talk show or radio show in the morning and wrestle that night in the same city? since when does a movie NEED promotion from every cast member anyway? as far as i remember there are like a bunch of other people in the same movie. Wouldnt being on WWE TV every single week be the PERFECT promotion for a movie? this whole thing makes ZERO sense, for a guy who was supposed to be "back full time on a multi-year deal" In all fairness, Marvel/Disney probably couldn't care less what cities WWE runs in and have very specific markets (including overseas) that they want the prime cast members to advertise in. Especially with this being a "team movie", yes, there are other actors, but it doesn't look good to have one of the main cast members missing.
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Post by HHH316 on May 3, 2014 22:30:14 GMT -5
If this is true, I think its a bitch move by Batista. He's afraid it will make him look weak? Please, get over yourself. We all know in the world of WWE, that if they want the fans to forget about logic, they will completely avoid something like it never happened. He could still lose at Payback & be back at Summerslam like the Bryan match never happened. I doubt he would have tapped to Bryan at mania if that was the case. But if WWE wanted us to forget about who lost the fall in the WM30 match, they could completely avoid it like it never happened.
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Post by hbkowns on May 3, 2014 23:46:32 GMT -5
Screwwww Batista.
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Post by Word™ on May 4, 2014 1:40:36 GMT -5
I doubt he would have tapped to Bryan at mania if that was the case. But if WWE wanted us to forget about who lost the fall in the WM30 match, they could completely avoid it like it never happened. I don't think they want to devalue that match right now.. WrestleMania 30 and Daniel Bryan winning, I think is recognized as a big shift in their company.. They have a new belt, they're debuting a new logo, they have new characters and they're taking a different risk with their booking.. They wouldn't sh*t all over that. It was a pretty big step. It's like this generations Wrestlemania 14.. IMO. New era.
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Post by CrossRhodes on May 4, 2014 2:02:07 GMT -5
why does Batista have to be "away" to "promote" a movie? WWE is in like 20 cities a month...it's not really difficult to promote ANYTHING in the world today, with the technology and sharing capabilities we have...what kind of a baby bitch thing is it to need a vacation to promote things. guy cant go on a talk show or radio show in the morning and wrestle that night in the same city? since when does a movie NEED promotion from every cast member anyway? as far as i remember there are like a bunch of other people in the same movie. Wouldnt being on WWE TV every single week be the PERFECT promotion for a movie? this whole thing makes ZERO sense, for a guy who was supposed to be "back full time on a multi-year deal" Yeah if Stephanie and Triple H can be in New York or The Performance Center on a Monday Morning and still make their Raw commitments nationwide surely so can Batista? Another example Cena did a promotion for his fitness program in Las Vegas on a Tuesday morning, flies cross country to Philadelphia for Smackdown and then flew back to Vegas for the WWE Network announcement! So it can be done, Batista just doesn't wanna do it.
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Post by bababooey on May 4, 2014 2:34:27 GMT -5
This could sound like an ego move by Batista but I agree with him on this. It would be one too many big time losses going into a movie promotion. He lost at Mania and I'm assuming his team will lose tomorrow.
I think it's more the timing of losing to Bryan that Batista turned down.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 4:25:38 GMT -5
I think we can all agree that WWEs plans for Dave fell flat and the forced "improv" has left both parties kinda disinterested. I mean.....no WAY did they bring him back to be a heel. Its better but NOT what WWE wanted.
I did think Batista would be used to put Bryan over one on one though.....that's why I was very surprised he was the one to take the fall @ WM. Surely orton should have taken the fall so Batista could say he wasn't beaten or some such?
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 4:28:29 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 7:23:46 GMT -5
Putting Bryan in a feud with Kane right off the bat was a poor choice. He's only been a champ for a couple weeks and I'm already bored of him. They needed to something new/exciting with him. Let him put on a classic with someone who can give him a truly great first match.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on May 4, 2014 7:28:12 GMT -5
why does Batista have to be "away" to "promote" a movie? WWE is in like 20 cities a month...it's not really difficult to promote ANYTHING in the world today, with the technology and sharing capabilities we have...what kind of a baby bitch thing is it to need a vacation to promote things. guy cant go on a talk show or radio show in the morning and wrestle that night in the same city? since when does a movie NEED promotion from every cast member anyway? as far as i remember there are like a bunch of other people in the same movie. Wouldnt being on WWE TV every single week be the PERFECT promotion for a movie? this whole thing makes ZERO sense, for a guy who was supposed to be "back full time on a multi-year deal" Yeah if Stephanie and Triple H can be in New York or The Performance Center on a Monday Morning and still make their Raw commitments nationwide surely so can Batista? Another example Cena did a promotion for his fitness program in Las Vegas on a Tuesday morning, flies cross country to Philadelphia for Smackdown and then flew back to Vegas for the WWE Network announcement! So it can be done, Batista just doesn't wanna do it. Different here. Firstly Batista will be flying across the whole world, not just the USA. Secondly he will be doing more in each location - attending premieres, taking 30+ interviews etc. Thirdly this has been in his contract from the start - WWE have known this time off was coming (although not so soon) and will have adjusted the financials in the contract accordingly. So they're not paying Batista for this time away, whereas Cena was getting paid a hell of a lot to fly to all these different events. As well as all that, Punk was a full time guy but no one moaned when he took some time off after WM29. I'm sure Batista is really sorry that a potentially $500m+ film is higher in his priorities right now than Raw in a 5000 seater arena in Wyoming. WWE will be just fine without him for a few months and maybe when he comes back he can be a face as they originally intended, so long as he doesn't interact with Bryan or stand in his way.
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Post by Word™ on May 4, 2014 7:34:20 GMT -5
Putting Bryan in a feud with Kane right off the bat was a poor choice. He's only been a champ for a couple weeks and I'm already bored of him. They needed to something new/exciting with him. Let him put on a classic with someone who can give him a truly great first match. That has nothing to do with Daniel Bryan and everything to do with Kane.. No one gives a sh*t about Kane anymore.. I like Kane, but I have no interest in him being in the main event. Hell, I have no interest in him wrestling anymore. If he retired I wouldn't miss him.
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Post by Deleted on May 4, 2014 8:30:52 GMT -5
Putting Bryan in a feud with Kane right off the bat was a poor choice. He's only been a champ for a couple weeks and I'm already bored of him. They needed to something new/exciting with him. Let him put on a classic with someone who can give him a truly great first match. That has nothing to do with Daniel Bryan and everything to do with Kane.. No one gives a sh*t about Kane anymore.. I like Kane, but I have no interest in him being in the main event. Hell, I have no interest in him wrestling anymore. If he retired I wouldn't miss him. I don't want Kane gone or anything. I just don't want to see him in the main event anymore. He's been in and out of it now for what, 16 years?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on May 4, 2014 8:43:48 GMT -5
This could sound like an ego move by Batista but I agree with him on this. It would be one too many big time losses going into a movie promotion. He lost at Mania and I'm assuming his team will lose tomorrow. I think it's more the timing of losing to Bryan that Batista turned down. Bingo. Anyone babycrying over him being an egomaniac must not have seen that he just tapped out to Daniel Bryan last month. Batista shouldn't be spending two years as job boy, he's a top star and he doesn't have an underdog gimmick. He shouldn't ever be taking the fall three months in a row until the tail end of his two years. I'm curious to see where Bryan goes from here though. This feud with Kane isn't tremendous but it's fine and considering all the other top heels are busy, it's the best of a bad lot. I really don't want to see Bryan vs Orton again, after their four million TV and PPV matches in 2013. But with Batista gone, I guess the Evolution vs Shield thing ends tonight, and that only really leaves Bryan to face either Orton or HHH. Or maybe Wyatt.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on May 4, 2014 9:52:53 GMT -5
I think it may still be too soon for Cesaro. Let the Heyman thing get rolling a little longer They should decide if he's a heel or face before they move forward with him. That said, "too soon" has never stopped them before. See: Back, Ry.
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Post by HHH316 on May 4, 2014 16:17:04 GMT -5
But if WWE wanted us to forget about who lost the fall in the WM30 match, they could completely avoid it like it never happened. I don't think they want to devalue that match right now.. WrestleMania 30 and Daniel Bryan winning, I think is recognized as a big shift in their company.. They have a new belt, they're debuting a new logo, they have new characters and they're taking a different risk with their booking.. They wouldn't sh*t all over that. It was a pretty big step. It's like this generations Wrestlemania 14.. IMO. New era. I totally agree. This was the WM14 or WM20 moment. They buried the WM20 moment for obvious reasons. I just don't think that years from now anyone is going to have a stronger memory of this years Payback over WM30. If Batista got beat at Payback, so what? 4, 5, 6 months from then, is it going to be a defining career moment for either guy? No. It would be in the same category as Austin/Corporate Dude Love. My only point is that if Batista won't put him over because he's too small & he's worried about his movie career, its a total copout.
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Post by Word™ on May 4, 2014 18:36:09 GMT -5
I don't think they want to devalue that match right now.. WrestleMania 30 and Daniel Bryan winning, I think is recognized as a big shift in their company.. They have a new belt, they're debuting a new logo, they have new characters and they're taking a different risk with their booking.. They wouldn't sh*t all over that. It was a pretty big step. It's like this generations Wrestlemania 14.. IMO. New era. I totally agree. This was the WM14 or WM20 moment. They buried the WM20 moment for obvious reasons. I just don't think that years from now anyone is going to have a stronger memory of this years Payback over WM30. If Batista got beat at Payback, so what? 4, 5, 6 months from then, is it going to be a defining career moment for either guy? No. It would be in the same category as Austin/Corporate Dude Love. My only point is that if Batista won't put him over because he's too small & he's worried about his movie career, its a total copout. I think Batista is over this.. He's done. I don't think he gives a damn about being in the WWE anymore and while he's away promoting Guardians of the Galaxy I wouldn't be shocked to see him try to get out of his contract.. This was a bust, and he now knows it.
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