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Post by Happy Pizza on Jul 16, 2014 21:32:53 GMT -5
Predictable? Sure. Pointless? Not totally. There isn't room for Wyatt in the title picture right now, and Jericho at least gives him a decent foil who can produce some entertaining promos and help Wyatt maintain momentum which prevents him from floundering aimlessly like Cesaro. Wyatt's character is an agent of chaos who opposes everything people cheer for. Every time he returns, Jericho is cheered almost by default, just because he is a legend. Then he loses and leaves. And Bray touched on this in one of his promos. Even if it does nothing in your eyes to boost Wyatt's credibility, it helps the Wyatt character tear down another revered piece of WWE history. At the very least there's some kind of character development taking place, which is more than I can say for a lot of other young talent. Obviously Jericho won't win, but that doesn't automatically mean the feud is worthless or that his presence isn't serving any purpose. Without ever reading spoilers or rumors I can predict who will win just about every match at any given PPV, but it never stopped me from watching. For example, since it was clear as day that Shawn Michaels would lose to the Undertaker at Wrestlemania, did we all say that match (or entire feud) was pointless and/or predictable?
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Post by slappy on Jul 16, 2014 21:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by ~*Young $ Money*~ on Jul 16, 2014 21:41:09 GMT -5
I agree. what does Wyatt going over him really do or prove? Nothing. You wanna get Wyatt over put him over Cena and prove he is a threat. Everyone goes over Jericho so I lost its appeal to me a while ago.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 0:54:40 GMT -5
It's always gr8 to see Y2J but yes he should get some wins time to time.
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Jul 17, 2014 8:31:51 GMT -5
Disagree. Shut this blasphemous thread down. HAHA!!
Seriously, Chris Jericho is my favorite WWE Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainer of all time. I don’t care if he wins, loses, or draws. I don’t care if he just talks, just silent, just screaming, just singing, or just hosting. I don’t care if he brings out Fozzy every Monday night and performs at 9:00 and 10:00 as an intermission of sorts. I don’t even care if he shows up once a year like the Undertaker. I’ll always be a Jericho-holic and be entertained by Y2J.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 9:42:49 GMT -5
Jericho's returns are never pointless. I love when he's around.
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Post by El Armbar on Jul 17, 2014 20:15:29 GMT -5
I'd agree if this thread was about RVD. The Wyatt/Y2J feud has potential for some amazing promos and great matches. Although I don't know if Jericho can elevate Bray to another level. The WWE story lines rarely create important matches that result in meaningful wins. Bray didn't really take off until his match with D-Bry at the Royal Rumble. Jericho on the other hand has already accomplished so much that a win or lose don't really matter to his character.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 20:22:23 GMT -5
Yep, I could care less if he returns, wrestling now a days is way too predictable and this doesn't help having him lose
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Post by Quazimoto on Jul 17, 2014 20:50:29 GMT -5
Pointless or not, I don't care a bit. Anytime Jericho wants to pop in for a few months is fine by me because you know he's a guys who actually cares about the business (as evident by his willingness and desire to work with and put over the younger guys). What's more, even now, Jericho is ten times better than 95% of the roster.
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Post by Rob7274 on Jul 18, 2014 8:28:53 GMT -5
I've never been a fan of "legend returns and loses to new guy" concept. Not saying that big name former stars should come back and run over the roster on their way to the title....but look at RVD, dude has lost almost every match since coming back, so why should I even care about seeing him anymore? The thing is balance, which this company does NOT have at all. I totally agree, It almost hurts there legacy and history. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 9:40:03 GMT -5
Does anyone else really not care when Jericho returns? I just think its so telegraphed that he's coming back to lose to someone that it kinda negates the point of him doing it. A major star putting over a younger guy should be something that makes you think "oh sh*t, they mean business with him!", but instead I just kinda think "Yeah, so what? Jericho loses to everyone. I don't care." Obviously its a hugely extreme example, but at the other end if Cena loses to someone young you go "This guy is the next big thing!" instantly. I just don't think Jericho coming back to lose has a point anymore. Anyone agree/disagree?you mean You mean like how John Cena lost to nexus at summer slam 2010 oh that's right he won despite being ddt on unprotected concrete you mean like how John Cena put over Dolph Ziggler oh that's right he won that feud to you mean like how John Cena put over Damien sandow last year on raw when he cashed in his money in the bant tile shot. oh that's right Cena won despite havin a injured arm. just like how he put over Bray waytt oh that's right he laughed him off as a joke on every single tv show while dominating the feud. You mean like how John Cena lost to nexus at summer slam 2010 oh that's right he won despite being ddt on unprotected concrete you mean like how John Cena put over Dolph Ziggler oh that's right he won that feud to you mean like how John Cena put over Damien sandow last year on raw when he cashed in his money in the bank title shot. oh that's right Cena won despite havin a injured arm. just like how he put over Bray waytt oh that's right he laughed him off as a joke on every single tv show while dominating the feud. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 9:44:39 GMT -5
I think when he feels he is done, he'll sign on for a lengthy contract and actually do something during that run. Right now, these quick stints keep him relevant and keep him from getting burnt out. It'll lead to a much longer career for Jericho which is good for him and his fans. The problem is, with what he's done in his last two runs, him having a big 'farewell' run is kind of out of the question. He's not a guy who can be, nor should he be, slotted back into the main event while the company is in a transition period. The difference between him and Orton/Cena are that the latter two are protected and treated like main event guys and Jericho is an attraction at best...and he's not a big enough attraction to warrant main event matches. |
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Jul 18, 2014 11:01:30 GMT -5
Does anyone else really not care when Jericho returns? I just think its so telegraphed that he's coming back to lose to someone that it kinda negates the point of him doing it. A major star putting over a younger guy should be something that makes you think "oh sh*t, they mean business with him!", but instead I just kinda think "Yeah, so what? Jericho loses to everyone. I don't care." Obviously its a hugely extreme example, but at the other end if Cena loses to someone young you go "This guy is the next big thing!" instantly. I just don't think Jericho coming back to lose has a point anymore. Anyone agree/disagree?you mean You mean like how John Cena lost to nexus at summer slam 2010 oh that's right he won despite being ddt on unprotected concrete you mean like how John Cena put over Dolph Ziggler oh that's right he won that feud to you mean like how John Cena put over Damien sandow last year on raw when he cashed in his money in the bant tile shot. oh that's right Cena won despite havin a injured arm. just like how he put over Bray waytt oh that's right he laughed him off as a joke on every single tv show while dominating the feud. You mean like how John Cena lost to nexus at summer slam 2010 oh that's right he won despite being ddt on unprotected concrete you mean like how John Cena put over Dolph Ziggler oh that's right he won that feud to you mean like how John Cena put over Damien sandow last year on raw when he cashed in his money in the bank title shot. oh that's right Cena won despite havin a injured arm. just like how he put over Bray waytt oh that's right he laughed him off as a joke on every single tv show while dominating the feud. I don't mean any of those... I meant stuff like losing to Bryan at SummerSlam. |
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Post by Captain Charisma on Jul 18, 2014 11:12:24 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 13:10:17 GMT -5
It's pointless Jericho has to do Cenas dirty work if they really wanted bra to be a superstar he would've beat Cena at Mania
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Post by Yambag Jones on Jul 18, 2014 13:33:44 GMT -5
Disagree. Shut this blasphemous thread down. HAHA!! Seriously, Chris Jericho is my favorite WWE Professional Sports Wrestling Entertainer of all time. I don’t care if he wins, loses, or draws. I don’t care if he just talks, just silent, just screaming, just singing, or just hosting. I don’t care if he brings out Fozzy every Monday night and performs at 9:00 and 10:00 as an intermission of sorts. I don’t even care if he shows up once a year like the Undertaker. I’ll always be a Jericho-holic and be entertained by Y2J. As soon as I was getting more and more frustrated with the product, Y2J showed up and now everything's great again! Even though he's only around for two more months, this feud with Bray will be epic. E-P-I-C. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 16:59:19 GMT -5
You mean like how John Cena lost to nexus at summer slam 2010 oh that's right he won despite being ddt on unprotected concrete you mean like how John Cena put over Dolph Ziggler oh that's right he won that feud to you mean like how John Cena put over Damien sandow last year on raw when he cashed in his money in the bank title shot. oh that's right Cena won despite havin a injured arm. just like how he put over Bray waytt oh that's right he laughed him off as a joke on every single tv show while dominating the feud. I don't mean any of those... I meant stuff like losing to Bryan at SummerSlam. Oh come on the only reason he lost to bryan at Summer Slam was because he was injured ans was going to miss time. They had no intention of putting the tile on Bryan.and the way they booked Bryan after Summer Slam proved this. Between getting his ass kicked to end every single raw and Smack Down for two months. Getting bumped out of the title picture so we can see Big Show vs Randy Orton and John Cena vs Randy Orton for the 155569 time. His stupid heel turn they had to change after two weeks. And to top it all off he wasn't in the Royal Rumble So HHH buddy 45 year old Batista could win it. |
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Post by HHH316 on Jul 18, 2014 17:48:43 GMT -5
I think all of the coming & going has killed a lot of his buzz.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2014 19:01:54 GMT -5
Had to. Would you please, SHUT THE HELL UP?
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Post by Shane O. on Jul 18, 2014 20:21:40 GMT -5
I don't mind Jericho coming back. Is it pretty much the same every time? Yes. But Jericho was one of my favorites growing up so there's some leniency there.
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