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Post by deskjet on Aug 18, 2014 17:00:54 GMT -5
good, he's an overrated blow hard
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Aug 18, 2014 17:40:51 GMT -5
I think its bullcrap. I was at the show tonight and here are some points of interest that each person can decide for themselves how to interpret. 1. Bully and Velvet NO SHOWED Friday night's Indiana, PA house show. They joined the tour on Saturday in Washington, PA. 2. During the backstage pass, TNA setup tables backstage for the wrestler's to sign at. Each wrestler walked up, took a spot. Dudleys came out last. Storm walked to the first table and started to sign. Bully walked up and told Storm that this was their table and he needed to take a different one. Storm walked away shaking his head. Dudleys signed for a kid and then me. Bully then told security to make sure and tell everyone they aint signing no WWE crap. He said he doesnt even want to see it on the table. 3. In the main event, Bully took the mic. and put Eddie Edwards over. He said that if the Dudleys were gonna pass the torch, the Wolves would be who they would want to pass the torch to. Talked about how Wolves are what this business is about and they are the best tag team in the world today, etc. He thanked the crowd and left. 4. Bully Ray and Devon are scheduled for the HOF this year at BFG. 5. Dudleys, Hardys and Wolves WERE scheduled for a TLC/ladder match at BFG for the tag titles. I cant say for certain that it isnt true. Bully is a prick. I dont think he would really give a heart warming goodbye speech if he was leaving. So that shouldnt factor in. As far as going to WWE.....bwahahahahah!!! What the would WWE want him? The ONLY reason to have Bully or Bubba is to bring him AND Devon back. WWE aint gonna bring Bully and no Devon. Bully's rise to power in TNA has been because he has been assisting in booking. He is a lazy worker that has leaned on his power position to get himself a better spot on the card. A lazy worker who dropped 100 pounds and got in the best shape of his life for a character change. Makes sense. And the fact that he was the most over heel in the company and one of the best in pro wrestling at the time probably played a factor in his spot on the card. Exactly. Some people just feel a certain way and they think they're right.
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 18, 2014 17:46:49 GMT -5
WWE won't take a Bully
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2014 17:54:40 GMT -5
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Post by JC Motors on Aug 18, 2014 17:58:38 GMT -5
Well he should be a Star then
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Post by King Silva on Aug 18, 2014 18:35:52 GMT -5
D'Von...Get the tables!!!! Mattel...Get the figures!!! Pretty much. Eventually we need to have a reunion between Team 3D, the Hardys, and Edge and Christian. Of course they can't wrestle again due to Edge's retirement but it would still be a great moment.
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Post by Ryan81398 on Aug 18, 2014 19:28:09 GMT -5
The only way I could see the 6 of them being in a match again together is if it was 6-on-6 and the only thing Edge did was hit a Spear then pin.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 19, 2014 1:26:55 GMT -5
I think its bullcrap. I was at the show tonight and here are some points of interest that each person can decide for themselves how to interpret. 1. Bully and Velvet NO SHOWED Friday night's Indiana, PA house show. They joined the tour on Saturday in Washington, PA. 2. During the backstage pass, TNA setup tables backstage for the wrestler's to sign at. Each wrestler walked up, took a spot. Dudleys came out last. Storm walked to the first table and started to sign. Bully walked up and told Storm that this was their table and he needed to take a different one. Storm walked away shaking his head. Dudleys signed for a kid and then me. Bully then told security to make sure and tell everyone they aint signing no WWE crap. He said he doesnt even want to see it on the table. 3. In the main event, Bully took the mic. and put Eddie Edwards over. He said that if the Dudleys were gonna pass the torch, the Wolves would be who they would want to pass the torch to. Talked about how Wolves are what this business is about and they are the best tag team in the world today, etc. He thanked the crowd and left. 4. Bully Ray and Devon are scheduled for the HOF this year at BFG. 5. Dudleys, Hardys and Wolves WERE scheduled for a TLC/ladder match at BFG for the tag titles. I cant say for certain that it isnt true. Bully is a prick. I dont think he would really give a heart warming goodbye speech if he was leaving. So that shouldnt factor in. As far as going to WWE.....bwahahahahah!!! What the would WWE want him? The ONLY reason to have Bully or Bubba is to bring him AND Devon back. WWE aint gonna bring Bully and no Devon. Bully's rise to power in TNA has been because he has been assisting in booking. He is a lazy worker that has leaned on his power position to get himself a better spot on the card. A lazy worker who dropped 100 pounds and got in the best shape of his life for a character change. Makes sense. And the fact that he was the most over heel in the company and one of the best in pro wrestling at the time probably played a factor in his spot on the card. Ok. He dropped 100lbs. Yet....still a lazy worker. RVD is in fantastic shape....also a lazy worker. Most over heel in the company? Debatable.....but definitely a fair point. Doesnt discredit my position that he used his power to elevate his position on the card. Remember, he did THAT before he was "most over heel in the company". good, he's an overrated blow hard Agreed A lazy worker who dropped 100 pounds and got in the best shape of his life for a character change. Makes sense. And the fact that he was the most over heel in the company and one of the best in pro wrestling at the time probably played a factor in his spot on the card. Exactly. Some people just feel a certain way and they think they're right. Its what makes things interesting. If everyone agreed with me on WFigs....you think I would keep posting on WFigs. I like seeing, hearing and viewing differing opinions. Like the poster from the first quote.....he raises a valid point that Bully eventually got really over as a heel. He hasnt changed my opinion, but he raised a valid point. I have been to countless, countless TNA house shows, watched the matches on Impact and PPV. And I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt who is and who is NOT a lazy worker. Doesnt mean they dont have flashes of brilliance. Doesnt mean that they cant put on a 5 star match. It means that when the spotlight is off or they arent happy with their current storyline, positioning, etc.....they begin to mail it in. For instance, in Hagerstown....Bully mailed it in. Instead of him and Devon doing their gimmick, they decided to steal from Daniel Bryan on several occasions. Thats lazy. Team 3D has a lot of their own material, a gimmick and were pretty over with the crowd that night. The match has a standard routine piece. Nothing fancy. It was poorly paced and saw a lot of going through the motions. That is laziness. I dont expect them to blow their loads, but I expect them to put some original thought, use their own material....nothing sadder than blatantly stealing DB from WWE, and give me 100% effort. I dont need a table spot. I dont need a hardcore war. I dont need anyone killing themselves. But I do need to see effort. I need to see someone who cares. In that very main event, Mr. Anderson was in it. He did nothing death defying, but he didnt mail it in. He went out there and worked. He put effort into it. He interacted with the crowd and had a good time with it. He came to entertain and was clearly one of the most entertaining portions of the show. Gunner, while I personally didnt care for it, also went out there and interacted with the crowd. He tried, too hard IMO, to put the USA gimmick to work. But he also decided to parody Hacksaw Jim Duggan by walking around with the America flag and going HOOOOOO!!! followed by his tongue sticking out and his thumb up. James Storm, who is someone that I have never seen mail it in, sold hard for Gunner and when the crowd started cheering for Storm, Storm grabbed a mic, got the heat and put Gunner over. THATS what each paying fan deserves to get.
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Post by K5 on Aug 19, 2014 1:57:13 GMT -5
Phenomenal work TNA, push him to the top ala AJ and then let his contract expire. this just nails it, it's actually funny at this point.
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Post by tg11 on Aug 19, 2014 7:31:58 GMT -5
Well if TNA does lose Bully Ray, they will lose a locker room leader but also Bully Ray ever since he has stepped foot into TNA he has pretty much done it all in his TNA career so what more is there left for him to do honestly? Multiple-time TNA Tag Team Champion but also a Tag Team Champion in ECW and in WWE but also a 2-time TNA World Heavyweight Champion I mean the man is going into the TNA Hall of Fame anyways so if he is leaving the company then all you can really say is good luck to him wherever he ends up next
Most likely ROH or GFW, but if he does end up back in WWE I wonder if he will still have his Bully Ray gimmick? Or if Devon leaves with Bully Ray and they end up back in WWE together then The Dudley Boyz going back to the WWE for one last run does actually make plausible sense
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2014 15:29:03 GMT -5
LOL @ you if you seriously think Bubba Ray Dudley is going to go to ROH.
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Post by dod0411 on Aug 19, 2014 22:46:42 GMT -5
If they come in as Dudleys that would be cool. But if they come in as singles I'll pass
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Aug 19, 2014 23:25:03 GMT -5
LOL @ you if you seriously think Bubba Ray Dudley is going to go to ROH. Doesn't ROH have a new vacancy for a fat guy who can do hardcore matches?
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Aug 20, 2014 0:06:46 GMT -5
LOL @ you if you seriously think Bubba Ray Dudley is going to go to ROH. Beat me to it. Maybe NJPW?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 1:31:15 GMT -5
LOL @ you if you seriously think Bubba Ray Dudley is going to go to ROH. Beat me to it. Maybe NJPW? Nah, CMLL.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 20, 2014 4:30:29 GMT -5
LOL @ you if you seriously think Bubba Ray Dudley is going to go to ROH. Beat me to it. Maybe NJPW? To be fair NJPW and ROH have had no problem bringing in recently released WWE and TNA talent the past 3 or so years...... Rhyno Matt Hardy Lance Hoyt Davey Boy Jr. WGTT Gallows Etc.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 11:47:42 GMT -5
Beat me to it. Maybe NJPW? To be fair NJPW and ROH have had no problem bringing in recently released WWE and TNA talent the past 3 or so years...... Rhyno Matt Hardy Lance Hoyt Davey Boy Jr. WGTT Gallows Etc. Rhino hasn't worked on a legit New Japan show since 2007 or 2008 (the NJ "Invasion" shows were just JAPW shows with New Japan talent). Bully probably costs far more than ROH would be willing to pay, plus he's bigger than almost the entire roster plus he goes against the whole "trying to establish a national television product with a young roster" thing ROH is trying to accomplish now, Matt Hardy notwithstanding. The other guys on the list were booked in New Japan because Jado and Gedo love them some WWE guys. Bully's spent the last decade pretty much in TNA, which to New Japan is like coming off a relationship with a girl with herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and a really busted face.
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 20, 2014 13:47:13 GMT -5
To be fair NJPW and ROH have had no problem bringing in recently released WWE and TNA talent the past 3 or so years...... Rhyno Matt Hardy Lance Hoyt Davey Boy Jr. WGTT Gallows Etc. Rhino hasn't worked on a legit New Japan show since 2007 or 2008 (the NJ "Invasion" shows were just JAPW shows with New Japan talent). Bully probably costs far more than ROH would be willing to pay, plus he's bigger than almost the entire roster plus he goes against the whole "trying to establish a national television product with a young roster" thing ROH is trying to accomplish now, Matt Hardy notwithstanding. The other guys on the list were booked in New Japan because Jado and Gedo love them some WWE guys. Bully's spent the last decade pretty much in TNA, which to New Japan is like coming off a relationship with a girl with herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and a really busted face. If they took Jarrett and D'Amore for no good reason they would certainly shell out the money for Bully even if they aren't paying Jarrett much if anything due to the cross promotion. Bully and Devon were pretty over their short stints with NJPW. And like you said Jado and Gedo have a hard on for american talent. I could very well see Bully go to NJPW and do what Hansen did in the 80's and 90's. Get the respect he'll never get in the states outside of smaller promotions. And now that I think of it Bully has been channeling his inner Hansen the past year or so even borrowing his trademark taunt. I could very well see it happening. Just look what they do with AJ so quickly. Its NJPW, WWE or the indies for Bully with WWE being the least likely and GFW being considered an Indy for the time being. And i don't think Bully is going to want to work a small promotion.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 13:57:23 GMT -5
Rhino hasn't worked on a legit New Japan show since 2007 or 2008 (the NJ "Invasion" shows were just JAPW shows with New Japan talent). Bully probably costs far more than ROH would be willing to pay, plus he's bigger than almost the entire roster plus he goes against the whole "trying to establish a national television product with a young roster" thing ROH is trying to accomplish now, Matt Hardy notwithstanding. The other guys on the list were booked in New Japan because Jado and Gedo love them some WWE guys. Bully's spent the last decade pretty much in TNA, which to New Japan is like coming off a relationship with a girl with herpes, chlamydia, gonorrhea and a really busted face. If they took Jarrett and D'Amore for no good reason they would certainly shell out the money for Bully even if they aren't paying Jarrett much if anything due to the cross promotion. Bully and Devon were pretty over their short stints with NJPW. And like you said Jado and Gedo have a hard on for american talent. I could very well see Bully go to NJPW and do what Hansen did in the 80's and 90's. Get the respect he'll never get in the states outside of smaller promotions. And now that I think of it Bully has been channeling his inner Hansen the past year or so even borrowing his trademark taunt. I could very well see it happening. Just look what they do with AJ so quickly. Its NJPW, WWE or the indies for Bully with WWE being the least likely and GFW being considered an Indy for the time being. And i don't think Bully is going to want to work a small promotion. Well the reason they have Jarrett on board is that they want to expand globally and pairing with Jeff Jarrett somehow furthers that goal. There's not a whole lot of spots left in New Japan and they're close to burning out the fans on the Bullet Club as it is, adding yet another American to an already overloaded gaijin roster wouldn't be the best idea right now. Then again, it's Jado and Gedo and those two doing things logically is something that never really happens so I guess we should expect Bully vs. Nakamura at the Tokyo Dome then, eh?
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Aug 20, 2014 14:17:38 GMT -5
If they took Jarrett and D'Amore for no good reason they would certainly shell out the money for Bully even if they aren't paying Jarrett much if anything due to the cross promotion. Bully and Devon were pretty over their short stints with NJPW. And like you said Jado and Gedo have a hard on for american talent. I could very well see Bully go to NJPW and do what Hansen did in the 80's and 90's. Get the respect he'll never get in the states outside of smaller promotions. And now that I think of it Bully has been channeling his inner Hansen the past year or so even borrowing his trademark taunt. I could very well see it happening. Just look what they do with AJ so quickly. Its NJPW, WWE or the indies for Bully with WWE being the least likely and GFW being considered an Indy for the time being. And i don't think Bully is going to want to work a small promotion. Well the reason they have Jarrett on board is that they want to expand globally and pairing with Jeff Jarrett somehow furthers that goal. There's not a whole lot of spots left in New Japan and they're close to burning out the fans on the Bullet Club as it is, adding yet another American to an already overloaded gaijin roster wouldn't be the best idea right now. Then again, it's Jado and Gedo and those two doing things logically is something that never really happens so I guess we should expect Bully vs. Nakamura at the Tokyo Dome then, eh? Oh I know completely that that's why Jarrett was brought in. Which to me doesn't help NJPW expand much at all. If they want to go global (or grow their american fan-base like i suspect) they aren't going to achieve it unless they add an English commentary team and make the shows available to us in some other way now that u stream is gone. That would be a start. Not pairing with a promotion we still know all about. And I would keep Bully FAR away from Bullet Club. Although I do for some odd reason think that Bully, Anderson and Gallows would be great together. Personally I would bring in Bully and can Shelton and Tonga maybe someone else too. I agree there is too many Gaijin stars right now. But sadly it doesn't look like they would get rid of any of them. Especially after how they booked someone like Shelton in G1. That was baffling to me. Either way if I can't have a Bully/Heyman pairing in the WWE then I don't want Bully anywhere but NJPW. I feel like he would add to the product like AJ and less like Shelton, Archer, DBS Jr, Tonga, etc.
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