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Post by Wato Stan Account on May 30, 2014 21:46:05 GMT -5
I’ve always thought, “Pro-wrestling is not supposed to choose their viewers”. This is what I’ve learned through my experience from Lucha Libre in Mexico. From children to the elderly of all ages can enjoy and get excited when it comes to Lucha. The masked wreslters high in the air, the excited old woman cursing at Rudos (heels), and children running around the venue cheer and applaud brightening their eyes for the climax of the match. “Pro-wrestling is mass entertainment. This is the original scenery of wrestling.” We’re not some dining run by an opinionated old man, and should never be that way. We shouldn’t put our product in the audience’s face and rant, “This is how we do it! And you should appreciate it!” We should make it enjoyable for everyone. -Hiroshi Tanahashi So your idea it's only for adults. Also yes, someone could. But Vince has to be willing to sell.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:04:20 GMT -5
Lol. I can't believe I read that. Lol.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 30, 2014 22:08:17 GMT -5
I know the WWE is not for sale but it would be groundbreaking otherwise. However since it not for sale, couldn't someone rich build their own wrestling company from the ground up? How come in the past we have WCW, ECW, and WWF, but now we only have TNA and WWE? If someone bought TNA, I would be happy as well as TNA can't seem to get up in ratings. Couldn't someone make up a wrestling brand like say NWC (Next Wrestling Championship) or something. Someone could make their own promotion. But it wouldn't compete with the WWE. Besides there are tons of other wrestling promotions besides WWE and TNA.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:15:00 GMT -5
Speak for yourself.
WWE has and always will offer a little something for everyone.
Whether it's comedy, seriousness, tag teams, Divas, highfliers, technical, brawling or anything else to appeal to men, women or children of all ages.
You are not expected to like 100% of what they offer. That's how they reach a larger fanbase.
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Post by Justin on May 30, 2014 22:15:34 GMT -5
I know the WWE is not for sale but it would be groundbreaking otherwise. However since it not for sale, couldn't someone rich build their own wrestling company from the ground up? How come in the past we have WCW, ECW, and WWF, but now we only have TNA and WWE? If someone bought TNA, I would be happy as well as TNA can't seem to get up in ratings. Couldn't someone make up a wrestling brand like say NWC (Next Wrestling Championship) or something. There are a ton of good Indy promotions on iPPV and DVD. PWG is awesome, PWS is my favorite. Then you have ROH,CZW,DGUSA/Evolve, Chikara Then you have NJPW which is the best wrestling in the world Also GFW is launching which promises big things
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:19:13 GMT -5
Speak for yourself. WWE has and always will offer a little something for everyone. Whether it's comedy, seriousness, tag teams, Divas, highfliers, technical, brawling or anything else to appeal to men, women or children of all ages. You are not expected to like 100% of what they offer. That's how they reach a larger fanbase. It doesn't offer a single thing for adults.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:24:39 GMT -5
Speak for yourself. WWE has and always will offer a little something for everyone. Whether it's comedy, seriousness, tag teams, Divas, highfliers, technical, brawling or anything else to appeal to men, women or children of all ages. You are not expected to like 100% of what they offer. That's how they reach a larger fanbase. It doesn't offer a single thing for adults. Yes, it does. There seems to be many people on here who can find at least one thing that they like from WWE and they are not kids. I'm 38 and I enjoy WWE. Not all of it, but enough that I don't feel the need to complain about what I don't like.
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Post by [MJH] on May 30, 2014 22:26:39 GMT -5
I mean who is really going to spend so much money to buy WWE then take such a creative risk on the small chance it might give them more money. Getting WWE to no longer be PG has nothing to do with owner it's purely an audience thing, if there was truly a market and outcry for non PG wrestling then WWE would head in that direction, but they're not going to cater to the minority because they're "true" wrestling fans, they're going to do what keeps them in business.
You want WWE to change then don't watch it and go watch some other wrestling if that becomes popular then WWE is forced to react but right now they play it safe and stay on the good side of the media whilst catering to what's in demand.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:29:36 GMT -5
It doesn't offer a single thing for adults. Yes, it does. There seems to be many people on here who can find at least one thing that they like from WWE and they are not kids. I'm 38 and I enjoy WWE. Not all of it, but enough that I don't feel the need to complain about what I don't like. If your 38, then I would assume you didn't first started to watch wrestling during the Attitude Era am I right? You watch the PG era Hogan and Savage I would presume? That not the case for me, I grew up watching the Attitude Era wrestling and that is what I associated wrestling with, and all I known. I wouldn't have bother watching wrestling in the 80's though.
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Post by Wato Stan Account on May 30, 2014 22:34:03 GMT -5
Yes, it does. There seems to be many people on here who can find at least one thing that they like from WWE and they are not kids. I'm 38 and I enjoy WWE. Not all of it, but enough that I don't feel the need to complain about what I don't like. If your 38, then I would assume you didn't first started to watch wrestling during the Attitude Era am I right? You watch the PG era Hogan and Savage I would presume? That not the case for me, I grew up watching the Attitude Era wrestling and that is what I associated wrestling with, and all I known. I wouldn't have bother watching wrestling in the 80's though. If you hate it, don't watch it. Watch TNA if you want to watch wrestling with weird storylines that thinks its pushing the boundaries. Stop sitting in the past, it's ing dull.
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Post by Colter on May 30, 2014 22:38:03 GMT -5
I know the WWE is not for sale but it would be groundbreaking otherwise. However since it not for sale, couldn't someone rich build their own wrestling company from the ground up? How come in the past we have WCW, ECW, and WWF, but now we only have TNA and WWE? If someone bought TNA, I would be happy as well as TNA can't seem to get up in ratings. Couldn't someone make up a wrestling brand like say NWC (Next Wrestling Championship) or something. Jeff Jarrett called. And there isn't just two wrestling companies known to man today. There are literally hundreds of indy promotions, so you might want to just watch them instead of bitch about how "WWE offers nothing for adults" (which it does, but ok). Times have changed, dude. We get that the current product isn't exactly your cup of tea, but why announce it in practically every post?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:41:06 GMT -5
I know the WWE is not for sale but it would be groundbreaking otherwise. However since it not for sale, couldn't someone rich build their own wrestling company from the ground up? How come in the past we have WCW, ECW, and WWF, but now we only have TNA and WWE? If someone bought TNA, I would be happy as well as TNA can't seem to get up in ratings. Couldn't someone make up a wrestling brand like say NWC (Next Wrestling Championship) or something. Jeff Jarrett called. And there isn't just two wrestling companies known to man today. There are literally hundreds of indy promotions, so you might want to just watch them instead of bitch about how "WWE offers nothing for adults" (which it does, but ok). Times have changed, dude. We get that the current product isn't exactly your cup of tea, but why announce it in practically every post? Indy promotions don't count, it isn't Mainstream and it won't give the WWE a run for their money, and without competition the WWE is its own monopoly.
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Post by Colter on May 30, 2014 22:42:57 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett called. And there isn't just two wrestling companies known to man today. There are literally hundreds of indy promotions, so you might want to just watch them instead of bitch about how "WWE offers nothing for adults" (which it does, but ok). Times have changed, dude. We get that the current product isn't exactly your cup of tea, but why announce it in practically every post? Indy promotions don't count, it isn't Mainstream and it won't give the WWE a run for their money, and without competition the WWE is its own monopoly.
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Post by King Silva on May 30, 2014 22:45:14 GMT -5
It would never happen so good luck.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 22:55:56 GMT -5
Yes, it does. There seems to be many people on here who can find at least one thing that they like from WWE and they are not kids. I'm 38 and I enjoy WWE. Not all of it, but enough that I don't feel the need to complain about what I don't like. If your 38, then I would assume you didn't first started to watch wrestling during the Attitude Era am I right? You watch the PG era Hogan and Savage I would presume? That not the case for me, I grew up watching the Attitude Era wrestling and that is what I associated wrestling with, and all I known. I wouldn't have bother watching wrestling in the 80's though. I started watching around WrestleMania IV and have watched through every era. I enjoyed many things about the Attitude era. Every era has had good and bad. I enjoyed the Federation era, New Generation, Attitude, Ruthless Aggression and PG. I have enjoyed some more than others. Doesn't make me more or less of a fan than anyone else. I started watching as a kid watching Hogan and was able to keep watching all these years through it all. That's just me. Eveyone is different. You can't lump everyone in one group based on eras. If it causes you this much distress then you maybe should move on and stop torturing yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 23:03:08 GMT -5
Do you work for TNA?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on May 30, 2014 23:11:01 GMT -5
Yes, it does. There seems to be many people on here who can find at least one thing that they like from WWE and they are not kids. I'm 38 and I enjoy WWE. Not all of it, but enough that I don't feel the need to complain about what I don't like. If your 38, then I would assume you didn't first started to watch wrestling during the Attitude Era am I right? You watch the PG era Hogan and Savage I would presume? That not the case for me, I grew up watching the Attitude Era wrestling and that is what I associated wrestling with, and all I known. I wouldn't have bother watching wrestling in the 80's though. I grew up on the Attitude Era and it was a ton of fun but it's not the be all end all of pro wrestling. I liked that everyone on the roster had a story and something to do but there was a LOT of crap during that time. You're SO close minded when it comes to wrestling nowadays that it's absurd. Watching great wars like the Shield vs the Wyatts isn't for adults because there's no blood? Daniel Bryan's battle against authority sucks because he didn't pour cement into Triple H's car? You won't give someone like Cesaro the time of day because he's not in a dumb segment where his pee pee gets choppy choppy? Sami Zayn is a waste because he's from the PG era and didn't impregnate Mae Young with a hand. Take off those shades.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2014 23:23:09 GMT -5
Oh, it's a viet thread.
No wonder...
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Post by CM Hardy on May 30, 2014 23:33:42 GMT -5
Oh God... I'm sorry, but you're threads are so cringe worthy, I kind of feel like blocking you from now on.
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Post by Falconsinclair on May 30, 2014 23:41:42 GMT -5
While this era isn't the greatest when it comes to giving more guys and gals something to do on every show. I am starting to see a change in things for the better. Right now you have all but the Tag Team Championship booked in an angle where the belts on the line (yes Bryan is injured and not technically defending the belt it is still a focal point)
You also have Cena/Uso's vs the Wyatt's and Evolution vs the Shield, and for better or worse you have Honswoggle & 3MB vs El Torito & Los Matadores. Not to mention the Adam Rose/Zeb & Swagger angle. Finally you have the slow meltdown of Cody Rhodes and the "Disgruntled" Damian Sandow.
That right there is at least a dozen guys and gals with something going on. Would I like it to be more, of course, but as I said things are starting turn around (at least in my eyes) when it comes to how the booking is being handled. Now mind you going back to when I first started watching, which for the record was around the first WrestleMania, not everyone had something going on. Hell, heading into the first WrestleMania the only matches that had angles going on leading into the show was Andre & Studd and the Main Event. Sure the WWE didn't have the television presence they have today or during the Attitude Era, they were still able to build a solid show based around those two angles.
I would rather have the WWE take there time and slowly book the undercard instead of tossing crap up against he wall and hoping it sticks, which is what they did during the Attitude Era. Anyone remember Big Boss Man "feeding" Pepper to Al Snow? How about Val Venis versus the "Yakuza"? What about the whole Test angle with the McMahon's? That angle failed so bad they put Triple H into it in hopes of saving it.
Basically what I am getting at is the the all era's in the history of the WWE had good with the bad. I just hope that the WWE keeps on it's current path and truly starts to utilize all the Television time that they have.
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