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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Jul 13, 2014 1:52:56 GMT -5
No. Enough. I wish WWE would stop flogging this concept beyond its death. Lesnar and Heyman were natural heyman guys. This forced status is bogus because it is no longer about the guy himself. WWE just took the Heyman guy concept, ran with it and have flogged it but it doesnt work so stop trying to force it! It is part of WWEs ongoing problem to let things remain organic, forced does not work!
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Post by Mox on Jul 13, 2014 1:59:59 GMT -5
No. Enough. I wish WWE would stop flogging this concept beyond its death. Lesnar and Heyman were natural heyman guys. This forced status is bogus because it is no longer about the guy himself. WWE just took the Heyman guy concept, ran with it and have flogged it but it doesnt work so stop trying to force it! It is part of WWEs ongoing problem to let things remain organic, forced does not work! I pretty much agree. And they reference the Reality Era, but the Reality Era, at least in part, is acknowledging the smart fans, right? Let the people decide.
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Post by sitruC on Jul 13, 2014 4:44:36 GMT -5
I feel Heyman could do more in creative then he is doing on T.V currently, I only like him with Lesnar
But we all know Heyman will never join creative so it's pretty much going to keep happening in hopes another Punk will happen
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 5:12:17 GMT -5
I have to say this......the aura of being a "Heyman guy" is shot to sh*t lads.
Curtis Axel & Ryback seen to that. And for some reason Vinnie seen fit NOT to capitalise on Cesaro's popularity and just left him doing nothing for ages. This further damaging the esteem if you will of being a Paul Heyman guy.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 6:20:52 GMT -5
It should have remained an off-the-cuff statement made by Punk in 2011...
...now it's gone the way of 'Fandagoing'...
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Jul 13, 2014 7:21:53 GMT -5
The "Paul Heyman guy" thing went from being something that was real, to being something forced. At this point, it's the equivalent of Vince telling Booker T that he was the new member of the NWO in '02.
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Post by TurboEddie on Jul 13, 2014 7:32:17 GMT -5
No, I'm tired of that shit.
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Post by punksnotdead on Jul 13, 2014 7:54:13 GMT -5
I think some of you are taking this Heyman guy stuff a little too literally. Heyman is a manager and he needs guys to represent. It's no different than the Heenan Family. Heyman is an awesome manager and I think he would be great with KENTA. Seems like a logical pairing to me.
Ryback and Axel both suck. Heyman had nothing to do with them sucking and he still managed to have the feud of the year with CM Punk, despite being strapped with those two hacks.
The Cesaro thing is on creative. Cesaro had just been turned baby face by the audience and creative forced him back heel. Then they continued to have Heyman talk only about Lesnar beating the Undertaker, instead of the guy who was actually on Raw. Maybe that approach is part of the story but Cesaro needs a manager either way in order to connect with the audience.
WWE needs managers. Heyman and Zeb are great and I want to see them paired with more talent moving forward.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2014 17:07:01 GMT -5
I have a feeling the Paul Heyman guys will all be champions by or after Summerslam Brock Lesnar - WWE WHC Cesaro - US Champ Rybaxel - Tag Champs Rybaxel? Tag champs? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! But seriously wwe needs to push ryback, just ryback, Curtis needs to go to nxt
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Post by BØRNS on Jul 13, 2014 19:03:10 GMT -5
Jim Ross guys > Paul Heyman guys Stone Cold! Stone Cold! Stone Cold!
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Post by BØRNS on Jul 13, 2014 19:07:01 GMT -5
I have a feeling the Paul Heyman guys will all be champions by or after Summerslam Brock Lesnar - WWE WHC Cesaro - US Champ Rybaxel - Tag Champs Rybaxel? Tag champs? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! But seriously wwe needs to push ryback, just ryback, Curtis needs to go to nxt I didn't like the pair up either at first. But they're actually a solid team. Why do they keep pairing up McGillicutty with roided out guys? First David Otunga, now Ryback. Just pair up Otunga and Ryback - they were both season 1 NXT and roughly the same size.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Jul 13, 2014 19:33:40 GMT -5
"Paul Heyman Guy" ran its course a couple years ago.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 13, 2014 19:37:30 GMT -5
Prince Devitt.
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Jul 13, 2014 22:40:33 GMT -5
I wish it would be more of a faction than one at a time. But I don't see any advantage to him managing KENTA, mostly because he should be a face.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 7:42:32 GMT -5
Rybaxel? Tag champs? HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! But seriously wwe needs to push ryback, just ryback, Curtis needs to go to nxt I didn't like the pair up either at first. But they're actually a solid team. Why do they keep pairing up McGillicutty with roided out guys? First David Otunga, now Ryback. Just pair up Otunga and Ryback - they were both season 1 NXT and roughly the same size. I just don't think ryback is made to be in a tag team, he needs to go back to being a monster who destroys jobbers, now he's a jobber being destroyed by monsters
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jul 14, 2014 7:55:31 GMT -5
I just don't think ryback is made to be in a tag team, he needs to go back to being a monster who destroys jobbers, now he's a jobber being destroyed by monsters Ryback as an unstoppable monster was a ship that sailed in October 2012, hit the SuperPunk iceberg, and sank without a trace. The genie can't go back in the bottle. Whatever Ryback's next singles role is, it won't be the Goldberg push.
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Post by BØRNS on Jul 14, 2014 18:33:16 GMT -5
I just don't think ryback is made to be in a tag team, he needs to go back to being a monster who destroys jobbers, now he's a jobber being destroyed by monsters Ryback as an unstoppable monster was a ship that sailed in October 2012, hit the SuperPunk iceberg, and sank without a trace. The genie can't go back in the bottle. Whatever Ryback's next singles role is, it won't be the Goldberg push. They can revitalize him the same way they revitalized Mark Henry for his 2011 WHC run. Nothing's impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 19:41:30 GMT -5
It's ok as long as it makes sense. Punk, Lesnar made sense. They were obvious main eventers and worthy of Paul Heyman as manager. Curtis Axel and Cesaro just make no sense.
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