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Post by Sleazyness on May 21, 2014 14:18:29 GMT -5
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Post by Epic Z on May 21, 2014 15:19:45 GMT -5
It seem's that losing all that money, have really changed the moral and attitude within management.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 15:22:55 GMT -5
When Vince gets backed into a corner, things get interesting.
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Post by mikey1974 on May 21, 2014 16:24:16 GMT -5
well,let's see:
1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week.
2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince!
3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear.
4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs.
5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative.
6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions.
7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania!
8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year.
...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting.
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Post by BØRNS on May 21, 2014 17:38:32 GMT -5
well,let's see: 1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week. 2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince! 3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear. 4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs. 5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative. 6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions. 7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania! 8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year. ...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting. I think you've hit most of the main points right here. Especially the "yes men" topic. Also, it's important to reflect upon how WWE has been targeting kids for 10 years now and despite what Vince & Co. think, kids are not the target market for an online streaming service. They aren't interested in watching old content. They prefer playing videogames. And besides, parents won't want to pay more monthly subscriptions just to cancel because their children aren't interested in. The fact is, WWE has all but abandoned the adult audience the past several years and now they're surprised that the Network isn't performing as expected. Plus, not offering it internationally at the moment is throwing up two middle fingers to the rest of the world. That's not nice. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 17:43:09 GMT -5
When Vince gets backed into a corner, things get interesting. I agree |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 17:49:37 GMT -5
well,let's see: 1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week. 2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince! 3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear. 4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs. 5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative. 6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions. 7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania!
8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year. ...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting. I've been paying 44.99 for PPV's since i started watching in 05.. And I've had cablevision, iO, Fios..it's all been the same |
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Post by Rob on May 21, 2014 17:58:22 GMT -5
Things will be changing for sure. I dont think they were expecting a $350 million dollar loss like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 18:13:02 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't lead to the return of the "Kiss My Ass Club".
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Post by Colter on May 21, 2014 18:17:49 GMT -5
I hope this doesn't lead to the return of the "Kiss My Swamp Ass Club". There we go. Much better. |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 18:18:11 GMT -5
well,let's see: 1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week. 2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince! 3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear. 4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs. 5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative. 6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions. 7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania! 8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year. ...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting. Excellent post Mikey. I have ZERO to add here man. Well done. |
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Post by WMWanimations on May 21, 2014 18:58:55 GMT -5
well,let's see: 1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week. 2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince! 3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear. 4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs. 5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative. 6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions. 7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania! 8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year. ...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting. Excellent post Mikey. I have ZERO to add here man. Well done. Yup, very well said. |
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Post by RybackV1 on May 21, 2014 19:02:30 GMT -5
Take away my network and I will  in cry How did they loose so much money from the network? I just don't get it. They already owned the library. It's all their own product being aired. I didn't see TV ads for it on any non wwe programming |
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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 19:03:33 GMT -5
well,let's see: 1) a product that has,once again, gotten boring and stale. see John Cena every week. 2) SERIOUSLY overestimating just how popular WWE is today. this isn't 1999 Vince! 3) as Punk rightfully said, Vince surrounds himself with glad-handing "Yes" men who tell him what he wants to hear,whether or not it should be what he NEEDS to hear. 4) going public. this was a mistake all those years ago. cause they're laways going to have investors breathing down their backs. 5) taking too long to create new stars,while continuing to rely on the old standby's . there seems to be a conscious effort to change this now, since Stephanie is gone from creative. 6) Stephanie McMahon as head of creative. it's not an issue right now, but the fallout still continues,as she drove away a massive amount of older,ling-time fans from the current product due to years of inane, favoritism-based decisions. 7) making the prices of PPV's too much. I understand inflation, but we're paying as much for the "ordinary" PPV's as we used to pay for WrestleMania! 8) launching the Network too soon. for whatever reason,Vince had the bug up his ass it just HAD to come out this year. and I understand why they're waiting for the worldwide rollout til next year, because they need to continue work on it so the Network can handle that load. they should've just waited to launch the whole thing worldwide til next year. ...almost 12 years after WWE's last real boon period,they're still waiting for the next one to begin. and waiting. and waiting. and waiting. Excellent post Mikey. I have ZERO to add here man. Well done. I would only disagree with 1 and that's the ppv price. I personally feel 10 dollars for a ppv plus that content is a great deal espescially since we pay so much for elites. |
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Post by JCF on May 21, 2014 19:31:29 GMT -5
The product has little to no "edge" whatsoever. I'm bored every Monday watching Raw and thankfully have the network I can watch old stuff on. We need change.
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Post by mikey1974 on May 22, 2014 3:34:31 GMT -5
Excellent post Mikey. I have ZERO to add here man. Well done. I would only disagree with 1 and that's the ppv price. I personally feel 10 dollars for a ppv plus that content is a great deal espescially since we pay so much for elites. I agree. $10 is a great price! I meant buying PPV's on cable, or satellite. the price has been climbing over the years to where they're now around the $50 mark, and Mania is well over $60. that definitely drove away a lot of customers. |
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Post by Prophet of Ash on May 22, 2014 3:50:37 GMT -5
The product has little to no "edge" whatsoever. I'm bored every Monday watching Raw and thankfully have the network I can watch old stuff on. We need change.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 5:35:10 GMT -5
Take away my network and I will in cry How did they loose so much money from the network? I just don't get it. They already owned the library. It's all their own product being aired. I didn't see TV ads for it on any non wwe programming It takes a crapton of money to get something like the network off the ground. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 22, 2014 7:01:18 GMT -5
The main thing is that I just don't want to lose the Network.
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Post by marino13 on May 22, 2014 7:47:33 GMT -5
Few thoughts....
I'm sure they expected some finical woes from the WWE network. Once it goes global I'm sure things will balance out.
Oddly enough I think the product is better now than it was a few years ago. I prefer my wrestling without Million Dollar give-aways, fake celebrities, and anonymous General Managers.
Right now I think the in-ring product now is damn near perfect. I just think that they need to get their creative juices flowing. Better story-lines, better seeded feuds, and better use of talent.
I think a lil' shake up can never be a horrible thing. Keeps thing fresh.
Okay I'm done. Excuse me if this sounds like gibberish, I just woke up.
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