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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:08:38 GMT -5
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Post by Colter on Aug 18, 2014 0:11:35 GMT -5
You didn't even pay me for it, Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 0:19:53 GMT -5
You didn't even pay me for it, Chryst.
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Post by saintpatrick33 on Aug 18, 2014 0:26:48 GMT -5
I learned very early on money was freedom from all the crap in this world so I worked 80 plus hours a week and 5 times worked 89 , 84 , 84 and 79 days in a row without a off day and so many in the 70s and 60s I stopped keeping track .
I also invested very well and safe in the Ronnie Reagan 80s with long term cds at 16 plus % and I retired a few years ago at age 37 and the funny thing is if I tried to do this today I couldnt because most places rather pay 3 bags of crap minimum wage then pay one great worker a fair wage so make while your young guys and never stop believing EVER !
I really dont think the answer is a legitimate one for myself as I had a goal and accomplished it and I lead a frugal but a happy life , my life , the life I chose .
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Aug 18, 2014 5:42:29 GMT -5
Actually, people with empty souls are the ones that only crave riches and material things. A person with a soul prefers to fill their emotional necessities, like family, children, friendships, etc.
Money is important and I respect it, but I won't sell my soul for the extras I don't need.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Aug 18, 2014 5:57:03 GMT -5
I'm not sure I have a void in my soul. I don't crave mass amounts of money although it would be a fun experience. However I do like being able comfortably buy a $300 pair of jeans or $500 pair of sunglasses without worrying if I'm going to have enough for food, bills etc.
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Post by Cooperman on Aug 18, 2014 6:35:59 GMT -5
Money doesn't fill the void in my soul, but it allows me to afford the things that do. Exactly. Money is REALLY important to me, but I wouldn't sell out for it.
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Post by T R W on Aug 18, 2014 8:35:21 GMT -5
I believe Jesus Christ once said, "Mo money, mo problems."
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 9:52:41 GMT -5
not at all. Money is nice to have but it still wouldn't "complete" me. At this point in life, I have no idea what would. I still have this "hole" in the middle of my body that nothing, so far, has made it go away. I've been a wrestler, a manager, headlined a PPV in Mexico, been on TV, been in a movie, am a well known stage actor in Chicago, had authors and news anchors praise my "acting", slept with many beautiful women, had loves of my life, family, even money, and friends, I've travelled, I've lived a great life and also have had many set backs, I even have this seven year old beautiful little girl who calls me daddy, and none of that has made this feeling go away. I do wonder what ever would or could. So yeah, a million bucks would be nice but it wouldn't complete me at all.
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Post by Yambag Jones on Aug 18, 2014 10:02:50 GMT -5
Nope. Mo' money, mo' problems.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 10:37:31 GMT -5
Personally I'd rather be miserable with 20 million in the bank, than be miserable with nothing.
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Post by Nivro™ on Aug 18, 2014 10:52:20 GMT -5
Money is the root of all wealth
-Ted DiBiase 1990
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 11:22:35 GMT -5
The ones who say money can't buy happiness are the ones that don't have to worry about where their next meal comes from or which bill they'll put off paying this month. I already acknowledged this in my post. I know money can buy happiness, look at our figure collections. I'm questioning human thinking in regards to greed & a desire for unjustified luxury. you are making several assumptions about greed & desire being present & about the definition of unjustified luxuries...so here's my take on the subject 1. We can never truly solidify where an 'unjustified luxury' begins. While you could easily state that a Bentley falls into that category, the argument could be made that cable television, smart phones, or any form of enjoyment beyond basic living is unjustified. The argument could also be made for the opposing view. 2. Justification can be created in any instance. If someone that makes $10/hr buys an X-Box 1 with games, potentially, that could be a higher percentage of their income spent than if a billionaire purchases a Bentley. Which is worse? If the Bentley is cherished & taken care of, does that create a justification? That's a viable argument. It's human nature to justify our personal actions. Even if it's "I know it's crazy & far too expensive......there will always be a "BUT" that follows. 3. As far as greed & desires connection to luxuries...they don't necessarily have to go together. Is it greedy to purchase a luxury, that some would see as unjustifiable, if it's for someone else? An engagement ring can cost anywhere from $0 to several million. If the thought behind the gift is love, could it ever be unjustifiable? If $10 million is unjustified, then is $10,000? $1,000? The point is that regardless of the amount & even if it is unjustifiable...that doesn't necessarily mean that there is greed or desire involved -- it could just be someone (with the means) willing to overpay for the perfect expression of love & devotion - in an unselfish act in many instances. 4. Unjustified Luxuries can bring good to the world. If someone spends money on a luxury, it can represent at least three things. A. It can represent money being put back into the economy, which will be a positive with a chain of events. B. It can represent opportunity & hope for those trying to better themselves. They may see luxuries & it motivate them to do well financially -- again, helping the economy through a chain of events. C. It can represent the idea that people will see how unimportant those luxuries are & cherish what's truly important in life & be more careful with money. *** With regard to the way people think (following your assumptions), I think it's ok for someone to work hard & indulge in luxuries that come with their achievements. Everyone has different values for what's important. I've spent a lot of money on luxuries that are only justifiable in my eyes & possibly a select few. For me, that means that others should be allowed to choose their own luxuries as well & not be judged by me for their choices. If Ben Affleck works hard to make a great film (art) & decides to put his children in a great private school that costs more over their educational lifespan than any house I could ever afford -- that's still justifiable. Even if someone wins the lottery, I'm fine with that because it represents hope. If I won the lottery (I don't play it), I'd give to & work with charities - but it'd feel somewhat like an obligation. It would feel like I needed to make sure I was a better person out of that money. I would be far more inclined to make a difference than if working a 9 to 5. Even still, I'd think others donating $1 were more important than my millions donated. I would feel that my time would be what's important to the charities & not all about the money. In that instance, even giving millions to charities could be argued as unjustifiable, depending on how wisely they spent the money.
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Post by Captain Charisma on Aug 18, 2014 11:27:08 GMT -5
for me, money has proven to be key in order to fulfil and sustain my ambitions in life.
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Post by Tim of thee on Aug 18, 2014 11:33:59 GMT -5
Financial stability is a huge part of my happiness. Being able to support my needs and hobbies fulfills my soul deeply.
Without having financial stability, I wouldn't be able to travel, a hobby I thoroughly enjoy. I wouldn't be able to have those experiences which shape my overall outlook of how the world works.
But there are also other things that fulfill me, like the love of my family and friends, a nice day of beautiful weather, the poetry of our world, etc.
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Post by Random Weddle on Aug 18, 2014 16:53:25 GMT -5
It can help, but I don't believe it ultimately buys happiness. Sure it could buy me many material things, but it couldn't buy me what I really desire.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 17:08:33 GMT -5
Why do we wish to be obscenely rich? Because we wanna eat whatever and whenever we want and live wherever we want and own whatever we want and do whatever we want.
People think of money too deeply. Money isn't some religious or philosophical thing that should be thought and debated about. Money is something that you need, if you wanna admit it or not, to live the way you want to and to free yourself of having to worry about stuff that money provides you that you wouldn't have otherwise.
People that are all "WELL I DON'T NEED MONEY!" are completely full of horse piss.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 17:22:46 GMT -5
Not many things in my life make me happy. Money affords at least half of those things. So yeah, it fills some holes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 19:01:13 GMT -5
Money doesn't buy happiness... But it sure as F*CK makes things easier.
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