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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 15:37:53 GMT -5
No, it's not the end of the discussion. The only indy wrestling I watch is Devitt matches and TNA sometimes (<That was a joke for those who don't get sarcasm). And I still hate Reigns. Team sourpuss for life!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 15:40:08 GMT -5
I agree with this. He's a new main-event badass face. Until he starts cracking lame jokes like face Punk and Cena, he's fine by me. It's not like they're shoving Mojo Rawley down our throats. Yet. He's different but that doesn't make him good. I'm just expecting him to turn into Cena in the next 1-2 years. Please God just let them release Mojo, I'll gladly take Reigns over him, he is the definition of terrible. Correct. Being good makes him good. He's good. Nowhere near great yet. But he's good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 15:43:09 GMT -5
What's wrong for liking our favorites? Nothing? Not quite the end of discussion. There's this one too: People don't like the one they're gonna push. Obviously. REBELS. THE MAN CAN'T HOLD EM DOWN. Between those two things, end of discussion. It seems to be a problem if we can't prefer the other two over Reigns. I'm not trying to provoke an argument...but that to me says "You'll like Reigns, over the other two or you're a close minded fool." Now that wasn't said, but it's been implied that if you don't agree with what WWE is doing, you're wrong. I don't really know if there is a right or wrong answer. All I know, is that the other two are some of my most favorite wrestlers in almost 10 years. I want them to excel. I want them to do very good and have long, illustrious careers in WWE. So yes, I want Dean and Seth pushed over Reigns. That doesn't make me wrong and that doesn't make you wrong if you disagree. They are just some of my favorites.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 4, 2014 16:03:04 GMT -5
It seems to be a problem if we can't prefer the other two over Reigns. I never said anything about preferring anyone? Unless you're talking generally rather than to me?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:09:13 GMT -5
It seems to be a problem if we can't prefer the other two over Reigns. I never said anything about preferring anyone? Unless you're talking generally rather than to me? Just the general people in the topic really, you were just a catalyst lol.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:13:59 GMT -5
But...WWE will go with the majority(fans in attendance, merch sales, executive opinions) and not a minority(a few opinions off of wfigs).
And the majority says that Reigns is over and they like him
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:19:33 GMT -5
But...WWE will go with the majority(fans in attendance, merch sales, executive opinions) and not a minority(a few opinions off of wfigs). And the majority says that Reigns is over and they like him This is the part where we just sit back and see what happens really. I'm excited for the future. Has that 2002ish feel to it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:25:50 GMT -5
But...WWE will go with the majority(fans in attendance, merch sales, executive opinions) and not a minority(a few opinions off of wfigs). And the majority says that Reigns is over and they like him This is the part where we just sit back and see what happens really. I'm excited for the future. Has that 2002ish feel to it. It does. It makes me think back to a few years ago when alot of folks were running around going crazy talking about build new stars! Patience is truly a virtue
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 4, 2014 16:35:59 GMT -5
This is the part where we just sit back and see what happens really. I'm excited for the future. Has that 2002ish feel to it. 1997ish too. Injuries and guys leaving has really put the three Shield guys and Bray Wyatt all on the verge of rising to that top level for good.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:39:57 GMT -5
This is the part where we just sit back and see what happens really. I'm excited for the future. Has that 2002ish feel to it. 1997ish too. Injuries and guys leaving has really put the three Shield guys and Bray Wyatt all on the verge of rising to that top level for good. Damn I really wish Bray was the next designated "top guy"
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jul 4, 2014 16:40:31 GMT -5
I am HUGE on Roman Reigns. I think this guy is the future of WWE. He is somewhat of a modern day Goldberg.
That being said, I feel that WWE doesnt fully trust Reigns. He is HIGHLY protected in matches. In tag matches, we see him get the hot tag. And in singles matches, they dont last long and generally turn into some sort of brawl. Either Reigns himself isnt fully capable to put on an entertaining match at this point OR WWE doesnt have the confidence in him to believe he can. This is concerning. For guy who just main evented MITB, is considered the future, is prominently featured, etc.....he needs to be able to actually go inside the ring and put on a match. Even Cena, who is ridiculed to no end, for his lack of evolving and putting on entertaining matches....is still capable to perform. I would need to see an actual house show singles match to have better insight on his ability.
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 4, 2014 16:43:11 GMT -5
My single sentence in my entire point that seems to be getting quoted, I'll still stand by. A LOT of the heat Reigns catches is because he's not as cool as (whoever the hell Ambrose, and Rollins were, pre-WWE) -- I've seen that posted VERBATIM, on THIS forum. As have you all, so even if you don't feel that way, AND don't like Reigns -- I'm certain you've seen the posts I'm referring too.
You're welcome to like, and dislike, whomever you so choose. But for people saying "Reigns isn't the total package" -- I just don't see how you can feel that way. I legitimately have to question "what were your thoughts on The Rock when he first started?" -- because WWE nearly blew that chance -- 2-3 times.
Reigns will never be another Cena. Agreed, and I say GOOD. The company doesn't need another Cena. Moving forward, they need to SPREAD the wealth. If you walk away from the Shield breakup with 3 main-eventers, comparatively speaking with Cena, Orton, and Hardy in Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins -- your company is set for the next 20 years. No two ways about it. Throw in your new "over the top" Undertaker/Kane type with Bray Wyatt -- and -- hot damn.
Except that none of them are those guys. In many ways -- most ways -- they're either better, or have the potential to BE better in the next 2-3 years. That is an AWESOME thing for WWE/we as fans.
So, yes, it blows my mind that so many people are basically like "f*** Reigns" already -- but you're welcome to that opinion. My original post pointed out specific things that people had mentioned, and defended those points. Because I've had one sentence quoted, doesn't mean that one sentence defines my point of view. It was a valid point, included in what I felt was a valid post, based on what I've seen on these very forums, about a superstar that I don't feel has given any of us legit reason to think "he'll never be the guy" yet, even though that's pretty clearly what they want from him.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 16:48:33 GMT -5
My single sentence in my entire point that seems to be getting quoted, I'll still stand by. A LOT of the heat Reigns catches is because he's not as cool as (whoever the hell Ambrose, and Rollins were, pre-WWE) -- I've seen that posted VERBATIM, on THIS forum. As have you all, so even if you don't feel that way, AND don't like Reigns -- I'm certain you've seen the posts I'm referring too. You're welcome to like, and dislike, whomever you so choose. But for people saying "Reigns isn't the total package" -- I just don't see how you can feel that way. I legitimately have to question "what were your thoughts on The Rock when he first started?" -- because WWE nearly blew that chance -- 2-3 times. Reigns will never be another Cena. Agreed, and I say GOOD. The company doesn't need another Cena. Moving forward, they need to SPREAD the wealth. If you walk away from the Shield breakup with 3 main-eventers, comparatively speaking with Cena, Orton, and Hardy in Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins -- your company is set for the next 20 years. No two ways about it. Throw in your new "over the top" Undertaker/Kane type with Bray Wyatt -- and -- hot damn. Except that none of them are those guys. In many ways -- most ways -- they're either better, or have the potential to BE better in the next 2-3 years. That is an AWESOME thing for WWE/we as fans. So, yes, it blows my mind that so many people are basically like "f*** Reigns" already -- but you're welcome to that opinion. My original post pointed out specific things that people had mentioned, and defended those points. Because I've had one sentence quoted, doesn't mean that one sentence defines my point of view. It was a valid point, included in what I felt was a valid post, based on what I've seen on these very forums, about a superstar that I don't feel has given any of us legit reason to think "he'll never be the guy" yet, even though that's pretty clearly what they want from him. My only disagreement with anything that you just said is, none of those guys will be better than The Undertaker. Not in 2-3 and not ever. IMO
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Post by Robert69 on Jul 4, 2014 16:59:22 GMT -5
My single sentence in my entire point that seems to be getting quoted, I'll still stand by. A LOT of the heat Reigns catches is because he's not as cool as (whoever the hell Ambrose, and Rollins were, pre-WWE) -- I've seen that posted VERBATIM, on THIS forum. As have you all, so even if you don't feel that way, AND don't like Reigns -- I'm certain you've seen the posts I'm referring too. You're welcome to like, and dislike, whomever you so choose. But for people saying "Reigns isn't the total package" -- I just don't see how you can feel that way. I legitimately have to question "what were your thoughts on The Rock when he first started?" -- because WWE nearly blew that chance -- 2-3 times. Reigns will never be another Cena. Agreed, and I say GOOD. The company doesn't need another Cena. Moving forward, they need to SPREAD the wealth. If you walk away from the Shield breakup with 3 main-eventers, comparatively speaking with Cena, Orton, and Hardy in Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins -- your company is set for the next 20 years. No two ways about it. Throw in your new "over the top" Undertaker/Kane type with Bray Wyatt -- and -- hot damn. Except that none of them are those guys. In many ways -- most ways -- they're either better, or have the potential to BE better in the next 2-3 years. That is an AWESOME thing for WWE/we as fans. So, yes, it blows my mind that so many people are basically like "f*** Reigns" already -- but you're welcome to that opinion. My original post pointed out specific things that people had mentioned, and defended those points. Because I've had one sentence quoted, doesn't mean that one sentence defines my point of view. It was a valid point, included in what I felt was a valid post, based on what I've seen on these very forums, about a superstar that I don't feel has given any of us legit reason to think "he'll never be the guy" yet, even though that's pretty clearly what they want from him. My only disagreement with anything that you just said is, none of those guys will be better than The Undertaker. Not in 2-3 and not ever. IMO I meant Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins > Cena, Orton, Hardy specifically -- my inclusion of Taker/Kane and Wyatt was just the over the top type of characters that they are. We don't get characters like that, anymore. Bray Wyatt for all intents, and purposes, belongs in the 90s, they type of character he is. BUT -- he could stay that character, more or less, his entire WWE tenure -- and if used RIGHT (which WWE hasn't done so far, thanks to the Cena-feeding) -- be remembered as fondly as Taker/Kane will after their time is done, for the characters they were. That was my only point in including them. But overall, WWE has such an exceptional young talent pool right now, it's ridiculous. Hell, in one fell swoop they managed to take Jack Swagger and make him relevant again. If Kurt Angle could work as a character for a decade, and be remembered so damn fondly -- using Swagger right could end up doing the same. Especially with Coulter as a mouth piece. Big E (who gets far more flack than he deserves), Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, etc, etc -- the WWE has 12-20 young superstars with exceptional futures ahead. It's an awesome time to be a fan.
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Post by ✖ AJ on Jul 4, 2014 17:00:21 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is Batista. Dean Ambrose is Brian Pillman. Seth Rollins is Christian.
That is who the three remind me of, and with that logic Reigns will be the most successful.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 17:06:17 GMT -5
My only disagreement with anything that you just said is, none of those guys will be better than The Undertaker. Not in 2-3 and not ever. IMO I meant Reigns, Ambrose, Rollins > Cena, Orton, Hardy specifically -- my inclusion of Taker/Kane and Wyatt was just the over the top type of characters that they are. We don't get characters like that, anymore. Bray Wyatt for all intents, and purposes, belongs in the 90s, they type of character he is. BUT -- he could stay that character, more or less, his entire WWE tenure -- and if used RIGHT (which WWE hasn't done so far, thanks to the Cena-feeding) -- be remembered as fondly as Taker/Kane will after their time is done, for the characters they were. That was my only point in including them. But overall, WWE has such an exceptional young talent pool right now, it's ridiculous. Hell, in one fell swoop they managed to take Jack Swagger and make him relevant again. If Kurt Angle could work as a character for a decade, and be remembered so damn fondly -- using Swagger right could end up doing the same. Especially with Coulter as a mouth piece. Big E (who gets far more flack than he deserves), Ziggler, Cody Rhodes, etc, etc -- the WWE has 12-20 young superstars with exceptional futures ahead. It's an awesome time to be a fan. Lol I agree brother. I take Taker seriously
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2014 17:23:36 GMT -5
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Post by Midnight on Jul 4, 2014 17:25:30 GMT -5
I agree with a lot of what the OP said. I do however think that Reigns has the look/IT factor to be the top guy and the crowds are really behind him. I think that overall Rollins and Ambrose are better than Roman.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 4, 2014 17:43:50 GMT -5
Roman Reigns is Batista. Dean Ambrose is Brian Pillman. Seth Rollins is Christian. That is who the three remind me of, and with that logic Reigns will be the most successful. I see Rollins right now kind of like 1999 Triple H after turning on DX... Not the main heel yet, but definitely could be soon.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Jul 4, 2014 17:45:11 GMT -5
1997ish too. Injuries and guys leaving has really put the three Shield guys and Bray Wyatt all on the verge of rising to that top level for good. Damn I really wish Bray was the next designated "top guy" Bray could be the closest thing we get to a new Undertaker... Never "the man" but he could be around the top of the card for another decade or so, evolving his character along the way.
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