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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 15:34:05 GMT -5
That match you mentioned he had with Taker was the match I remember when I first truly started to like him. Was it 02? It wasn't a match I was thinking of, it was when they met backstage after Cena's debut against Angle. Ah okay, I thought so. I remember he had a match with Taker in 03 I think. Sorry my memories real hazy.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 12, 2014 15:40:55 GMT -5
Ah okay, I thought so. I remember he had a match with Taker in 03 I think. Yeah, they feuded for a bit in 03, when Cena started calling himself the veteran. Undertaker won the PPV match, and the Internet at the time (including me) was all "I HATE YOU Undertaker, burying the young talent, you need to retire!" Orlando Jordan was new and getting a mini-push at the time as Undertaker's rookie friend, which is funny now to think back on.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 12, 2014 16:30:12 GMT -5
Because he's a selfish d*ckhead with way too much creative control. Source? Lemme Guess, Kenny from the Spirit Squad? Try some of the most respected names in the history of the business like Edge and Chris Jericho
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Sept 13, 2014 8:28:47 GMT -5
Cena, Orton, and batista are the reasons I quit watching. I was going through junior high/high school, so i didnt pay attention.
But also because they now had all this great WCW/ECW talent, and werent using them well. Never a fan of big oily guy in trunks. Always more of a Bray/Taker/Road Dogg/mankind type of guy. I want to see the trunks fucc boi get beat down.
They have ran with Cena/Orton/Batista long enough. Good to see Shield and other NXTers moving up compared to where Nexus guys are on the card now
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 8:39:19 GMT -5
Source? Lemme Guess, Kenny from the Spirit Squad? Try some of the most respected names in the history of the business like Edge and Chris Jericho Yeah, because on a podcast they said a spot he wanted to do was stupid? That's the obvious conclusion to draw from that.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 13, 2014 12:35:27 GMT -5
Try some of the most respected names in the history of the business like Edge and Chris Jericho Yeah, because on a podcast they said a spot he wanted to do was stupid? That's the obvious conclusion to draw from that. The fact that he is able to take a main event PPV match and change the result last second ,single handedly is enough I need.
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Sept 13, 2014 12:39:33 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSThe Rock WM28? Daniel Bryan SumerSlam 2013? But regardless that's bull . It took: A HOF, The COO, and 9 NXT superstars to beat Cena. Ok WWE. It's totally fair.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 12:44:07 GMT -5
Yeah, because on a podcast they said a spot he wanted to do was stupid? That's the obvious conclusion to draw from that. The fact that he is able to take a main event PPV match and change the result last second ,single handedly is enough I need. What match you referring to?
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 13, 2014 13:12:32 GMT -5
The fact that he is able to take a main event PPV match and change the result last second ,single handedly is enough I need. What match you referring to? Nexus vs WWE Summerslam I think 2010. Edge and Jericho said it was supposed to come down to those two vs Gabriel and Barrett with the latter winning. Cena apparently changed plans last second and decided he wanted to go over Gabriel and Barrett after taking that DDT to the concrete. And That was pretty much it for the Nexus Exact quote Chris Jericho: "It was Team WWE vs. Team Nexus, and the finish boiled down to [Edge] and [Jericho] in there, but it was Cena against a couple of them. John wanted to do things a certain way and we told him 'you're wrong'. He did it anyways, and it sucked. And then after he came over to us and said 'I should have listened to you, but I wasn't seeing it that way.'" Edge: "I remember. I was like, fine I'm out of the match by that point." Chris Jericho: "He wanted to get DDT'd on the floor by Barrett, then kick out and beat them both. And you and I were like, that's the dumbest thing. That's just throwing it away for no reason." Edge: "They should have gone over because they were so hot." Chris Jericho: "We were fighting for Barrett to go over. And where's Wade Barrett now?"
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Post by #DI-WHY? on Sept 13, 2014 15:06:20 GMT -5
What match you referring to? Nexus vs WWE Summerslam I think 2010. Edge and Jericho said it was supposed to come down to those two vs Gabriel and Barrett with the latter winning. Cena apparently changed plans last second and decided he wanted to go over Gabriel and Barrett after taking that DDT to the concrete. And That was pretty much it for the Nexus Exact quote Chris Jericho: "It was Team WWE vs. Team Nexus, and the finish boiled down to [Edge] and [Jericho] in there, but it was Cena against a couple of them. John wanted to do things a certain way and we told him 'you're wrong'. He did it anyways, and it sucked. And then after he came over to us and said 'I should have listened to you, but I wasn't seeing it that way.'" Edge: "I remember. I was like, fine I'm out of the match by that point." Chris Jericho: "He wanted to get DDT'd on the floor by Barrett, then kick out and beat them both. And you and I were like, that's the dumbest thing. That's just throwing it away for no reason." Edge: "They should have gone over because they were so hot." Chris Jericho: "We were fighting for Barrett to go over. And where's Wade Barrett now?" I never truly believed Cena was a selfish hole until now
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Post by ✖ AJ on Sept 13, 2014 19:15:21 GMT -5
Because Cena is a bad, bad man.
#TerribleJoke
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Post by Rontaro13 on Sept 13, 2014 20:04:08 GMT -5
I honestly can't even think of that many times over the years where Cena has lost at all on Raw/SD (not counting tag matches unless he was the one pinned) I went back and looked Cena hasn't lost a match on TV (not counting PPV) via pinfall or submission since April 29th, 2013. That is absolutely disgusting. Only times Cena has lost cleanly on TV via pinfall or submission since winning the WWE Title - Oct 2009 Raw vs. Triple H - Apr 2013 Raw 6 Man Tag vs. Shield - July 2010 Raw Nexus vs. Cena 6 on 1 Handicap - Apr 2007 Raw vs. Shawn Michaels Yup thats it a grand total of 4 TIMES over almost 10 YEARSJustin Gabriel has pinned Cena cleanly. And even thought this isn't clean, it made Cena look weak since he had to use a chair and it had no effect. But Cena did eventually lose clean to Khali. Skip to 9:50
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 14, 2014 6:31:34 GMT -5
Because he's a selfish d*ckhead with way too much creative control. Yup, that much was obvious from SummerSlam when he squashed Lesnar. Oh wait.
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Post by Joey Cush on Sept 14, 2014 9:01:56 GMT -5
Because he's a selfish d*ckhead with way too much creative control. Yup, that much was obvious from SummerSlam when he squashed Lesnar. Oh wait. Well their first match at Extreme Rules was pretty telling
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 11:42:59 GMT -5
Am I the only one who noticed Lesnar German Suplexed Cena 16 times ie Cenas next title win number?
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 14, 2014 11:49:34 GMT -5
Because he's a selfish d*ckhead with way too much creative control. Yup, that much was obvious from SummerSlam when he squashed Lesnar. Oh wait. Yeah that young up and comer. I'll tell ya. Brock's totally the next big thing. Oh wait
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 14, 2014 11:54:29 GMT -5
Yeah that young up and comer. I'll tell ya. Brock's totally the next big thing. Maybe he would be if Selfish Cena hadn't squashed him at SummerSlam with that damn creative control he's got too much of lol.
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Post by RybackV1 on Sept 14, 2014 11:55:59 GMT -5
Yeah that young up and comer. I'll tell ya. Brock's totally the next big thing. Maybe he would be if Selfish Cena hadn't squashed him at SummerSlam with that damn creative control he's got too much of lol. Be honest though do you think the nexus especially Wade would be in a way different place right now had Cena done the job?
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Sept 14, 2014 12:40:35 GMT -5
Maybe he would be if Selfish Cena hadn't squashed him at SummerSlam with that damn creative control he's got too much of lol. Be honest though do you think the nexus especially Wade would be in a way different place right now had Cena done the job? At SummerSlam 2010? Of course they wouldn't be in a different place. It would've changed Raw the next night and not much beyond that. The storyline would still have gone the same way regardless of the SummerSlam result. Cena would still have become the Nexus/Barrett slave a month or two later and eventually won his freedom and got his revenge on them. That's how wrestling works, the top babyface beats the heels in the end. It's always been that way in the WWF, regardless of any "selfish creative control" nonsense that younger fans might come up with because they either weren't born in the Hogan and Austin eras or they've forgotten the match results from those eras.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 14, 2014 14:31:20 GMT -5
Be honest though do you think the nexus especially Wade would be in a way different place right now had Cena done the job? At SummerSlam 2010? Of course they wouldn't be in a different place. It would've changed Raw the next night and not much beyond that. The storyline would still have gone the same way regardless of the SummerSlam result. Cena would still have become the Nexus/Barrett slave a month or two later and eventually won his freedom and got his revenge on them. That's how wrestling works, the top babyface beats the heels in the end. It's always been that way in the WWF, regardless of any "selfish creative control" nonsense that younger fans might come up with because they either weren't born in the Hogan and Austin eras or they've forgotten the match results from those eras. You know, I never looked at it like that but you make a very valid point.
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