Duke Silver
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Post by Duke Silver on Jul 14, 2014 17:12:20 GMT -5
Rock vs. Austin
Anytime those two were in the ring together, you knew you'd get something special (in-ring segment, match, etc.).
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Post by Next Man’s Yeeter on Jul 14, 2014 17:49:27 GMT -5
Rock vs Austin, no doubt. Classic matches and moments. I'm not sure Hogan vs Savage is era defining though, I'd say Hogan vs Andre would probably be the major feud from that generation. Cena vs Edge was a great feud, but no Austin vs Rock. Bret vs Shawn was just such a letdown in the ring at WrestleMania 12, I felt.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2014 18:54:48 GMT -5
Pretty simple. I know many would want Austin-McMahon but I kept it wrestler vs. wrestler. So yeah, which do you think was the best feud? great Topic Mike. IMO its Austin vs Rock......Hogan vs Savage is a DAMN close second though.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 14, 2014 19:20:26 GMT -5
Rock/Austin
No other time have we had 2 stars, who transcended the sport, face of against each other in their primes. While guys like Savage, HBK, and Edge were the top rivals to Hogan, Bret, and Cena, they were never truly seen on the same level as their rivals. Rock and Austin both have a real claim to being the top dog at different points during '98-02. They both became bigger than pro wrestling and we most likely will never get that combo of true superstars again.
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Post by King Richius on Jul 15, 2014 0:06:13 GMT -5
Rock/Austin No other time have we had 2 stars, who transcended the sport, face of against each other in their primes. While guys like Savage, HBK, and Edge were the top rivals to Hogan, Bret, and Cena, they were never truly seen on the same level as their rivals. Rock and Austin both have a real claim to being the top dog at different points during '98-02. They both became bigger than pro wrestling and we most likely will never get that combo of true superstars again. Guess you never heard of either Hulk Hogan or Roddy Piper. Both were household names at a time when that wasn't as common for professional wrestlers. Their feud crossed over into mainstream media as well as attracted celebrities like Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T into the world of professional wrestling. Both went on to make a mark in other forms of entertainment including movies and TV. They built the house that Austin and Rock would live in 15 years later. I'm not saying Rock and Austin didn't do great things by professional wrestling standards but let's not get carried away and say something silly like they are the only ones to transcend the sport. To the OP, I voted for Hogan/Savage because of all the twists and turns to their relationship over the years but I really consider Hogan/Piper to be THE defining feud for the WWE.
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Post by 0,Y on Jul 15, 2014 5:46:09 GMT -5
Although I love the Cena/Edge feud and Edge is in my top 3 of all time I gotta go with Austin and Rock here.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 15, 2014 6:23:05 GMT -5
Rock/Austin No other time have we had 2 stars, who transcended the sport, face of against each other in their primes. While guys like Savage, HBK, and Edge were the top rivals to Hogan, Bret, and Cena, they were never truly seen on the same level as their rivals. Rock and Austin both have a real claim to being the top dog at different points during '98-02. They both became bigger than pro wrestling and we most likely will never get that combo of true superstars again. Guess you never heard of either Hulk Hogan or Roddy Piper. Both were household names at a time when that wasn't as common for professional wrestlers. Their feud crossed over into mainstream media as well as attracted celebrities like Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T into the world of professional wrestling. Both went on to make a mark in other forms of entertainment including movies and TV. They built the house that Austin and Rock would live in 15 years later. I'm not saying Rock and Austin didn't do great things by professional wrestling standards but let's not get carried away and say something silly like they are the only ones to transcend the sport. To the OP, I voted for Hogan/Savage because of all the twists and turns to their relationship over the years but I really consider Hogan/Piper to be THE defining feud for the WWE. Piper was no where near hogan, rock, or Austin's level of popularity. Sure he was the top heel for a time but never achieved the main stream media the other 3 did. I'd say savage was much closer to that level than piper was.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 6:30:29 GMT -5
Guess you never heard of either Hulk Hogan or Roddy Piper. Both were household names at a time when that wasn't as common for professional wrestlers. Their feud crossed over into mainstream media as well as attracted celebrities like Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T into the world of professional wrestling. Both went on to make a mark in other forms of entertainment including movies and TV. They built the house that Austin and Rock would live in 15 years later. I'm not saying Rock and Austin didn't do great things by professional wrestling standards but let's not get carried away and say something silly like they are the only ones to transcend the sport. To the OP, I voted for Hogan/Savage because of all the twists and turns to their relationship over the years but I really consider Hogan/Piper to be THE defining feud for the WWE. Piper was no where near hogan, rock, or Austin's level of popularity. Sure he was the top heel for a time but never achieved the main stream media the other 3 did. I'd say savage was much closer to that level than piper was. 100% agreed. Putting piper in the same sentence as Austin or Rock in terms or crossover appeal is frankly just incorrect.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 10:02:12 GMT -5
HBK vs. Bret but it should have been even better. If both guys had their heads put on straight they could've drawn HUGE money.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jul 15, 2014 10:03:37 GMT -5
HBK vs. Bret but it should have been even better. If both guys had their heads put on straight they could've drawn HUGE money. Doesn't Bret say something along those lines on a Legends of Wrestling Roundtable?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2014 10:04:56 GMT -5
HBK vs. Bret but it should have been even better. If both guys had their heads put on straight they could've drawn HUGE money. Doesn't Bret say something along those lines on a Legends of Wrestling Roundtable? Yup. He said they could've had great matches all the time if they would've worked together more.
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Post by King Richius on Jul 15, 2014 14:09:11 GMT -5
Guess you never heard of either Hulk Hogan or Roddy Piper. Both were household names at a time when that wasn't as common for professional wrestlers. Their feud crossed over into mainstream media as well as attracted celebrities like Cyndi Lauper and Mr. T into the world of professional wrestling. Both went on to make a mark in other forms of entertainment including movies and TV. They built the house that Austin and Rock would live in 15 years later. I'm not saying Rock and Austin didn't do great things by professional wrestling standards but let's not get carried away and say something silly like they are the only ones to transcend the sport. To the OP, I voted for Hogan/Savage because of all the twists and turns to their relationship over the years but I really consider Hogan/Piper to be THE defining feud for the WWE. Piper was no where near hogan, rock, or Austin's level of popularity. Sure he was the top heel for a time but never achieved the main stream media the other 3 did. I'd say savage was much closer to that level than piper was. I will give several reasons why I think Piper is on the same level as Austin: - Both were very over inside the wrestling community, Austin the bigger of the two in that regard but Piper's popularity was still pretty high. - Both went on to acting careers but Piper did it at a time when the WWE didn't have their own movie studio producing B movies for wrestlers to star in. Also, Piper had the lead role in a John Carpenter movie that was an actual theatrical release (They Live). All of Austin's movies where he was the lead were direct to video. - I use my mother as a benchmark for a wrestler's mainstream crossover popularity since she is the perfect example of the non-wrestling fan who has never and will never watch a wrestling program. She can identify four wrestlers by name and/or appearance: Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and Roddy Piper. She has no idea who Steve Austin is. - In my life just twice have I heard a local newscast announce pro wrestling match results during the sports part of the news: the first time was the WM I main event and the second was the Punk/Cena match at MITB '11. If you see it differently, then we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that.
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Post by cordless2016 on Jul 15, 2014 16:42:39 GMT -5
HBK vs. Bret but it should have been even better. If both guys had their heads put on straight they could've drawn HUGE money. Its a big "what if" in wrestling had Bret and HBK gotten along like Austin and Rock did. They could have had constant 5* matches and years worth of great feuds. Instead their egos and Vince' backstage crap ruined it.
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Post by HVMMONS on Jul 15, 2014 16:53:10 GMT -5
I would say Punk/Cena as well for the current era. It'll be said as one of the best, and most memorable feuds in history 10 years from now. I didn't watch the attitude era as a 3 year old, so I'm going to say Cena v. Edge
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jul 15, 2014 17:51:09 GMT -5
I would say Punk/Cena as well for the current era. It'll be said as one of the best, and most memorable feuds in history 10 years from now. I didn't watch the attitude era as a 3 year old, so I'm going to say Cena v. Edge I wouldn't say the bulk of Cena-Edge was in the same era as the bulk of Punk-Cena. Punk-Cena was really at the transition of eras.
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Post by HVMMONS on Jul 15, 2014 17:53:32 GMT -5
I would say Punk/Cena as well for the current era. It'll be said as one of the best, and most memorable feuds in history 10 years from now. I didn't watch the attitude era as a 3 year old, so I'm going to say Cena v. Edge I wouldn't say the bulk of Cena-Edge was in the same era as the bulk of Punk-Cena. Punk-Cena was really at the transition of eras. True, but in its short time, the Punk-Cena feud stood out more than any other feud in the past 10 years.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jul 15, 2014 18:03:51 GMT -5
Piper was no where near hogan, rock, or Austin's level of popularity. Sure he was the top heel for a time but never achieved the main stream media the other 3 did. I'd say savage was much closer to that level than piper was. I will give several reasons why I think Piper is on the same level as Austin: - Both were very over inside the wrestling community, Austin the bigger of the two in that regard but Piper's popularity was still pretty high. - Both went on to acting careers but Piper did it at a time when the WWE didn't have their own movie studio producing B movies for wrestlers to star in. Also, Piper had the lead role in a John Carpenter movie that was an actual theatrical release (They Live). All of Austin's movies where he was the lead were direct to video. - I use my mother as a benchmark for a wrestler's mainstream crossover popularity since she is the perfect example of the non-wrestling fan who has never and will never watch a wrestling program. She can identify four wrestlers by name and/or appearance: Andre the Giant, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, and Roddy Piper. She has no idea who Steve Austin is. - In my life just twice have I heard a local newscast announce pro wrestling match results during the sports part of the news: the first time was the WM I main event and the second was the Punk/Cena match at MITB '11. If you see it differently, then we will have to agree to disagree and leave it at that. Completely agree. Piper might not have been the wrestling draw that a guy like Austin was but to say Piper wasnt mainstream would be kinda foolish. The Attitude Era was 1a and 1b with Austin & Rock, the same can be said for Hogan & Piper. While Piper might not held the titles like the other three did, you do have to remember the titles didnt swap hands every week either. Nobody can deny what Hogan did with the media cross over, but what did he do that Piper didnt? Hogan teamed with Mr T, Piper fought Mr. T. Hogan made movies, Piper made movies. Hogan guest starred in tv shows, Piper guest starred in tv shows. Hogan had a cartoon, Piper was the "rival" in the cartoon. Piper might be the lowest of the 4 no doubt, but you cant deny putting him in the argument.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 6:10:34 GMT -5
The Rock VS Steve Austin.
We will never see the likes of a rivalry like these guys had; regardless of length what they did with the time they had together was phenomenal; two amazingly talented performers of the highest calibre...
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Post by Brad on Jul 16, 2014 14:13:05 GMT -5
Gotta go with Rock Vs. Austin on this one.
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Post by Brad on Jul 16, 2014 14:13:52 GMT -5
Pretty simple. I know many would want Austin-McMahon but I kept it wrestler vs. wrestler. So yeah, which do you think was the best feud? great Topic Mike. IMO its Austin vs Rock...... Hogan vs Savage is a DAMN close second though.Heck yeah it is
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