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Post by Quanthor on Jan 2, 2015 18:57:43 GMT -5
Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about...
Miss State and Texas A&M had very similar schedules. They both played four teams that were non division one schools(way too many IMO) with a total crap out of conference schedule. When they played each other A&M was ranked 6th and only played 1 ranked opponent who was South Carolina that started the year ranked #9 and finished 6-6 with 3 of those wins against non division 1 schools. Should have never been ranked. Because they were ranked A&M shot up the board from #21 to #9 and finished unranked. Miss state was ranked #12th at the time they played A&M. They were unranked(if you can believe that) to start the year until they beat the #8 team LSU(same conference). Unranked to #12 is a hell of a leap for only beating one division 1 school but whatever. So now you have two schools who pretty much did nothing in hindsight(it's this way every year in the SEC) but because all these SEC teams are ranked and ranked so highly they are awarded a much easier path than any other conference. After Miss State beat A&M they catapulted to #3.
It's a joke. No division 1 school should play more than 2 against a non division 1 school. It pads the win total and gives them a much easier path to a bowl. If they get to a bowl the conference gets money. The SEC knows this, that's why don't bother scheduling stronger out of conference games.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 2, 2015 19:52:51 GMT -5
Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about... Miss State and Texas A&M had very similar schedules. They both played four teams that were non division one schools(way too many IMO) with a total crap out of conference schedule. When they played each other A&M was ranked 6th and only played 1 ranked opponent who was South Carolina that started the year ranked #9 and finished 6-6 with 3 of those wins against non division 1 schools. Should have never been ranked. Because they were ranked A&M shot up the board from #21 to #9 and finished unranked. Miss state was ranked #12th at the time they played A&M. They were unranked(if you can believe that) to start the year until they beat the #8 team LSU(same conference). Unranked to #12 is a hell of a leap for only beating one division 1 school but whatever. So now you have two schools who pretty much did nothing in hindsight(it's this way every year in the SEC) but because all these SEC teams are ranked and ranked so highly they are awarded a much easier path than any other conference. After Miss State beat A&M they catapulted to #3. It's a joke. No division 1 school should play more than 2 against a non division 1 school. It pads the win total and gives them a much easier path to a bowl. If they get to a bowl the conference gets money. The SEC knows this, that's why don't bother scheduling stronger out of conference games. I understand what you're saying and Im not trying to be argumentative or defensive.....I think the problem is people take too much faith into early polls. I tell people all the time to "let it play out" and it usually does come out like it should, or at least to a point where people are agreeable. Miss St started the season unranked....but are they a 26-35 type football team? I dont personally think so....but they also go to #1, so are they the best team in the Nation? Of course not...but as it played out they fell back down the polls. I think Miss St was ranked like 7th and then got beat by a pretty good Ga Tech team, they'll probably fall between 15-20 in the rankings and that's probably pretty fair for them. South Carolina *should* have never been ranked but pre season rankings are done mostly on last year. As things played out, SoCar eventually fell out. Ive noticed that everyone uses them in the argument but yet nobody fails to mention that Oklahoma was ranked #3 this year. #25 TCU beat #3 Oklahoma and it shot them up the rankings as well but people dont want to argue that point because it isnt the SEC. Dont get me wrong, TCU is a great team and probably should have gotten into the playoffs this year but I also understand why they didnt as well. Like I said, there's a lot of bias against the SEC from people that feel the media is bias towards the SEC but if most people really do some digging and look, most top schools in the big 5 conferences do exactly what the big schools in the SEC do.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 13, 2015 1:19:55 GMT -5
This is the best night of my life. I had tears streaming down my face and my voice is gone from screaming and singing. So proud of my team and my home
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Post by jnavo217 on Jan 13, 2015 3:25:55 GMT -5
This is the best night of my life. I had years streaming down my face and my voice is gone from screaming and singing. So proud of my team and my home I love this... Proud alumni... Best moment of my life!!!!! BUCKEYES!!!!
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Post by A-Rob on Jan 14, 2015 21:25:11 GMT -5
congrats to Ohio State and it appears that none of the underclassmen are declaring so they should be a force next year
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 14, 2015 22:54:09 GMT -5
The QB situation sucks because all 3 guys are so great. I don't want to see any leave, but I'd hate for them to not get playing time. JT's young, so he'll be fine sitting a year waiting for Braxton to leave, but Cardales in a worse situation. He stays at OSU, he won't get to play, he transfers, he'll have to sit out, he goes to the NFL, he'll miss out on getting more college experience (but will at least collect a paycheck).
I really don't want to see him go after what he just gave us, but sitting on an NFL bench under an experienced QB like Roethlisberger and hopefully getting to play in a few years might be his best option.
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Post by Nivro™ on Jan 14, 2015 23:02:38 GMT -5
The QB situation sucks because all 3 guys are so great. I don't want to see any leave, but I'd hate for them to not get playing time. JT's young, so he'll be fine sitting a year waiting for Braxton to leave, but Cardales in a worse situation. He stays at OSU, he won't get to play, he transfers, he'll have to sit out, he goes to the NFL, he'll miss out on getting more college experience (but will at least collect a paycheck). I really don't want to see him go after what he just gave us, but sitting on an NFL bench under an experienced QB like Roethlisberger and hopefully getting to play in a few years might be his best option. The situation is really easy to fix its just whether Urban as the grapes to do it. You tell Braxton he can transfer if he wants and wish him well, OR you can move him to WR. In all honesty, Braxton isnt going to be a QB at the next level. He's a good college QB but that doesnt always translate into the NFL. He has the athletic ability and the shiftyness in open space to be a great WR in college and possibly even in the NFL. That's the first step I make. The next step is going to Barrett and telling him that if he wants to leave he's welcome to but Cardale is going to be the starter. They want Barrett to stay on as a backup (he'll only be a redshirt Soph) and then take over in 2016 as the Starter as Cardale will more then likely leave after his Junior year next year. The only concerns OSU really has is that they can rack up as many wins and titles as possible before Harbaugh starts to steam roll them!
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 15, 2015 13:03:33 GMT -5
Yeah, if Braxton would move that'd solve everything. He kind of has that Manziel ability to make ridiculous plays out of nowhere, but he always has had problems doing simple 10 yard passes. Plus he's injury prone. I always liked Guiton over him.
But considering the amount of OSU themed ink he has, I don't think he wants to go unless it's absolutely necessary.
That way Cardale could start, JT could bide his time until the 2016 season, and Braxton would still be a Buckeye.
But Cardale is giving a press conference today in Cleveland. The fact that it's there and not Columbus might be telling...
Or he could buy himself time by declaring, then he has 3 days to retract if he wants.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 15, 2015 17:07:40 GMT -5
He came to play school!
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 16, 2015 14:58:54 GMT -5
Joe Pa's 111 removed wins given back. Can't say I saw that coming.
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Post by Boy Wonder on Jan 16, 2015 18:44:13 GMT -5
It was a knee jerk to take them away. The only time wins should be vacated is when a team has an advantage that they shouldn't have. We can debate Joe's actions all day, but it doesn't change that he won all of those games.
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 16, 2015 18:58:48 GMT -5
It was a knee jerk to take them away. The only time wins should be vacated is when a team has an advantage that they shouldn't have. We can debate Joe's actions all day, but it doesn't change that he won all of those games. That's kind of the way I looked at it. By all means, whatever side of the fence you're on about that whole situation is your own personal opinions. Wins, especially something so trivial in the grand scheme of that terrible situation, wouldn't have even been on my mind if I was the NCAA.
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Post by Jean-Ralphio on Jan 17, 2015 11:45:16 GMT -5
I dunno what is a bigger joke of an institution, the NCAA or Penn State.
Swear to God they'll put the statue up soon too. Listening to Penn State cult members yesterday was sickening.
Sickening
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Post by Happy Pizza on Jan 17, 2015 18:55:19 GMT -5
Penn State alum here. Forget wins getting restored, I'm still irrationally bitter over the officials ing us out of a win against Ohio State this year. Vintage Urban Meyer bias!
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Post by bad guy™ on Jan 17, 2015 18:59:43 GMT -5
Penn State alum here. Forget wins getting restored, I'm still irrationally bitter over the officials ing us out of a win against Ohio State this year. Vintage Urban Meyer bias! Didn't know you graduated already Pizza. Congrats.
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Post by A-Rob on Jan 19, 2015 2:34:43 GMT -5
Lane Kiffen is rumored to be the new 49ers OC, lol
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