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Post by Chip on Jul 8, 2014 18:34:42 GMT -5
I'm sitting here on the WWE Network watching Summerslam 2010....so almost 4 years ago.
Watching Sheamus vs. Orton. (BTW Orton looked a lot leaner and cleaner back then, he should return to the shaved head/no wrist tape look. it fits him MUCH better)
Right at the beginning of the match they lock up a couple times, then Orton comes back at Sheamus with punches & kicks out of the corner
and guess what?
The camera is actually zoomed out slightly so you can see both guys, and just staying steady on the action
WOW!
I can SEE what's happening! There isn't an endless amount of zooming and cutting and panning and zooming and shaking and panning
just on a few quick punches and kicks
Then Orton pushed Sheamus into the corner and begins to kick him in the chest & stomach...
and guess what
I can WATCH IT. The camera isn't following Orton's leg up and down in quick succession. It's amazing!!
I feel like I'm watching an entirely different company's wrestling show
I really don't know when this horrendous camera crap started (It's gotta only be within the last couple of years)....but it HAS to go. It's ruining wrestling. I'm not even kidding. I can't focus on matches because every time a succession of kicks or punches is thrown by a wrestler I can barely see what's going on.
It can't just be me that notices this on a weekly basis. Go back and watch some stuff even from 2010. And then watch a match from last year's Summerslam....hell I bet you can find another Sheamus/Orton match pretty easily. It's not even CLOSE. Whoever changed the instruction on camera work with this company should be fired on the spot.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 8, 2014 18:36:30 GMT -5
I don't notice the camera shakes that often, but when I do, it can get annoying. However, the biggest thing that I take away from this is that I disagree about Randy Orton's look. He should always wear wrist bands. He looks dumb to me without them.
But yea, the camerawork doesn't bother me much, but I prefer if it was steady.
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Post by drifter on Jul 8, 2014 18:36:49 GMT -5
Well isn't old beaver teeth Kevin Dunn the guy in charge of the production in the company?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:41:09 GMT -5
I agree it sucks. They switch the camera views WAY too much and shaking the camera sucks
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Post by King Richius on Jul 8, 2014 18:42:31 GMT -5
I agree with you Chip. The shaky camera crap is being used more often now and I find myself enjoying the product much less because of it.
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Post by T R W on Jul 8, 2014 18:43:05 GMT -5
Back when people first started complaining a few years ago, I didn't really have a problem. But it has noticeably gotten worse the last 6 months. It's just non stop cuts and zooms. It really makes the match hard to follow sometimes. The unnecessary shaking and zooming is a bit much, and to me, makes it look like an amateur trying too hard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 18:46:19 GMT -5
I don't notice usually. But I've noticed during a few Shield beat downs
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Post by rustyy on Jul 8, 2014 18:48:16 GMT -5
Well isn't old beaver teeth Kevin Dunn the guy in charge of the production in the company? That would be him, hopefully when Vince steps down Trips fires him that same day. Dude is a piece of dog shit |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Jul 8, 2014 18:48:18 GMT -5
Back when people first started complaining a few years ago, I didn't really have a problem. But it has noticeably gotten worse the last 6 months. It's just non stop cuts and zooms. It really makes the match hard to follow sometimes. The unnecessary shaking and zooming is a bit much, and to me, makes it look like an amateur trying too hard. It works me when a good move is being performed, and all you see is faces and arms... Pan out for god sales. This is why I have tried my hardest to attend more live shows. I can actually see the match, and not forced to listen to horrendous commentary, |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jul 8, 2014 18:49:20 GMT -5
I brought my PS4 (that's what I use for the Network) over to my dad's to watch Money in the Bank. My dad hasn't watched a full show in years.
The second match in, my dad said, "This is really different. All these angles and cameras. It's really different. I can't really follow what's happening."
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Post by BulletV1 on Jul 8, 2014 18:57:16 GMT -5
I agree the camera work is lacking recently. It's not as bad as it's made out to be, my only real complaint is during Cesaro's swing. It's really disorientating.
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Post by WMWanimations on Jul 8, 2014 19:09:38 GMT -5
TOTALLY agree! I mean sometimes a guy will be doing a big impact move. Take a suplex off the top rope for example. Sometimes it happens where the camera will zoom in on both mens stomachs the whole way through the air and follow them until they hit the mat, and its such a crappy view that you can't see the full impact of the move. Then I wait until I get to see a replay to see how big the move actually was, and the wide-angle view is way better.
Camera work is a vital part of any TV show and WWE has lacked in that department. that, and the horrible commentary. I mean I can't friggen stand the commentary.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 19:28:01 GMT -5
When the Wyatts attacked Jericho last week, I had to fill in the gaps as to what attack they did - it's ridiculous how bad it is at times, especially when it matters...
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Jul 8, 2014 19:50:09 GMT -5
I do not notice it until all of you start freaking out about it.
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Post by JoeRocco420 on Jul 8, 2014 20:23:09 GMT -5
I've noticed it too lately
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2014 20:25:28 GMT -5
Dunn can't keep his finger off the switch.
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Post by JC Motors on Jul 8, 2014 22:11:24 GMT -5
Well isn't old beaver teeth Kevin Dunn the guy in charge of the production in the company? yes |
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Post by RybackV1 on Jul 9, 2014 1:14:55 GMT -5
Honestly don't notice it until you say something in the raw thread. Then I go back to not noticing
Hey I got think I got rid of my Zapata problem maybe you should find out who's screwing with the camera angles
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Post by ¡Twist Of 45 and 47! on Jul 9, 2014 1:28:16 GMT -5
I did notice the camera cut to a wide shot of the stage before Kane's music hit during the main event of Raw just gone which seemed a bit amateur. Well isn't old beaver teeth Kevin Dunn the guy in charge of the production in the company? That would be him, hopefully when Vince steps down Trips fires him that same day. Dude is a piece of dog crap His production is second to none though. |
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Post by rustyy on Jul 9, 2014 1:39:37 GMT -5
I did notice the camera cut to a wide shot of the stage before Kane's music hit during the main event of Raw just gone which seemed a bit amateur. That would be him, hopefully when Vince steps down Trips fires him that same day. Dude is a piece of dog crap His production is second to none though. All the shows and PPV's look the same. He never changes anything and these camera angles. Ugh. |
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