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Post by Gazza on Jul 1, 2014 12:56:59 GMT -5
Not even close.... I swear people on here need to learn wrestling terms. Um, yeah. Paige lost to a roll up pin. She lost to Naomi. She was even made to look weak during her entire title run. She was a transitional champion. The writers had NO idea what to do with her. Hell, she even had a feud with Cameron. I can say that she's not 100% buried, but she deserved much better than to lose to a roll up pin. Her being 21 doesn't mean anything. I'll be curious to see where this feud goes into Battleground. AJ and Paige can very well be the next Trish and Lita. In what way is that buried? She won most of her matches but that's getting buried? I'm confused to how you think that, and losing to a roll up means she was buried. The fact she lost to a roll up is better for her and is far from buried, quite the opposite infact.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 13:01:58 GMT -5
Um, yeah. Paige lost to a roll up pin. She lost to Naomi. She was even made to look weak during her entire title run. She was a transitional champion. The writers had NO idea what to do with her. Hell, she even had a feud with Cameron. I can say that she's not 100% buried, but she deserved much better than to lose to a roll up pin. Her being 21 doesn't mean anything. I'll be curious to see where this feud goes into Battleground. AJ and Paige can very well be the next Trish and Lita. In what way is that buried? She won most of her matches but that's getting buried? I'm confused to how you think that, and losing to a roll up means she was buried. The fact she lost to a roll up is better for her and is far from buried, quite the opposite infact. I know right, I'm not happy she lost but I wouldn't say buried. She's lost what 3 matches on the main roster? It'll be interesting to see her as a heel though, hot chicks are way hotter when they're bad girls.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jul 1, 2014 13:28:32 GMT -5
The Kevstaaa, one of the reasons why Natalya vs. Charlotte from Take Over was good was because Natalya is more of a well rounded performer. Something AJ Lee is clearly not. Go back to when Paige defeated AJ Lee the night after WrestleMania XXX. The poor selling on the Paige Turner looked sloppy. Then again, AJ Lee is a very sloppy worker. Like Natalya, Paige is another well rounded performer. Just to prove how good Paige really is, she had a very good match with Natalya on NXT last year. When somebody can do move after move and look fluid, that is one of the biggest hurdles for anybody. When Paige was given the Divas Championship, it re-ignited my interest for women's wrestling on RAW & SmackDown. We finally saw a woman who has busted her ass to make it to the WWE. After watching that documentary that featured Paige and the rest of her family, my respect level for Paige increased. Now that AJ Lee is champion again, my interest for the women's division is back to the way it was prior to WrestleMania XXX. I hope once AJ loses the belt, she goes back home to Phil Brooks, makes babies, and is never mentioned again.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 1, 2014 13:31:50 GMT -5
The Kevstaaa, one of the reasons why Natalya vs. Charlotte from Take Over was good was because Natalya is more of a well rounded performer. Something AJ Lee is clearly not. Go back to when Paige defeated AJ Lee the night after WrestleMania XXX. The poor selling on the Paige Turner looked sloppy. Then again, AJ Lee is a very sloppy worker. Like Natalya, Paige is another well rounded performer. Just to prove how good Paige really is, she had a very good match with Natalya on NXT last year. When somebody can do move after move and look fluid, that is one of the biggest hurdles for anybody. When Paige was given the Divas Championship, it re-ignited my interest for women's wrestling on RAW & SmackDown. We finally saw a woman who has busted her ass to make it to the WWE. After watching that documentary that featured Paige and the rest of her family, my respect level for Paige increased. Now that AJ Lee is champion again, my interest for the women's division is back to the way it was prior to WrestleMania XXX. I hope once AJ loses the belt, she goes back home to Phil Brooks, makes babies, and is never mentioned again. Don't get me wrong, I'm a big Paige fan. I think Natalya is rather overrated but she is fluid and I happen to feel that AJ Lee is fluid in the ring and not sloppy. Yea, she sold the Paige Turner wrong, but it happens. I guess we agree to disagree.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Jul 1, 2014 13:46:03 GMT -5
The Kevstaaa, one of the reasons why Natalya vs. Charlotte from Take Over was good was because Natalya is more of a well rounded performer. Something AJ Lee is clearly not. Go back to when Paige defeated AJ Lee the night after WrestleMania XXX. The poor selling on the Paige Turner looked sloppy. Then again, AJ Lee is a very sloppy worker. Like Natalya, Paige is another well rounded performer. Just to prove how good Paige really is, she had a very good match with Natalya on NXT last year. When somebody can do move after move and look fluid, that is one of the biggest hurdles for anybody. When Paige was given the Divas Championship, it re-ignited my interest for women's wrestling on RAW & SmackDown. We finally saw a woman who has busted her ass to make it to the WWE. After watching that documentary that featured Paige and the rest of her family, my respect level for Paige increased. Now that AJ Lee is champion again, my interest for the women's division is back to the way it was prior to WrestleMania XXX. I hope once AJ loses the belt, she goes back home to Phil Brooks, makes babies, and is never mentioned again. You must watch the product a lot I see... You call AJ Lee sloppy? AJ is the best thing to happen to the divas division in years, the total package!And saying that Paige is better in ring worker just tells me you haven't watched her matches recently, because since being called up she hasn't done anything worth watching that doesn't have AJ in the mix...
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jul 1, 2014 13:49:33 GMT -5
The Kevstaaa, AJ Lee is far, far from fluid in the ring. As for Natalya being overrated, she happens to be one of the most underutilized performers the WWE has on their payroll. Another diva (even though she hates that term) who became somebody was Trish Stratus. On her off days, she would further her training and went to the right people for guidance. I remember some of the hate Trish received early on but over time, her hard work and dedication paid off. Had Kaitlyn modeled herself like Trish and went down a similar road, then both her and AJ Lee could have had a mind blowing match at Payback 2013. If you want to define the term overrated, high up on that list is AJ Lee, not Natalya. To some, AJ Lee is deeded as the savior of the women's division when in reality nobody is. Sad the WWE has gone back to status-quo after having an optimistic future post-WrestleMania XXX. I hope you do realize I have been watching wrestling long before you were born AJ F'n Brooks. I can gauge that AJ Lee is in fact a very sloppy performer. Give me women like Sherri Martel, Bull Nakano and Manami Toyota, and even Aja Kong over AJ Lee. Go and watch Aja Kong vs. Manami Toyota from All Jpan from November 1994. Those two women worked hard, had a fluid style, and had a damn good match. To prove how good it was, Dave Meltzer gave it five stars.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 14:04:36 GMT -5
First of all, Paige killed it on the mic last night.
It'll all be alright because in the end because Paige will out wrestle AJ again just like she did last tonight and will recapture the gold in no time.
Oh well, on the bright side now Paige will unleash her heel side just like we all wanted and will get some serious heat when she makes AJ tap to the PTO.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 1, 2014 14:12:33 GMT -5
AJ Lee is the biggest over rated diva ever in the history of the WWE.
Only reason why she comes off so great, is cause the talent pool wasn't that deep for divas with ability like it was back in 2000 - 2006.
AJ may have had the longest Diva's title reign ever, only because the WWE was more concerned with concentrating on Total Divas and making all those women stars - not just in wrestling but on a Hollywood scale thanks to E! Network - and so they kind of just said "uh... keep the belt on AJ I guess, not like anyone cares anyhow."
I would like to drink the koolaid these AJ Lee fans drink, cause then maybe I would understand why these people think she's so great when in fact... she's not!
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 1, 2014 14:15:29 GMT -5
The Kevstaaa, AJ Lee is far, far from fluid in the ring. As for Natalya being overrated, she happens to be one of the most underutilized performers the WWE has on their payroll. Another diva (even though she hates that term) who became somebody was Trish Stratus. On her off days, she would further her training and went to the right people for guidance. I remember some of the hate Trish received early on but over time, her hard work and dedication paid off. Had Kaitlyn modeled herself like Trish and went down a similar road, then both her and AJ Lee could have had a mind blowing match at Payback 2013. If you want to define the term overrated, high up on that list is AJ Lee, not Natalya. To some, AJ Lee is deeded as the savior of the women's division when in reality nobody is. Sad the WWE has gone back to status-quo after having an optimistic future post-WrestleMania XXX. I hope you do realize I have been watching wrestling long before you were born AJ F'n Brooks. I can gauge that AJ Lee is in fact a very sloppy performer. Give me women like Sherri Martel, Bull Nakano and Manami Toyota, and even Aja Kong over AJ Lee. Go and watch Aja Kong vs. Manami Toyota from All Jpan from November 1994. Those two women worked hard, had a fluid style, and had a damn good match. To prove how good it was, Dave Meltzer gave it five stars. I don't think she's sloppy. I'll agree that AJ Lee is considered better than she is because of the lackluster division but I still think she's good. I have seen a lot of Bull Nakano and Aja Kong, plus joshi and SHIMMER. I like AJ Lee but I agree that she is partially overrated.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 14:19:43 GMT -5
I think Paige is VERY good in the ring. I assume she has been calling the past several matches she's been in and has done a great job. Unfortunately for her, the division is a joke and she has little to work with.
Natalya is easily the best though. By far. It's not even close. She carried Flair's inexperienced daughter through one of the better divas matches I've seen in a long time.
AJ is ok. Not bad, not great. Ok.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jul 1, 2014 14:41:09 GMT -5
First of all, Paige killed it on the mic last night. It'll all be alright because in the end because Paige will out wrestle AJ again just like she did last tonight and will recapture the gold in no time. Oh well, on the bright side now Paige will unleash her heel side just like we all wanted and will get some serious heat when she makes AJ tap to the PTO. The day that happens, I'll take women's wrestling serious again in the WWE. AJ Lee is the biggest over rated diva ever in the history of the WWE. Only reason why she comes off so great, is cause the talent pool wasn't that deep for divas with ability like it was back in 2000 - 2006. AJ may have had the longest Diva's title reign ever, only because the WWE was more concerned with concentrating on Total Divas and making all those women stars - not just in wrestling but on a Hollywood scale thanks to E! Network - and so they kind of just said "uh... keep the belt on AJ I guess, not like anyone cares anyhow." I would like to drink the koolaid these AJ Lee fans drink, cause then maybe I would understand why these people think she's so great when in fact... she's not! One of the main factors why people love AJ Lee is because she is one of those types of women you'll see next door and you'll bang in high school. Also to aid her is she is Latina (Hispanic women are a turn off for me) and you know how man people love Latin women (Bella's, Eva Marie, JoJo, AJ Lee, Eve Torres, and Victoria). I used to go to school with tons of Puerto Rican women so I know how they are like. AJ Lee's best work is not in the ring. Her best work is jogging with Phil Brooks, making pancakes in the kitchen, and becoming a factory for straight edge babies. Let's be real here, Hispanic women love having babies.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 14:44:49 GMT -5
AJ Lee is the biggest over rated diva ever in the history of the WWE. Only reason why she comes off so great, is cause the talent pool wasn't that deep for divas with ability like it was back in 2000 - 2006. AJ may have had the longest Diva's title reign ever, only because the WWE was more concerned with concentrating on Total Divas and making all those women stars - not just in wrestling but on a Hollywood scale thanks to E! Network - and so they kind of just said "uh... keep the belt on AJ I guess, not like anyone cares anyhow." I would like to drink the koolaid these AJ Lee fans drink, cause then maybe I would understand why these people think she's so great when in fact... she's not! I wouldn't go that far, but she is indeed a diamond in a turd. Still, glad she is the champion compared to Paige, THAT is someone I don't see the hype in.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 1, 2014 15:08:34 GMT -5
AJ Lee is the biggest over rated diva ever in the history of the WWE. Only reason why she comes off so great, is cause the talent pool wasn't that deep for divas with ability like it was back in 2000 - 2006. AJ may have had the longest Diva's title reign ever, only because the WWE was more concerned with concentrating on Total Divas and making all those women stars - not just in wrestling but on a Hollywood scale thanks to E! Network - and so they kind of just said "uh... keep the belt on AJ I guess, not like anyone cares anyhow." I would like to drink the koolaid these AJ Lee fans drink, cause then maybe I would understand why these people think she's so great when in fact... she's not! I wouldn't go that far, but she is indeed a diamond in a turd. Still, glad she is the champion compared to Paige, THAT is someone I don't see the hype in. Well it certainly doesn't help that WWE completely took Paige's character and personality away.
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Post by Mox on Jul 1, 2014 15:34:00 GMT -5
I hate AJ Lee. HATE.
Overrated is a grand understatement.
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Post by jessem52 on Jul 1, 2014 15:57:30 GMT -5
It made me realise whatever AJ does at least 9 people will say "Punk?" or assume WWE is doing it for him, not the top diva there. It's ridiculous to blame punk in all this. But hey, this should lead to an awesome feud, and some great matches.
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Post by BrIaNMeRcY on Jul 1, 2014 16:08:04 GMT -5
It made me realise whatever AJ does at least 9 people will say "Punk?" or assume WWE is doing it for him, not the top diva there. It's ridiculous to blame punk in all this. But hey, this should lead to an awesome feud, and some great matches. If AJ Lee wasn't sloppy in the ring, then a series of matches with her and Paige would be worth seeing. Since she is sloppy in the ring, those matches weren't be so great against Paige. If there is one thing I took from RAW last night is how much more of a woman Paige is to AJ Lee. Like Irish women, British women have class. Thankfully, Puerto Rican women disgust the hell out of me.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Jul 1, 2014 16:38:17 GMT -5
Paige vs. Natalya would have been the match to have seen! It would be like Bret vs. Dynamite... only in diva form. Nattie is such a hard hitting diva, and so good. I know we haven't even seen half of what she could do in the ring. And Paige has the most wickedness headbutts for a diva that I have ever seen!
But AJ Lee is not good. I would like to know what makes her good. I just feel that a lot of internet fans like her cause of A: she is with CM Punk, B: she likes nerdy things at times like comics, and C: cause she's some what attractive.
I would take Summer Rae over AJ Lee for looks and wrestling ability.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Jul 1, 2014 17:04:05 GMT -5
Ok, the moderators need to close this thread. I mean there are some ridiculous people in here.I mean calling AJ overrated when she is the best in years... and Paige and Natalya good workers when they don't do sh** comparing to AJ is just ridiculous.
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Post by sitruC on Jul 1, 2014 17:12:45 GMT -5
It made me realise whatever AJ does at least 9 people will say "Punk?" or assume WWE is doing it for him, not the top diva there. It's ridiculous to blame punk in all this. But hey, this should lead to an awesome feud, and some great matches. Its the people who think it is cool to chant his name who are to blame, but yeah matches should be top!
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