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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:13:34 GMT -5
Report his post. He'll be gone soon enough. I haven't done anything against TOS so I won't be gone Unfortunately for you when you sent me an abusive PM earlier & called me names you broke several rules at once.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:15:05 GMT -5
His momentum will be gone by the time he gets back, not like that will stop Vince from pushing him but it'll make the fans turn even faster when he goes over Bryan to win the Rumble. You mean like Steve Austin's and John Cena's and Triple H's and Edge's momentum was gone when they got injured, came back and won the Rumble (though in Austin's case he was back for three months prior to the Rumble in 2001)? He's coming back and potentially winning the Royal Rumble. Winning the Rumble creates momentum. That aside, it's going to be interesting if it indeed does end with him throwing Bryan out to win. It's not guaranteed or a foregone conclusion that fans will rebel against him. This year, the fans have gotten behind new guys being given the shove as opposed to WWE remaining with the status quo. Reigns isn't the status quo much like Bryan isn't the status quo. Plus it potentially leads to Bryan vs. Reigns with Bryan being determined to stomp Roman's face in. That should make the internet fans happy...right?
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Post by IRS on Sept 21, 2014 14:15:44 GMT -5
so apparently Big Show replaced Reigns at the house show and beat Rollins oh no. I wouldn't worry. If anyone faces Rollins tonight, it's likely going to be Ambrose.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:26:18 GMT -5
Unfortunately for you when you sent me an abusive PM earlier & called me names you broke several rules at once. I said you were a jerk caus you always lock my threads If you weren't a terrible person, you wouldn't have that issue.
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Post by Slim on Sept 21, 2014 14:36:24 GMT -5
Who will Seth Rollins face? Bray Wyatt is not in the card for the moment, Rollins vs Wyatt would be great!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:37:07 GMT -5
Who will Seth Rollins face? Bray Wyatt is not in the card for the moment, Rollins vs Wyatt would be great! I'd agree, but unless you're turning Bray face, it won't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 14:40:26 GMT -5
Who will Seth Rollins face? Bray Wyatt is not in the card for the moment, Rollins vs Wyatt would be great! Yeah, let's have that match happen on a B-level PPV with no hype for no reason whatsoever!
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Post by IRS on Sept 21, 2014 14:44:10 GMT -5
Who will Seth Rollins face? Bray Wyatt is not in the card for the moment, Rollins vs Wyatt would be great! I'd agree, but unless you're turning Bray face, it won't happen. I actually read on some dirtsheet this morning that they're considering turning Bray face.... Praying it's bullcrap.
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Post by Chip on Sept 21, 2014 14:51:06 GMT -5
aaaaand he's gone...
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Post by rustyy on Sept 21, 2014 14:56:19 GMT -5
His momentum will be gone by the time he gets back, not like that will stop Vince from pushing him but it'll make the fans turn even faster when he goes over Bryan to win the Rumble. You mean like Steve Austin's and John Cena's and Triple H's and Edge's momentum was gone when they got injured, came back and won the Rumble (though in Austin's case he was back for three months prior to the Rumble in 2001)? He's coming back and potentially winning the Royal Rumble. Winning the Rumble creates momentum. That aside, it's going to be interesting if it indeed does end with him throwing Bryan out to win. It's not guaranteed or a foregone conclusion that fans will rebel against him. This year, the fans have gotten behind new guys being given the shove as opposed to WWE remaining with the status quo. Reigns isn't the status quo much like Bryan isn't the status quo. Plus it potentially leads to Bryan vs. Reigns with Bryan being determined to stomp Roman's face in. That should make the internet fans happy...right? Lol at comparing Roman to those four. He's not in their league. Bryan is the fans favorite super star they've had in years, they will have the same problem they had this year if he doesn't win it. Bryan is basically a new Stone Cold because the fans love him no matter what, the fact he was stripped of the title makes this all the more worse for Reigns. Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over. Plus, don't even get me started on Reigns winning the Rumble, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it, he can't even wrestle a match or cut a promo yet. All flash no substance.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Sept 21, 2014 15:05:45 GMT -5
You mean like Steve Austin's and John Cena's and Triple H's and Edge's momentum was gone when they got injured, came back and won the Rumble (though in Austin's case he was back for three months prior to the Rumble in 2001)? He's coming back and potentially winning the Royal Rumble. Winning the Rumble creates momentum. That aside, it's going to be interesting if it indeed does end with him throwing Bryan out to win. It's not guaranteed or a foregone conclusion that fans will rebel against him. This year, the fans have gotten behind new guys being given the shove as opposed to WWE remaining with the status quo. Reigns isn't the status quo much like Bryan isn't the status quo. Plus it potentially leads to Bryan vs. Reigns with Bryan being determined to stomp Roman's face in. That should make the internet fans happy...right? Lol at comparing Roman to those four. He's not in their league. Bryan is the fans favorite super star they've had in years, they will have the same problem they had this year if he doesn't win it. Bryan is basically a new Stone Cold because the fans love him no matter what, the fact he was stripped of the title makes this all the more worse for Reigns. Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over. Plus, don't even get me started on Reigns winning the Rumble, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it, he can't even wrestle a match or cut a promo yet. All flash no substance. I don't think he was comparing Reigns to those four, cause Reigns is no where near their league, and I'm a big fan of his. What Takeover was saying was that if guys like Cena, Austin, Rock's momentum did not lower or injury didn't stop WWE from pushing those guys anyways, that this injury where he won't even miss the amount of time that the ones mentioned missed will not diminish Roman Reigns' momentum. In fact, this injury might benefit Reigns's momentum cause hopefully when he comes back, the fans will go wild for him the way they did when he was first on his singles run and they will push Reigns up in the cards and the plans for Mania will stay.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:08:34 GMT -5
You mean like Steve Austin's and John Cena's and Triple H's and Edge's momentum was gone when they got injured, came back and won the Rumble (though in Austin's case he was back for three months prior to the Rumble in 2001)? He's coming back and potentially winning the Royal Rumble. Winning the Rumble creates momentum. That aside, it's going to be interesting if it indeed does end with him throwing Bryan out to win. It's not guaranteed or a foregone conclusion that fans will rebel against him. This year, the fans have gotten behind new guys being given the shove as opposed to WWE remaining with the status quo. Reigns isn't the status quo much like Bryan isn't the status quo. Plus it potentially leads to Bryan vs. Reigns with Bryan being determined to stomp Roman's face in. That should make the internet fans happy...right? Lol at comparing Roman to those four. He's not in their league. Bryan is the fans favorite super star they've had in years, they will have the same problem they had this year if he doesn't win it. Bryan is basically a new Stone Cold because the fans love him no matter what, the fact he was stripped of the title makes this all the more worse for Reigns. Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over. Plus, don't even get me started on Reigns winning the Rumble, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it, he can't even wrestle a match or cut a promo yet. All flash no substance. He doesn't have to be in their league for the comparison to be valid. All four got hurt, came back, won the Rumble and any momentum that was lost was restored. Bryan's lost a lot of steam as well, hell he was losing steam rapidly WHILE he was still champion because of how they booked him. There's no guarantee that when he comes back it'll be as big as it was when he left but there's no guarantee that it won't but to act like there's no chance he's cooled off is blindness at its worst. Bryan's been out longer than Roman will have been in the end, he's lost far more momentum than Roman will if you just want to go by the guy not being on TV since that seems to be the criteria you're using. "Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over." Oh, you mean like what you do when you're trying to have a company with multiple big stars to carry the friggin' load? They're both guys that fans have an interest in, both are new faces in an otherwise stale and bland main event scene. Putting the two of them together under the right circumstances could be the difference between sparking off a new era for the company or wallowing in the same sh-t they've been in for years. re: the bolded part - people on here said the same sh-t about Batista in 2005. That same guy they complained about headlined one of the biggest PPVs the WWE ever put on. Don't sell short the WWE's ability to make something out of not-a-whole-lot. I don't think he was comparing Reigns to those four, cause Reigns is no where near their league, and I'm a big fan of his. What Takeover was saying was that if guys like Cena, Austin, Rock's momentum did not lower or injury didn't stop WWE from pushing those guys anyways, that this injury where he won't even miss the amount of time that the ones mentioned missed will not diminish Roman Reigns' momentum. In fact, this injury might benefit Reigns's momentum cause hopefully when he comes back, the fans will go wild for him the way they did when he was first on his singles run and they will push Reigns up in the cards and the plans for Mania will stay. Bingo.
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Post by HVMMONS on Sept 21, 2014 15:14:54 GMT -5
Dang, now I don't want to waste my time watching tonight... Then again I'm anxious to see what will happen though. The agony.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:31:46 GMT -5
I'd agree, but unless you're turning Bray face, it won't happen. I actually read on some dirtsheet this morning that they're considering turning Bray face.... Praying it's bullcrap. For some time now I have felt that The Wyatts would be turned face to become a thorn in the side of The Authority......its just a feeling Ive had for a while....
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Post by rustyy on Sept 21, 2014 15:40:47 GMT -5
Lol at comparing Roman to those four. He's not in their league. Bryan is the fans favorite super star they've had in years, they will have the same problem they had this year if he doesn't win it. Bryan is basically a new Stone Cold because the fans love him no matter what, the fact he was stripped of the title makes this all the more worse for Reigns. Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over. Plus, don't even get me started on Reigns winning the Rumble, he's done absolutely nothing to deserve it, he can't even wrestle a match or cut a promo yet. All flash no substance. He doesn't have to be in their league for the comparison to be valid. All four got hurt, came back, won the Rumble and any momentum that was lost was restored. Bryan's lost a lot of steam as well, hell he was losing steam rapidly WHILE he was still champion because of how they booked him. There's no guarantee that when he comes back it'll be as big as it was when he left but there's no guarantee that it won't but to act like there's no chance he's cooled off is blindness at its worst. Bryan's been out longer than Roman will have been in the end, he's lost far more momentum than Roman will if you just want to go by the guy not being on TV since that seems to be the criteria you're using. "Bryan Vs Reigns would just be another way Vince tries to get Reigns over." Oh, you mean like what you do when you're trying to have a company with multiple big stars to carry the friggin' load? They're both guys that fans have an interest in, both are new faces in an otherwise stale and bland main event scene. Putting the two of them together under the right circumstances could be the difference between sparking off a new era for the company or wallowing in the same sh-t they've been in for years. re: the bolded part - people on here said the same sh-t about Batista in 2005. That same guy they complained about headlined one of the biggest PPVs the WWE ever put on. Don't sell short the WWE's ability to make something out of not-a-whole-lot. Actually he does, they were huge stars that got hurt and came back to fans that wanted to see them, it'll be the same situation with Bryan, I'm not even a huge Bryan fan and I know that. Bryan has lost steam but he was also way more over than Roman will ever dream of being, he has nothing to worry about. And no, the way you book stars should be based on talent, not whether you're pretty or not. Which is all Reigns is and he in no world deserves to go over Bryan/Cena/Anyone of value until he improves ring and mic work by a lot. WWE doesn't want multiple top guys, they want one because Vince is stuck in his ways of 1980 when Hogan ran the company. Batista actually had talent, key difference between him and Reigns.
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Post by IRS on Sept 21, 2014 15:42:24 GMT -5
I actually read on some dirtsheet this morning that they're considering turning Bray face.... Praying it's bullcrap. For some time now I have felt that The Wyatts would be turned face to become a thorn in the side of The Authority......its just a feeling Ive had for a while.... Outside of an angle with The Authority, I don't really see how they would work as faces. They could absolutely work as tweeners, but I think going full-face would kill them.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 15:50:10 GMT -5
Actually he does, they were huge stars that got hurt and came back to fans that wanted to see them, it'll be the same situation with Bryan, I'm not even a huge Bryan fan and I know that. Bryan has lost steam but he was also way more over than Roman will ever dream of being, he has nothing to worry about. You seem to be a bigger Bryan fan than you're letting on. And calling Edge a "huge" star is a bit of a stretch. Certainly a bigger deal than Roman, but nowhere near as big of a star as the other three. With that said, again, the comparison is valid. He got hurt, in the middle of his big push, and he's going to come back and presumably win the Rumble. He won't lose any more momentum than Bryan has and even then, either of them winning the Rumble restores that momentum. And no, the way you book stars should be based on talent, not whether you're pretty or not. Which is all Reigns is and he in no world deserves to go over Bryan/Cena/Anyone of value until he improves ring and mic work by a lot. WWE doesn't want multiple top guys, they want one because Vince is stuck in his ways of 1980 when Hogan ran the company. Uh...they had multiple top guys in the 80s when Hogan ran the company. Hulk, Savage, Warrior, Andre, Piper, Rude to name a few. Those were all huge names that could headline anywhere in the country even with a terrible undercard and they'd still sell out. They don't have that now. They were able to run multiple house shows at a time with each show having an assortment of top stars. They had multiple top guys in the Attitude Era, too. Hell, they had multiple top guys when Cena and Batista started to get pushed. Now is really the only time there's been one real top guy and then everyone else is just floating around. Reigns doesn't need to be the best guy on the microphone. He doesn't even need to have classic matches. The point of him is that he's the big badass who smashes his opponents. Guys in that role don't have to be the best workers, they just have to have a good enough assortment of moves to make it work and he does. There's more than one type of "good" wrestler. Reigns is good, but not good in the same sense as a guy like Bryan just like Bryan's not good in the same sense as a guy like Cena just like Cena's not good in the same sense as a guy like Undertaker. You need multiple types of guys, not everyone needs to be a great worker or some cool character the internet likes. They're not booking this product solely for internet fans. I think it's time we all got that through our heads. Batista actually had talent, key difference between him and Reigns.  You don't remember early 2005 Batista very well...do you?
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Sept 21, 2014 15:59:39 GMT -5
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Post by rustyy on Sept 21, 2014 16:17:37 GMT -5
Actually he does, they were huge stars that got hurt and came back to fans that wanted to see them, it'll be the same situation with Bryan, I'm not even a huge Bryan fan and I know that. Bryan has lost steam but he was also way more over than Roman will ever dream of being, he has nothing to worry about. You seem to be a bigger Bryan fan than you're letting on. And calling Edge a "huge" star is a bit of a stretch. Certainly a bigger deal than Roman, but nowhere near as big of a star as the other three. With that said, again, the comparison is valid. He got hurt, in the middle of his big push, and he's going to come back and presumably win the Rumble. He won't lose any more momentum than Bryan has and even then, either of them winning the Rumble restores that momentum. And no, the way you book stars should be based on talent, not whether you're pretty or not. Which is all Reigns is and he in no world deserves to go over Bryan/Cena/Anyone of value until he improves ring and mic work by a lot. WWE doesn't want multiple top guys, they want one because Vince is stuck in his ways of 1980 when Hogan ran the company. Uh...they had multiple top guys in the 80s when Hogan ran the company. Hulk, Savage, Warrior, Andre, Piper, Rude to name a few. Those were all huge names that could headline anywhere in the country even with a terrible undercard and they'd still sell out. They don't have that now. They were able to run multiple house shows at a time with each show having an assortment of top stars. They had multiple top guys in the Attitude Era, too. Hell, they had multiple top guys when Cena and Batista started to get pushed. Now is really the only time there's been one real top guy and then everyone else is just floating around. Reigns doesn't need to be the best guy on the microphone. He doesn't even need to have classic matches. The point of him is that he's the spamass who smashes his opponents. Guys in that role don't have to be the best workers, they just have to have a good enough assortment of moves to make it work and he does. There's more than one type of "good" wrestler. Reigns is good, but not good in the same sense as a guy like Bryan just like Bryan's not good in the same sense as a guy like Cena just like Cena's not good in the same sense as a guy like Undertaker. You need multiple types of guys, not everyone needs to be a great worker or some cool character the internet likes. They're not booking this product solely for internet fans. I think it's time we all got that through our heads. Batista actually had talent, key difference between him and Reigns. You don't remember early 2005 Batista very well...do you? I like the guy, I think he's a great guy for the mid card but I don't think he should be main eventing shows. Edge was a pretty big star, you're right not the caliber of Cena/Austin but he was still a full blown main eventer. They can leave and people are desperate for them to come back, or in Cena's case it was a total surprise that no one saw coming so they were happy. From early this year it was clear as day Roman is going to beat Brock and main event WM31. I'm telling you, if he eliminates Bryan it's going to be the Batista situation all over again. Hogan was the main draw and he was just like Cena and always won, never really let anyone else shine for like 10 years. So basically what you're saying is, Reigns is allowed to suck because he is playing a badass character? Because he doesn't have t be good on the mic or in the ring, but as long as he does he 4 moves well, all is good? I know their not booking for internet fans, I don't expect them too but I do expect the top talent in the company to be pushed as such, and not just because they look pretty. Wade Barrett has a much better look than Reigns, along with mic skills and ring skills, but he's not pushed because he's English and because he isn't supermodel attractive like Reigns. I can't wait till Vince steps down and actual talent can actually shine. Batista showed a lot more potential then Reigns has, he was good enough on the mic and mediocre in the ring, Reigns is worse than that in both aspects.
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Post by 0,Y on Sept 21, 2014 16:20:29 GMT -5
First of all it's great that this moron is gone now. Now OT, I wasn't planning on watching tonight even though I don't have anything to do tomorrow so I could stay up from 2am to 5am just to watch the show. I'm a big Reigns fan but his match with Rollins doesn't interest me at all. Now that he's injured I'm intrigued what they're going to do. I'm torn whether I should watch or not, the rest of the card doesn't interest me. I'll probably watch it tomorrow. Hopefully Reigns has a speedy recovery and everything. Fortunately he'll be back to win the Rumble at the latest.
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