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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 8, 2014 13:32:11 GMT -5
my point is that it worked out fine for him OUTSIDE wrestling and im sure everyone backstage that was just fired for "cost cutting" is very happy Brock is making millions from the WWE working a few dates a year ratings were the same before Brock was around, and they will be the same after Brock is around. Ratings may be the same, but buyrates go up when Brock is on the show. Just like they do when The Rock is on the show. Though not on quite the same level.
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Post by Chip on Aug 8, 2014 13:36:13 GMT -5
i dont think buyrates matter anymore....
and the problems with the WWE viewership are not going to be solved by brock lesnar alone
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 13:38:41 GMT -5
i dont think buyrates matter anymore.... Bingo. Talking about buyrates with WWE is as outdated a conversation as using the phrase "drawing money" when referring to a potential match or feud. WWE is what draws money, not the individual stars or programs and that's proven by the fact that nothing changes no matter what they do. Attendances don't change, ratings largely don't change, they're no more on the mainstream radar right now than they are at any other point the past decade (Benoitgate aside), pretty much.
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Post by hbkjason on Aug 8, 2014 14:10:15 GMT -5
I am not starting an argument here, but how can people say he was good in the ring? Can anyone give me five matches that you would class as 5*, a plus or however you want to score them. To me he was a guy who went out there and did the bare minimum each time I saw him or if he was not doing that then he was doing his best, but his best simply was not that great.
You reall cannot blame the wwe on this one they gave him more than enough chances In big angles, mic time and ring time. But he could not get over because at the end of nether day he was just dull as hell. Again not looking to start an argument, but he is one wrestler I just do not understand how people say is great.
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Post by Dante, The Voc on Aug 8, 2014 15:49:10 GMT -5
WWE tweeted a two-parter, saying the only person to be mad at is Alberto and that he should be responsible for his own actions: Either this is a work or it's questionable immaturity from WWE's social media department. No need to keep drawing attention to it if it's legit.
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Post by J12 on Aug 8, 2014 15:52:45 GMT -5
This is all very strange.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 8, 2014 15:53:42 GMT -5
i dont think buyrates matter anymore.... and the problems with the WWE viewership are not going to be solved by brock lesnar alone True. Good point. I agree that it's not solved by Brock alone. I'm just trying to point out something from maybe the WWE's point of view.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 15:56:02 GMT -5
WWE's Twitter account just tweeted these tweets:
(1/2) @vivadelrio is responsible for his own actions. If you’re angry at anyone, be angry at Alberto.
(2/2) There’s no excuse for a pro athlete not to conduct themselves in a professional manner.
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Post by slappy on Aug 8, 2014 15:58:54 GMT -5
WWE tweeted a two-parter, saying the only person to be mad at is Alberto and that he should be responsible for his own actions: Either this is a work or it's questionable immaturity from WWE's social media department. No need to keep drawing attention to it if it's legit. I think he really is gone but maybe the excuse is a work. They amicably parted ways and WWE is doing this to take a shot at the NFL. Not saying that's what's happening but I could see Vince wanting to take a shot at them.
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Post by Jord on Aug 8, 2014 16:01:19 GMT -5
Alberto was talented in the ring but he was boring to watch.
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Post by philly boi on Aug 8, 2014 16:14:05 GMT -5
WWE tweeted a two-parter, saying the only person to be mad at is Alberto and that he should be responsible for his own actions: Either this is a work or it's questionable immaturity from WWE's social media department. No need to keep drawing attention to it if it's legit. I think he really is gone but maybe the excuse is a work. They amicably parted ways and WWE is doing this to take a shot at the NFL. Not saying that's what's happening but I could see Vince wanting to take a shot at them. Didn't they say he slapped the social media manager who obviously has access to things like the WWE's Twitter?
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Post by slappy on Aug 8, 2014 16:15:51 GMT -5
I think he really is gone but maybe the excuse is a work. They amicably parted ways and WWE is doing this to take a shot at the NFL. Not saying that's what's happening but I could see Vince wanting to take a shot at them. Didn't they say he slapped the social media manager who obviously has access to things like the WWE's Twitter? It was someone in the social media department.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 16:28:29 GMT -5
Viva Del Rio, that guy sounds like he deserved it.
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Post by El Armbar on Aug 8, 2014 16:50:05 GMT -5
It just seems odd that WWE didn't just issue a generic press release, ie. "agreed to the terms of his release.." Including the circumstances of his release draw attention to the matter. Now these tweets keep the story going. I guess Sin Cara/Hunico will be headlining the October live events in Mexico.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 16:56:22 GMT -5
I am not starting an argument here, but how can people say he was good in the ring? Can anyone give me five matches that you would class as 5*, a plus or however you want to score them. To me he was a guy who went out there and did the bare minimum each time I saw him or if he was not doing that then he was doing his best, but his best simply was not that great. You reall cannot blame the wwe on this one they gave him more than enough chances In big angles, mic time and ring time. But he could not get over because at the end of nether day he was just dull as hell. Again not looking to start an argument, but he is one wrestler I just do not understand how people say is great. Because people have opinions that vary from yours, and that's ok.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 17:47:56 GMT -5
Who is Sheamus going to fight now week after week?
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Post by sean™ on Aug 8, 2014 18:07:06 GMT -5
I still find it very weird that they have yet to refer to him by his real name or update the original release announcement with it. Not to mention this has the be the first time they have made a seperate social media posting in response to a release vs. announcing it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 18:07:44 GMT -5
Who is Sheamus going to fight now week after week? Cesaro
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Post by sean™ on Aug 8, 2014 18:08:44 GMT -5
I am not starting an argument here, but how can people say he was good in the ring? Can anyone give me five matches that you would class as 5*, a plus or however you want to score them. To me he was a guy who went out there and did the bare minimum each time I saw him or if he was not doing that then he was doing his best, but his best simply was not that great. You reall cannot blame the wwe on this one they gave him more than enough chances In big angles, mic time and ring time. But he could not get over because at the end of nether day he was just dull as hell. Again not looking to start an argument, but he is one wrestler I just do not understand how people say is great. I enjoyed his matches with Big Show, Punk, Cena, Ziggler, Mysterio, and the WM one with Edge. To each their own.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2014 18:09:23 GMT -5
I enjoyed his early work. When he was presented as this rich Mexican Guy who came out in exotic cars, I was interested. But I feel like his character suffered from the failed split of Ricardo and Del Rio. If they had waited, and played it out right, Ricardo could have become a good underdog luchadore in the mid card, while Alberto would have gotten major heat and remained a main eventer.
I don't know, I could be wrong, but that's my opinion.
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