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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 9:00:42 GMT -5
The way I see it is this. The Final Revolution want to destroy the company. Whereas our group has banded together to protect the company. And then the other stable in the KKK is essentially there for no takeover purposes but I see it heading towards a Kyzer return. And then you have Dex's sovereignty, which all in all is a stable consisting of one guy.
So that's three stables all with different ideas behind them.
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 27, 2014 10:44:12 GMT -5
The way I see it is this. The Final Revolution want to destroy the company. Whereas our group has banded together to protect the company. And then the other stable in the KKK is essentially there for no takeover purposes but I see it heading towards a Kyzer return. And then you have Dex's sovereignty, which all in all is a stable consisting of one guy. So that's three stables all with different ideas behind them. When did we start planning the stable out Progsy, May-ish? This wasn't just thrown together.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 10:56:08 GMT -5
The way I see it is this. The Final Revolution want to destroy the company. Whereas our group has banded together to protect the company. And then the other stable in the KKK is essentially there for no takeover purposes but I see it heading towards a Kyzer return. And then you have Dex's sovereignty, which all in all is a stable consisting of one guy. So that's three stables all with different ideas behind them. When did we start planning the stable out Progsy, May-ish? This wasn't just thrown together. Around May-ish is correct. Right around the end of SuperBrawl mainly.
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Post by jdfranchise on Aug 27, 2014 11:02:08 GMT -5
Thought so.
Anyway, congrats to the winners. Drakz, Progsy and Nikki <3. Well deserved guys. A lot of great rp's leading up to this.
Schneider, thanks for posting the alternate finish. The match was great and I really enjoyed working this program with you.
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Post by Dex on Aug 27, 2014 15:56:22 GMT -5
The way I see it is this. The Final Revolution want to destroy the company. Whereas our group has banded together to protect the company. And then the other stable in the KKK is essentially there for no takeover purposes but I see it heading towards a Kyzer return. And then you have Dex's sovereignty, which all in all is a stable consisting of one guy. So that's three stables all with different ideas behind them. That's kinda what the Sovereignty is. To be the complete opposite of The Final Revolution.. Anyways, you may have planned this since May, but I think you guys are simply forcing yourself into a storyline. Not the best planning either. Pretend the WFWF is real for a moment, and picture yourself as a fan...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:09:50 GMT -5
The way I see it is this. The Final Revolution want to destroy the company. Whereas our group has banded together to protect the company. And then the other stable in the KKK is essentially there for no takeover purposes but I see it heading towards a Kyzer return. And then you have Dex's sovereignty, which all in all is a stable consisting of one guy. So that's three stables all with different ideas behind them. That's kinda what the Sovereignty is. To be the complete opposite of The Final Revolution.. Anyways, you may have planned this since May, but I think you guys are simply forcing yourself into a storyline. Not the best planning either. Pretend the WFWF is real for a moment, and picture yourself as a fan... I'm pretending to be a fan. I see an established friendship in Josh Dean and Dave Demento, which was showcased on the past show. I also see a friendship between the only two females in the company. Along with the married duo of Josh and Nikki Dean. All four of them friends, obvious by them sharing a locker room, and have one goal in mind: To stop anything happening to the sanctity of the sport of pro wrestling (which just so happens to be JD's main storyline since coming back to the federation). It is a stable that has come together naturally. But please, as I'm looking at this as a fan, I see the guy who was handed the World Championship bring out three unknown entities. Dex, the man who went from being the crazy fallen angel to being a sane human being with guys like Jayson Garrett and Shawn Malakai by his side. And then just a few weeks later, he is opposing Jayson Garrett and has now aligned himself with three unestablished characters. See, that's forcing yourself into a storyline. And we're the ones without good planning?
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Post by Dex on Aug 27, 2014 16:12:46 GMT -5
That's kinda what the Sovereignty is. To be the complete opposite of The Final Revolution.. Anyways, you may have planned this since May, but I think you guys are simply forcing yourself into a storyline. Not the best planning either. Pretend the WFWF is real for a moment, and picture yourself as a fan... I'm pretending to be a fan. I see an established friendship in Josh Dean and Dave Demento, which was showcased on the past show. I also see a friendship between the only two females in the company. Along with the married duo of Josh and Nikki Dean. All four of them friends, obvious by them sharing a locker room, and have one goal in mind: To stop anything happening to the sanctity of the sport of pro wrestling (which just so happens to be JD's main storyline since coming back to the federation). It is a stable that has come together naturally. But please, as I'm looking at this as a fan, I see the guy who was handed the World Championship bring out three unknown entities. Dex, the man who went from being the crazy fallen angel to being a sane human being with guys like Jayson Garrett and Shawn Malakai by his side. And then just a few weeks later, he is opposing Jayson Garrett and has now aligned himself with three unestablished characters. See, that's forcing yourself into a storyline. And we're the ones without good planning? Personal attacks eh? Haha, sad.
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Post by Markw on Aug 27, 2014 16:32:26 GMT -5
God I feel embarrassed to be associated with this argument.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 27, 2014 16:34:39 GMT -5
As if any one or group of individuals here came up with the concept of a stable. God, shut up. What a stupid argument.
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Post by veronicaaaahhhh on Aug 27, 2014 16:36:10 GMT -5
Okay, I'm cutting in before this goes any further. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with multiple stables in a wrestling promotion. Hell, multiple stables and factions was one of the things that made the Attitude Era so much fun... You had DX, The Corporation, The Nation of Domination, The Ministry of Darkness, the JOB Squad, and the Oddities. If I'm not mistaken, Japanese promotions also seem to be fond of having multiple stables. I think a lot of where the issue stems from is the fact that we're so used to seeing how poorly stables have been used in the last decade (at least in the WWE) that a number over two might seem like it's stretching it, when it's really just a matter of conditioning. Most people are used to just seeing only two dominant factions or stables fighting with each other for control, so obviously are going to feel a little iffy about the addition of one or two more, because they'll just think of it as a useless cluster without having been exposed to examples where it's actually worked, well. At the end of the day, we're fantasy wrestling and a lot of what we do here does mimic what we see on TV, but it doesn't necessarily mean we have to follow by convention... I mean, the WFWF itself isn't exactly a conventional fed, fantasy or otherwise.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:40:53 GMT -5
Okay, I'm cutting in before this goes any further. Personally, I don't see anything wrong with multiple stables in a wrestling promotion. Hell, multiple stables and factions was one of the things that made the Attitude Era so much fun... You had DX, The Corporation, The Nation of Domination, The Ministry of Darkness, the JOB Squad, and the Oddities. If I'm not mistaken, Japanese promotions also seem to be fond of having multiple stables. I think a lot of where the issue stems from is the fact that we're so used to seeing how poorly stables have been used in the last decade (at least in the WWE) that a number over two might seem like it's stretching it, when it's really just a matter of conditioning. Most people are used to just seeing only two dominant factions or stables fighting with each other for control, so obviously are going to feel a little iffy about the addition of one or two more, because they'll just think of it as a useless cluster without having been exposed to examples where it's actually worked, well. At the end of the day, we're fantasy wrestling and a lot of what we do here does mimic what we see on TV, but it doesn't necessarily mean we have to follow by convention... I mean, the WFWF itself isn't exactly a conventional fed, fantasy or otherwise. Yeah, New Japan has a boatload of stables and they are the hottest promotion in professional wrestling. They have the Bullet Club, CHAOS, Suzuki-gun, and LAUGHTER7. Is there anything wrong with stables being in a federation? No. Not at all. The thing I like about New Japan is these stables are basically fighting for supremacy and to show that their group is better than the others. Would AJ Styles vs Minoru Suzuki been as interesting to me if it weren't two leaders of their respective stables going at it? Probably not. But it adds to the storytelling. I like stables, hell I love stables. Can't we all just have fun with what seems to be an inevitable stables war?
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Post by Prophet of Ash on Aug 27, 2014 17:08:07 GMT -5
As if any one or group of individuals here came up with the concept of a stable. God, shut up. What a stupid argument.
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Post by Deep Figure Value on Aug 27, 2014 17:35:35 GMT -5
As if any one or group of individuals here came up with the concept of a stable. God, shut up. What a stupid argument. Touché... ...which one of those young men is currently squabbling over who's stepping on whose toes?
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Post by Drakz on Aug 27, 2014 19:25:18 GMT -5
No my stable is the best and most relevant!
#1man&hisdog.
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Post by Dex on Aug 27, 2014 19:29:25 GMT -5
No my stable is the best and most relevant! #1man&hisdog. What about Marlene? I seriously hope that "Marlene and Me" title was a reference to "Marley and Me."
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Post by Drakz on Aug 27, 2014 19:35:13 GMT -5
I seriously hope that "Marlene and Me" title was a reference to "Marley and Me."
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Post by Dex on Aug 27, 2014 19:37:44 GMT -5
I seriously hope that "Marlene and Me" title was a reference to "Marley and Me." So Marlene is going to die at the end with the final scene being spoiled in the introduction?
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Post by Drakz on Aug 27, 2014 19:41:04 GMT -5
Either that or Drakz is going to force Owen Wilson to black up and play Bob Marley in a dramatized feature length biopic.
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Post by bad guy™ on Aug 27, 2014 20:49:50 GMT -5
Either that or Drakz is going to force Owen Wilson to black up and play Bob Marley in a dramatized feature length biopic. Get that idea up on Kickstarter. It shows promise to me.
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Post by Dex on Aug 28, 2014 15:54:20 GMT -5
Either that or Drakz is going to force Owen Wilson to black up and play Bob Marley in a dramatized feature length biopic. Get that idea up on Kickstarter. It shows promise to me.
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