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Post by RybackV1 on Jun 16, 2014 15:00:11 GMT -5
Some of these manufactured stories are so ridiculous. Any schmuck could make that one up. Just as they have been doing for years.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 16, 2014 15:00:54 GMT -5
Lets be honest here, for the amount of times Ive seen Ziggler shoot from the hip about how he should be pushed more in media interviews, that's what has probably stalled his career at this point. I read a rumor a ways back that said he was somewhat of a pain to deal with backstage. Add it all up, the higher ups probably got tired of dealing with it. Dolph should be main eventing but I see him probably going the route of the Drew McIntyres and John Morrisons. Being in the doghouse nowadays isnt like it was 5-10 years ago. Triple H has said he was buried and embarassed on TV for the kliq incident in 1996 for almost a year. But then he got shot right back into the King of the Ring Crown and DX. Nowadays if you're in the doghouse with the higher ups it seems like you're just forgotten about or left to fend for yourself on superstars/main event for the rest of your career until they decide to do away with you. For further reference see - Alex Riley, Ryback, Drew McIntyre, Kofi Kingston, etc.. Ziggler is being assertive, though. You would think someone working there would admire that. Hell, Punk shot from the hip on RAW and was elevated overnight. But yeah, you're right. Once you hit a slump you sure do stay there for awhile...if not forever. Meh, time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 15:07:08 GMT -5
Well, in that case, please don't ever put him in the ring with Goldberg.
Goldberg will kill him just like he killed Bret Hart.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jun 16, 2014 15:16:18 GMT -5
Dolph Ziggler has gone as far as he could.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 15:18:55 GMT -5
Hell, Punk shot from the hip on RAW and was elevated overnight. There's a bit of a difference between someone going on a media interview and bitching about his place in the company, and WWE telling someone to cut a promo bitching about his place in the company.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 16, 2014 15:27:22 GMT -5
Hell, Punk shot from the hip on RAW and was elevated overnight. There's a bit of a difference between someone going on a media interview and bitching about his place in the company, and WWE telling someone to cut a promo bitching about his place in the company. Well, someone needs to give Ziggler a mic and have him go at it out there then.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jun 16, 2014 15:49:56 GMT -5
I don't buy this. It makes no sense to blame Ziggler for his concussions. The main reason is that he's very outspoken, THAT'S a report that makes sense.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Jun 16, 2014 16:16:27 GMT -5
I don't want to start a flame war so I won't say anything about why I'd say Ziggler isn't being used because I'm sure it will be misconstrued, but if this is true, I really hope they don't use this as an excuse to not utilize Bryan upon his return.
And more importantly, friggin' Cena gets hurt more than anybody but he keeps working through it. Shouldn't hold everyone else in the company to his standard.
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Post by Lk™ on Jun 16, 2014 16:46:15 GMT -5
he'll be in new japan in no time
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 17:02:37 GMT -5
I call bs.
Rey got multiple pushes and he's very injury prone.
Ziggler is a very talented guy who most crowds get behind.
I honestly think he's the guy that Vince "sees no money in."
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 17:07:30 GMT -5
OMG DO YOU GUYS NOT WATCH WWE PROGRAMMING? ?? Triple H said love on Miz TV WHY ZIGGLER AND MIZ WILL NEVER BE PUSHED. & I QUOTE! "ZIGGLER YOU JUST AREN'T BIG ENOUGH" - Triple H
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Jun 16, 2014 17:13:34 GMT -5
A couple weeks ago we had a thread about Ziggler being held back and someone pointed out that Cena's promo on the NYE 2012 Raw sounded awfully like he was shooting on Ziggler's backstage antics. That's why he's been devalued--because he can't keep his mouth shut backstage.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 17:17:15 GMT -5
OMG DO YOU GUYS NOT WATCH WWE PROGRAMMING? ?? Triple H said love on Miz TV WHY ZIGGLER AND MIZ WILL NEVER BE PUSHED. & I QUOTE! "ZIGGLER YOU JUST AREN'T BIG ENOUGH" - Triple H If this isn't sarcasm...... See example: Daniel Bryan
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Post by rustyy on Jun 16, 2014 17:31:55 GMT -5
There's a bit of a difference between someone going on a media interview and bitching about his place in the company, and WWE telling someone to cut a promo bitching about his place in the company. Well, someone needs to give Ziggler a mic and have him go at it out there then. He can't, he doesn't have mic skills.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Jun 16, 2014 17:56:24 GMT -5
Ziggler has only had two concussions, one from Swagger after he kicked the crapout of him, and the other from Ryback's meathook clothesline. The one he got from Ryback he came back from in just 20 days too. People backstage probably just lost interest in Ziggler which is sad.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jun 16, 2014 18:03:16 GMT -5
He's a good hand.
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Jun 16, 2014 18:13:17 GMT -5
Well, someone needs to give Ziggler a mic and have him go at it out there then. He can't, he doesn't have mic skills. Granted, he's no Punk, but he gets by. Far worse talkers out there.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2014 18:24:18 GMT -5
I have to say.......I'm not really buying that to be honest.
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Post by JC Motors on Jun 16, 2014 19:02:32 GMT -5
Just release them both already
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Post by King Silva on Jun 16, 2014 21:41:45 GMT -5
BS reason..
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