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Post by AmbroseBeforeHoes on Nov 4, 2014 3:26:12 GMT -5
If Sky are bothered about losing money over ppvs , can we not just have the network without the ppvs on it ? Personally I only want it for the archive footage so it wouldn't really bother me if ppvs were not available. That was the BIG selling point for it in the US though. You get all the PPVs, and you're getting Survivor Series FREE with the 1 month free trial. If there's no PPVs, the UK subscription rate will be low (IMPO). I'm not paying £12.99* just to watch all of SCSAs matches. *Was the price ever announced before the delay?
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Post by Bizzle on Nov 4, 2014 3:55:15 GMT -5
But if we get it as a channel then I can't see how we are going to get all of archive footage that's available to everyone else.
Either way, I think we're getting majorly short changed in this situation.
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Post by Escape The Rules on Nov 4, 2014 6:21:45 GMT -5
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 4, 2014 8:03:59 GMT -5
*Was the price ever announced before the delay? Yep. $9.99, so about £6 depending on exchange rate when the money comes out each month. It's the same price worldwide, apart from the TV version in Canada.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 8:26:56 GMT -5
Whats so wrong is that sky and wwe have had all year to sort this out
I have heard on another forum about sky store offering this
It's so wrong to delay and 17 hrs later we still don't know
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:41:56 GMT -5
Ugh...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 8:09:02 GMT -5
Well, Vince has personally released a video on WWE.com apologising to all of us, saying that they are looking at "potential partners" for the Network. Great, Sky wins then.
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Post by Joe CR on Nov 7, 2014 9:21:30 GMT -5
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Post by SteveHulk on Nov 7, 2014 14:40:53 GMT -5
Well, as someone who already has Sky and mainly wants The Network for the PPVs and new content, this would be ideal for me. I can see why it wouldn't suit those without Sky and who mainly want it for the archive/on-demand content though.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 7, 2014 14:53:15 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: I question why WWE would go this route. Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one.
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Post by hbkjason on Nov 7, 2014 15:36:06 GMT -5
I am honestly mind blown that people want this to be a sky tv channel over a streaming service. Why on earth would you want less content, but for the same price? No way in hell sky are going to offer it for less than the price they are already charging for ppvs. If the wwe network does not make you happy then I honestly do not know what the wwe could do for you. I have the basic talk talk package and have the wwe network on two devices with a VPN and I have never had a single issue with it.
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Post by SteveHulk on Nov 7, 2014 16:05:19 GMT -5
I am honestly mind blown that people want this to be a sky tv channel over a streaming service. Why on earth would you want less content, but for the same price? No way in hell sky are going to offer it for less than the price they are already charging for ppvs. If the wwe network does not make you happy then I honestly do not know what the wwe could do for you. I have the basic talk talk package and have the wwe network on two devices with a VPN and I have never had a single issue with it. Well, as I said, I mainly want it for the PPVs and new content. The big plus-point for it being a TV channel for me is - a. no hassle/no worries about the streaming pausing or not working (I tried the US version during the free period and a lot of the stuff either wouldn't play or kept stop-starting... that's the last thing I want when I sit down to watch a PPV). I know a lot of people haven't had a problem with it - but quite a few (including me) have; and b. I only have a basic laptop and want to watch the PPVs etc on my big-screen TV in perfect quality (...I don't have any games-consoles or other streaming devices). I've tried connecting my lap-top to the TV and the quality was average at best... nowhere near the HD quality on Sky. I know I'm probably in the minority, but a 24/7 WWE TV channel sounds awesome.
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Post by Joe CR on Nov 7, 2014 16:06:50 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: I question why WWE would go this route. Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one. It's such a restrictive approach though. A channel system would work, if people didn't already have to pay for Sky as well as Sky Sports on top and now a WWE Network price (which I highly doubt will be in the £6 range that it works out as under the $9.99 conversion). It's too much for a lot of people.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:15:51 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: I question why WWE would go this route. Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one. Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 7, 2014 16:38:59 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one. Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. Uh... Because the reality is, that the "critically acclaimed" version is flopping very hard and the "universally panned" version is actually proving viable based on the numbers at the current limited availability. If you thought the American network was working and the Canadian one wasn't, you must have been very confused as to why WWE is desperately looking to partner up with Sky for it over here.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:43:18 GMT -5
Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. Uh... Because the reality is, that the "critically acclaimed" version is flopping very hard and the "universally panned" version is actually proving viable based on the numbers at the current limited availability. If you thought the American network was working and the Canadian one wasn't, you must have been very confused as to why WWE is desperately looking to partner up with Sky for it over here. Where are the numbers for just Canada? I haven't seen them posted. As for why WWE "want" Sky to partner with them (which we don't even know), there are multiple reasons. More than anything, it's probably a legal matter. WWE can't just give away PPVs that they're supposed to be providing Sky with to charge £15 for.
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Post by SteveHulk on Nov 7, 2014 16:48:54 GMT -5
I don't think the Sky customer service people know anything yet, so it's best not to take them too seriously. But if true: Because the American (WWE's biggest market) version of the network has been a flop. The Canadian (WWE's third biggest market) version of the network hasn't. They want the UK (WWE's second biggest market) version to be more successful than the flopped one. Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. The US version may have been great for the fans - but that doesn't take away the fact that WWE shares are down and the subscriber number is nowhere near where they want it. And just look at the recent changes (no monthly commitment, November free)... it reeks of desperation. Not to mention, since The Network, they're basically pricing every PPV - including Wrestlemania - at $9.99... from a business standpoint, they seen to have put all their eggs in one basket and shot themselves in the foot. I can't help thinking they should have released a similar service, minus the monthly PPV's - yes, the subscriber number would be much lower, but you'd also have all the PPV buys. $50-$60 PPV buys too.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 16:53:29 GMT -5
Uh....how do you figure that? The US Network has been critically acclaimed while the Canadian one is universally panned. I can't imagine it's been much of a financial success either considering it's apparently only available to a small portion of the country. The US version may have been great for the fans - but that doesn't take away the fact that WWE shares are down and the subscriber number is nowhere near where they want it. And just look at the recent changes (no monthly commitment, November free)... it reeks of desperation. Not to mention, since The Network, they're basically pricing every PPV - including Wrestlemania - at $9.99... from a business standpoint, they seen to have put all their eggs in one basket and shot themselves in the foot. I can't help thinking they should have released a similar service, minus the monthly PPV's - yes, the subscriber number would be much lower, but you'd also have all the PPV buys. $50-$60 PPV buys too. True, but that doesn't mean going the Canadian way is the right answer either. The majority of UK fans would much rather have a US-style network than "Sky Sports WWE".
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 7, 2014 17:01:24 GMT -5
The majority of UK fans on the Internet would much rather have a US-style network than "Sky Sports WWE". Fixed. The reality is that a lot that anybody in the UK who really wants the US-style WWE Network has had the ability to get it since February on pretty much all platforms except Android. The 730,000 subscriber number actually includes many, many thousand UK subscribers. If people are desperate for the US-style WWE network, they can already get it -- I had it for the first six months. And WWE is aware that a lot of their current subscribers are from non-US countries. Offering the UK the same thing isn't going to result in a very significant bump in membership, because the people who want it most are already subscibers. Offering it as a TV station opens it up to the people who haven't quite made the leap to OTT services yet, which is the group that can offer a significant bump. And at lower cost (due to partnering with Sky) and a higher price point for a weaker service.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Nov 7, 2014 17:17:36 GMT -5
The majority of UK fans on the Internet would much rather have a US-style network than "Sky Sports WWE". Fixed. The reality is that a lot that anybody in the UK who really wants the US-style WWE Network has had the ability to get it since February on pretty much all platforms except Android. The 730,000 subscriber number actually includes many, many thousand UK subscribers. If people are desperate for the US-style WWE network, they can already get it -- I had it for the first six months. And WWE is aware that a lot of their current subscribers are from non-US countries. Offering the UK the same thing isn't going to result in a very significant bump in membership, because the people who want it most are already subscibers. Offering it as a TV station opens it up to the people who haven't quite made the leap to OTT services yet, which is the group that can offer a significant bump. And at lower cost (due to partnering with Sky) and a higher price point for a weaker service. As you ignored my request for the Canadian numbers, I assume you are just pulling facts out of your arse. You don't know that the Canadian network is successful, nor do you know that most UK fans want Sky Sports WWE. At least mine is based off of something i.e. the reaction from pretty much any UK wrestling fan on the Internet, which is a fairly large number. The idea that most people even know about getting around the Network region block is ludicrous, as evidenced by the fact that even online (where people are more likely to have heard such a thing) most contains people asking how to do it. I've already helped about a dozen people online who didn't know what to do or how to do it. Again, you don't know that the Network subscribers contain "many, many thousand UK subscribers". That's just you making facts up. When the Network was delayed a few days ago, there were thousands on Twitter who were furious. If they knew how to get the US Network, why would they be? They wouldn't. They were expecting an OTT service just like in the US and were pissed off when they didn't get it. And I guarantee most of those people still don't know how to get the US version of the Network and they probably aren't interested in Sky Sports WWE given the reaction the idea has received.
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