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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 15:17:30 GMT -5
So....what if my opinion is Gillberg was better than Goldberg, is Gillberg recognized as better than Goldberg? No because that's not a fact, that's your opinion. If that was your opinion, then it shouldn't effect anybody else. It's like people on here don't know difference between fact and opinion. Lol man I just had to.. And I feel ya. I personally think Taker is the greatest. There's ways to "prove" he is and ways to "prove" he isn't. Like I think Manning is better than Brady. That's the great thing about sports and especially wrestling is that so many have different tastes in who they like and I think it's all for the better
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Post by sitruC on Sept 15, 2014 15:20:16 GMT -5
Eh it's normal.
Like how in modern times titles change monthly as opposed to how it used to be.
If it always did Bret Hart would be a 32 time champion and Trish would have 262 reigns.
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Post by johnnyb on Sept 15, 2014 15:35:29 GMT -5
Explain to me HOW Beth Phoenix is better than Paige...? I don't think she's better either but I understand why some people think she is. She has a pretty unique style as a power wrestler; only Chyna and Bull Nakano really had regular runs on TV with the same skillset. Personally, I thought Beth was talented in the ring, but was never very compelling outside of it and was rarely booked in such a way that I ever looked forward to her matches.
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Post by punksnotdead on Sept 15, 2014 15:39:39 GMT -5
No because that's not a fact, that's your opinion. If that was your opinion, then it shouldn't effect anybody else. It's like people on here don't know difference between fact and opinion. Lol man I just had to.. And I feel ya. I personally think Taker is the greatest. There's ways to "prove" he is and ways to "prove" he isn't. Like I think Manning is better than Brady. That's the great thing about sports and especially wrestling is that so many have different tastes in who they like and I think it's all for the better Those two things are nothing alike. You can actually compare Brady vs Manning statistically. You're entitled to like Manning more than Brady, that's your opinion. One of those guys has a 93.8 passer rating in 5 Super Bowl appearances and the other one has an 81 rating in 3 Super Bowl appearances. Eliminate Tom Brady's two best Super Bowl performances, and he STILL has a better passer rating than Manning. It's a fact that Tom Brady is a better Super Bowl performer than Peyton Manning. If you want to talk about regular season stats then you can go ahead and move onto those, but the hard data exists. There is absolutely nothing like that in pro wrestling to compare talent, because it's all subjective.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 15:46:10 GMT -5
Lol man I just had to.. And I feel ya. I personally think Taker is the greatest. There's ways to "prove" he is and ways to "prove" he isn't. Like I think Manning is better than Brady. That's the great thing about sports and especially wrestling is that so many have different tastes in who they like and I think it's all for the better Those two things are nothing alike. You can actually compare Brady vs Manning statistically. You're entitled to like Manning more than Brady, that's your opinion. One of those guys has a 93.8 passer rating in 5 Super Bowl appearances and the other one has an 81 rating in 3 Super Bowl appearances. Eliminate Tom Brady's two best Super Bowl performances, and he STILL has a better passer rating than Manning. It's a fact that Tom Brady is a better Super Bowl performer than Peyton Manning. If you want to talk about regular season stats then you can go ahead and move onto those, but the hard data exists. There is absolutely nothing like that in pro wrestling to compare talent, because it's all subjective. I don't get so much into the championship stats. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. He's one of the greatest. In basketball, Rober Horry has like 6 or 7 rings. He is not a better basketball player than Lebron James. Eli manning has two rings. Peyton has one. Peyton is the better quarterback. I could get into "stats" that prove Taker is the greatest. But being as NFL historians have different opinions on who is better, then it means it's subjective. As long as opinions exists, there can never be a true "greatest ever" in anything.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Sept 15, 2014 15:48:03 GMT -5
Those two things are nothing alike. You can actually compare Brady vs Manning statistically. You're entitled to like Manning more than Brady, that's your opinion. One of those guys has a 93.8 passer rating in 5 Super Bowl appearances and the other one has an 81 rating in 3 Super Bowl appearances. Eliminate Tom Brady's two best Super Bowl performances, and he STILL has a better passer rating than Manning. It's a fact that Tom Brady is a better Super Bowl performer than Peyton Manning. If you want to talk about regular season stats then you can go ahead and move onto those, but the hard data exists. There is absolutely nothing like that in pro wrestling to compare talent, because it's all subjective. I don't get so much into the championship stats. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. He's one of the greatest. In basketball, Rober Horry has like 6 or 7 rings. He is not a better basketball player than Lebron James. Eli manning has two rings. Peyton has one. Peyton is the better quarterback. I could get into "stats" that prove Taker is the greatest. But being as NFL historians have different opinions on who is better, then it means it's subjective. As long as opinions exists, there can never be a true "greatest ever" in anything. Pssh. Wayne Gretzky.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2014 15:49:04 GMT -5
I don't get so much into the championship stats. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. He's one of the greatest. In basketball, Rober Horry has like 6 or 7 rings. He is not a better basketball player than Lebron James. Eli manning has two rings. Peyton has one. Peyton is the better quarterback. I could get into "stats" that prove Taker is the greatest. But being as NFL historians have different opinions on who is better, then it means it's subjective. As long as opinions exists, there can never be a true "greatest ever" in anything. Pssh. Wayne Gretzky. Lol
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 15, 2014 18:16:14 GMT -5
Kelly Kelly shouldn't be in the same sentence as Beth Phoenix and Paige.
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Post by k5 on Sept 15, 2014 18:24:08 GMT -5
Opinion is to like someone. Facts would show who the superior worker. I could be wrong though. There's no facts about it. People enjoy different things so enjoy different workers, It's all opinion based. Like, Shawn Michaels is my favourite of all time,but there's no fact that he is, that's an opinion. Just like it's his opinion Paige is better than Beth. no, there are clearly people who are better workers than others. sabu might be your favourite wrestler ever, but he has several notable slights that make it a justified statement to say he isn't a good worker. to knit pick about who's the best comes down to opinion, but there are certainly classes of different workers in wrestling both on the mic and in the ring.
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Post by Gazza on Sept 15, 2014 19:15:30 GMT -5
There's no facts about it. People enjoy different things so enjoy different workers, It's all opinion based. Like, Shawn Michaels is my favourite of all time,but there's no fact that he is, that's an opinion. Just like it's his opinion Paige is better than Beth. no, there are clearly people who are better workers than others. sabu might be your favourite wrestler ever, but he has several notable slights that make it a justified statement to say he isn't a good worker. to knit pick about who's the best comes down to opinion, but there are certainly classes of different workers in wrestling both on the mic and in the ring. There really isn't though, It's all about opinion. People think different wrestlers are better workers, if everybody thought the same it would be pretty boring wouldn't it? As I said, I think Shawn Michaels is the best of all time, somebody else thinks Taker is the best so thinks Taker is the better worker. There's no facts in who is the better worker between the two, it's just down to opinion and what each person thinks. I get that people having an opinion is a lost concept to some people on here, but still.
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Post by Devilkiller on Sept 15, 2014 19:27:01 GMT -5
I don't get so much into the championship stats. Dan Marino never won a Super Bowl. He's one of the greatest. In basketball, Rober Horry has like 6 or 7 rings. He is not a better basketball player than Lebron James. Eli manning has two rings. Peyton has one. Peyton is the better quarterback. I could get into "stats" that prove Taker is the greatest. But being as NFL historians have different opinions on who is better, then it means it's subjective. As long as opinions exists, there can never be a true "greatest ever" in anything. Pssh. Wayne Gretzky. You Canadian.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Sept 16, 2014 3:30:38 GMT -5
paige hasn't been on the main roster for even a year and has earned the divas championship 2 times, but in kelly kelly's and beth phoenix's 6 year career they only held the divas championship 1 time each Well Beth Phoenix was Women's Champion. But Paige > Kelly. I know they are technically separate lineages, but we all know that they are the "same" title. I'm pretty meh on Paige myself, but she is going to accumulate several title runs.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 3:46:28 GMT -5
Paige > Beth
I live Beth too so it isn't bias pAige just has wrestling in her blood so much it'd be sad if she wasnt better than most of all of divas in wwe
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Sept 16, 2014 12:07:08 GMT -5
Well Beth held the Women's Title 3 times before that and Kelly Kelly is garbage compared to Paige when it comes to in Ring skills
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2014 13:12:51 GMT -5
1. # of Championships don't measure greatness.
2. I find Paige to be more entertaining than both of them anyways.
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