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Post by Sleazyness on Aug 20, 2014 18:00:25 GMT -5
Source: www.lordsofpain.net---------------------------------------------- First off, is Cena not already over? Second, if they wanted to make him look tough and "not giving up", why not have Lesnar introduce a new submission hold which would lead to Cena NOT GIVING UP, but passing out forcing the match to be over? Also, looks like Lesnar is going to "Bring it" via prerecorded videos.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Aug 20, 2014 18:11:49 GMT -5
They already done the passing out finish with Swagger and Rusev. No need to have the same finish twice in one night.
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Post by Sleazyness on Aug 20, 2014 18:17:33 GMT -5
They already done the passing out finish with Swagger and Rusev. No need to have the same finish twice in one night. They should have never had Swagger pass out in the first place. He did all he could and looked strong regardless of that ending. The result would have been the same. He would have still been feeling like crap and that he let everyone down. I personally think it would have made more sense. Cena passing out could have made him at least look tough because he got demolished that whole match. It was pretty much "This match ends when I want it too" rather than him actually putting up a fight.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 18:34:02 GMT -5
Cena looked tough because he took a beating that pretty much nobody on this planet would elect to be on the receiving end of. Cena passing out doesn't accomplish the same thing as Lesnar smashing him for sixteen minutes, systematically destroying him and showing the WWE fans that their top star couldn't do anything to stop the onslaught. Lesnar's "this will end when I want it to, you can't hurt me" act doesn't come off as well if he makes the guy pass out. There's no reason for his character to do it. He's not about that, he wants his opponents to suffer and remember the beating he gave them.
It doesn't have the same shock factor plus the whole pass out finish was needed for Rusev vs. Swagger.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 18:37:17 GMT -5
Hope we get more piss promos from Lesnar. I love those.
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Post by sitruC on Aug 20, 2014 18:38:40 GMT -5
I think they mean over as in over in the feud since people are only really praising Cena.
But I thought the match was great, worked for both guys.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 20, 2014 18:46:26 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely.
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Post by ZT on Aug 20, 2014 18:50:44 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely. Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania.
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Post by marino13 on Aug 20, 2014 18:52:09 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely. Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Exactly the way I see it panning out.
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Post by revolution on Aug 20, 2014 18:54:34 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely. Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Booooo
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Post by awesomeallamerican on Aug 20, 2014 18:56:56 GMT -5
Who wrote that report? Captain Obvious? Glad they told me Lesnar winning in dominant fashion was to make him look dominant. How ever would I have reached that conclusion on my own?
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 20, 2014 19:34:53 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely. Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Cena. Night of Champions. WWE truly wants John Cena to stay THE guy. Best possible way is to let him get the win back on Brock, making 2-1 for the series.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 19:39:36 GMT -5
Get Cena over. Lol.
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Post by Sleazyness on Aug 20, 2014 19:40:52 GMT -5
Cena looked tough because he took a beating that pretty much nobody on this planet would elect to be on the receiving end of. Cena passing out doesn't accomplish the same thing as Lesnar smashing him for sixteen minutes, systematically destroying him and showing the WWE fans that their top star couldn't do anything to stop the onslaught. Lesnar's "this will end when I want it to, you can't hurt me" act doesn't come off as well if he makes the guy pass out. There's no reason for his character to do it. He's not about that, he wants his opponents to suffer and remember the beating he gave them. It doesn't have the same shock factor plus the whole pass out finish was needed for Rusev vs. Swagger. I disagree with you. Cena never gives up. That's his slogan right? Well have him get destroyed and have him kick out to where he still has that never give up thing to him, but have him pass out. It accomplishes a lot actually. He takes a beating and continues to kick out and what not, but passes out. That makes Cena look strong and if you disagree, that's crazy. Cena really didn't have a choice, he had to defend that title and he wasn't going to refuse because he never gives up. Also, I'm sure he's had some matches prior to this one. So I don't think that whole intimidation thing really doesn't make sense to me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2014 20:10:17 GMT -5
Cena looked tough because he took a beating that pretty much nobody on this planet would elect to be on the receiving end of. Cena passing out doesn't accomplish the same thing as Lesnar smashing him for sixteen minutes, systematically destroying him and showing the WWE fans that their top star couldn't do anything to stop the onslaught. Lesnar's "this will end when I want it to, you can't hurt me" act doesn't come off as well if he makes the guy pass out. There's no reason for his character to do it. He's not about that, he wants his opponents to suffer and remember the beating he gave them. It doesn't have the same shock factor plus the whole pass out finish was needed for Rusev vs. Swagger. I disagree with you. Cena never gives up. That's his slogan right? Well have him get destroyed and have him kick out to where he still has that never give up thing to him, but have him pass out. It accomplishes a lot actually. He takes a beating and continues to kick out and what not, but passes out. That makes Cena look strong and if you disagree, that's crazy. Cena really didn't have a choice, he had to defend that title and he wasn't going to refuse because he never gives up. Also, I'm sure he's had some matches prior to this one. So I don't think that whole intimidation thing really doesn't make sense to me. Uh...he never gave up at SummerSlam either. He lived up to that slogan at SummerSlam. He fought for as long as he could until Brock knocked him out and dropped him with the F-Five. Refusing to stay down when the bully keeps handing you your ass on a silver platter makes you look tough. THAT is what "Never Give Up" is about. No matter what Lesnar threw at him, he never quit. It took Lesnar pounding on him after 15 minutes of suplexes, F5s and knees to the body as well as punches to the face to win the match and you know what? Cena NEVER GAVE UP. Cena passing out doesn't signify never giving up anywhere near as much as him never actually giving up despite being given the ass kicking of a lifetime. Him passing out is him showing all of his fans that he let go, albeit not of his own volition, but him passing out means he couldn't find a way. He gave up. As MMA has shown us, refusing to tap out and passing out isn't a sign of toughness it's a sign of stupidity. Going to sleep to prove you're tough doesn't make you look tough, it makes you look like an idiot. What they did with Cena on Sunday night was exactly what they should have done. He takes the beating but keeps trying to find a way to make an opening to show the kids that look up to him that no matter how badly you're beaten or what you're up against, to never quit. Seriously, dude. The match told a VERY simple story. It's not hard to figure this one out.
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Post by Quazimoto on Aug 20, 2014 21:31:34 GMT -5
Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Cena. Night of Champions. WWE truly wants John Cena to stay THE guy. Best possible way is to let him get the win back on Brock, making 2-1 for the series. I gotta say Hell In A Cell is more likely. Night Of Champions will probably end in some sort of draw. Or maybe that's when Lesnar makes Cena pass out to some submission so Cena can claim he never gave up and thus didn't really lose that match and deserves another one. I just can't see them passing up Lesnar vs Cena in Hell In A Cell. Seems too perfectly designed to garner more network buys/renewals not to do it.
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Post by Mox on Aug 20, 2014 21:34:11 GMT -5
Whomever defeats Lesnar next will be a made man. WWE better use it wisely. Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Please god no.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Aug 20, 2014 21:37:42 GMT -5
Roman. Mania. If WWE truly wants Roman to be THE guy, the best possible way to make him is to have him win the Rumble and defeat Brock at Mania. Cena. Night of Champions. WWE truly wants John Cena to stay THE guy. Best possible way is to let him get the win back on Brock, making 2-1 for the series. 2-2 counting Backlash 2003. But I see what you're getting at.
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Post by Rontaro13 on Aug 20, 2014 21:45:50 GMT -5
Cena. Night of Champions. WWE truly wants John Cena to stay THE guy. Best possible way is to let him get the win back on Brock, making 2-1 for the series. 2-2 counting Backlash 2003. But I see what you're getting at. Brock actually has 4 wins against Cena, while Cena has 1. These matches are Brock's 2 other wins. Reading that Brock has taped segments makes me want that championship off of him even more now. The WWE Champion shouldn't be bringing it via video.
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Post by punksnotdead on Aug 20, 2014 22:55:07 GMT -5
Cena. Night of Champions. WWE truly wants John Cena to stay THE guy. Best possible way is to let him get the win back on Brock, making 2-1 for the series. 2-2 counting Backlash 2003. But I see what you're getting at. By WWE logic, 2003 doesn't count. Just like WM17 never happened between HHH and Undertaker when it came time to promote their matches at 27 and 28 haha.
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