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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 13:47:59 GMT -5
I'm sure this isn't the first time this has been asked, but I'm sure it's not something that gets brought up often. So, much like general wrestling opinions that may get you crucified by the general consensus, such as "Attitude Era is overrated" or "CM Punk sucks" what are ones pertaining to wrestling games that might get you heat?
No Mercy isn't the greatest wrestling game of all time. It is certainly one of the best to ever be released and definitely at the top of the charts when it comes to North American wrestling games. However, it does have its share of flaws and some of the aspects of the engine aren't all that awesome. I prefer Fire Pro or King of Colosseum 2 to that and really the rest of the games in the THQ/AKI collection.
Story modes in wrestling games don't do it for me. I often see people clamoring for a career/story mode in the upcoming WWE game and it just baffles me. To me, those are modes that you play once or twice and they just aren't that compelling. The stories are often lacking, it isn't long enough to make me want to play, there is limitations on them, I'd rather just play Universe mode or come up with my own stories.
And for the record, any "never ending" story mode, such as Smackdown 2, gets old too. You eventually run into the same cutscenes and repeat things endlessly. I played that one, I saw a lot of" The Rock has entered the arena" and " What are Triple H and Billy Gunn up to?" and it was just tiring. I'll never see this whole "man, these are what make wrestling games" type mentality. To me, if you need a career mode or a story mode, you need your hand held in coming up with reasons to play the game.
Finally, the modern WWE games aren't that bad. Don't get me wrong, they aren't as good in terms of the wrestling engine as many games of the past. But I feel like there is a lot of value in them. I like coming up with crazy spots and seeing the weapons and wrestlers react accordingly. You know how many times when playing Here Comes the Pain after playing the current games, I wish I could suplex someone from the top of a ladder stacked on the announce table and another table, through another table.
Not to mention the level of creation. You can argue that certain aspects haven't changed in years and I'll agree, but the simple fact that we have the ability to take a WWE game and pretty much make it any wrestling game we want, is crazy. I can download a full WCW 1996 roster, arenas, belts, logos, etc, and completely change the game. Maybe I want a territorial game, with wrestlers from Mid South, World Class, NWA, WWF, and more. CHIKARA, New Japan, ROH, TNA, the list goes on and on. Heck, you can even, to a degree, have your own Mortal Kombat or Marvel vs Capcom wrestling game. It's awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 14:01:20 GMT -5
GM Mode was boring as . RTWM in WWE 12 isn't as bad as people say. The free roam RTWM in SVR 2011 are awesome.
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Post by YES! YES! YES! on Oct 2, 2014 14:56:07 GMT -5
2k14 was an updated '13 without the special feel
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Post by Roman Bellic on Oct 2, 2014 15:01:06 GMT -5
i loved the RTWMs from SvR 2011
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:09:45 GMT -5
The RTWM in SVR 11 was soo good. Hell, SVR 11 was sooo good in itself. If they had worked out the kinks, it would have been one of the best wrestling games ever.
Ever since WWE 12, the games have been pretty boring.
SVR 06 IS the best wrestling game of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:12:58 GMT -5
WrestleMania 21 was a good game. The SVR series is the lowest point for WWE games since the Acclaim era. SVR2006 is the most overrated wrestling game ever. Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 is better than No Mercy. WWE 12, 13 and 2K14 are as technically good in the ring as WWE games have ever been gameplay wise. I would have rather SmackDown! was a direct copy of Toukon Retsuden instead of being altered for the American audience. Day of Reckoning 2 was miles better than SVR 2006. WrestleMania Challenge is more enjoyable than the 16 bit WWF games. WWF Attitude wasn't as bad as people say it was. WCW Mayhem was a good game. WWE All Stars is the most fun WWE game since HCTP. TNA iMPACT wasn't that bad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:13:48 GMT -5
The RTWM in SVR 11 was soo good. Hell, SVR 11 was sooo good in itself. If they had worked out the kinks, it would have been one of the best wrestling games ever. Ever since WWE 12, the games have been pretty boring. SVR 06 IS the best wrestling game of all time.That one's not an unpopular opinion. A lot of fans love that game. I'm pretty sure it's the only wrestling game on IGN to be scored higher than No Mercy and a lot of people believed the hype at the time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:16:39 GMT -5
WrestleMania 21 was a good game. The SVR series is the lowest point for WWE games since the Acclaim era. SVR2006 is the most overrated wrestling game ever. Virtual Pro Wrestling 2 is better than No Mercy. WWE 12, 13 and 2K14 are as technically good in the ring as WWE games have ever been gameplay wise. I would have rather SmackDown! was a direct copy of Toukon Retsuden instead of being altered for the American audience. Day of Reckoning 2 was miles better than SVR 2006. WrestleMania Challenge is more enjoyable than the 16 bit WWF games. WWF Attitude wasn't as bad as people say it was. WCW Mayhem was a good game. WWE All Stars is the most fun WWE game since HCTP. TNA iMPACT wasn't that bad. Not really much to add after this one.
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Post by Devilkiller on Oct 2, 2014 15:45:26 GMT -5
I think SVR 2008 gets too much hate. Day of Reckoning is the best IMO.
Don't hate me please
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 15:52:46 GMT -5
WWE Smackdown vs. Raw 2011, in terms of graphics and pure gameplay, was the best wrestling game THQ has ever published.
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Oct 2, 2014 16:11:50 GMT -5
GM Mode was boring as . RTWM in WWE 12 isn't as bad as people say. The free roam RTWM in SVR 2011 are awesome. I miss GM Mode so much.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 16:15:00 GMT -5
I think GM Mode had a place for me and friend competing, but as a single player mode was kinda meh.
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Post by pfrchaos on Oct 2, 2014 16:32:55 GMT -5
VPW 2, WrestleMania 2000, and WCW/nWo Revenge are all better than No Mercy. Backstage Assault was fun as hell. Fire Pro Wrestling's gameplay is boring. SVR 2007 < SVR 2008 DOR > DOR 2
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 16:37:55 GMT -5
VPW 2, WrestleMania 2000, and WCW/nWo Revenge are all better than No Mercy. Backstage Assault was fun as hell.Fire Pro Wrestling's gameplay is boring. SVR 2007 < SVR 2008 DOR > DOR 2 I can't play that game without getting stuck on every object in the set pieces.
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Post by Weemanv1 on Oct 2, 2014 17:38:19 GMT -5
- No Mercy was good for its time, but doesn't hold up at all today. Like most early 3D games, it's very dated and borderline unplayable because of it.
- I loved GM mode, but understand why it's not coming back. It was pretty hated back in the day.
- SvR 2011 is the best wrestling game released in the past five years. Every game after it got progressively worse. I have a feeling 2k15 will break that chain though.
- Here Comes the Pain is good, but overrated, particularly the story mode. I have never had fun with this mess of a season mode and it's a huge step down from Shut your Mouth. The gameplay was improved in the next two games and thus they are more worth playing to me. The only reason I have to go back to HCTP now is Sean O'Haire and the hardcore matches.
- Fire Pro really isn't that fun to play, but it's the best wrestling simulation out there. I really don't mind simming and watching matches, but playing them is a chore.
- I want SvR 2006's backstage brawls back much more than I want the backstage roaming areas from the Smackdown! games.
- I hate the Atitude Era and Wrestlemania modes from the last two games. I've never once played them outside of Beat the Streak which is actually original content. I just can't see myself playing through something that I can watch for free on Youtube. Thank god for Universe and the create modes. And before someone jumps down my throat, I just hate the modes, not the wrestlers that came with them. In fact, that's the only thing I like that those modes gave us.
- I miss RTWM mode. I loved the stories in 2011 and 2012's in particular.
- I want a new Kinnikuman game, damnit!
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Post by dylan on Oct 2, 2014 18:28:57 GMT -5
11 and 12's RTWM modes were very fun
WM 2000 was better than No Mercy
WWE 2K14 is one of the best wrestling games since 2006
The only good thing about 13 and 14's "story" modes were the rosters that we got. Those modes were a chore and boring as hell.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 19:11:50 GMT -5
I don't create/download or use CAWs. Not having the right entrance music, titantrons, match-up renders, character selection renders, etc. ruins it for me.
The lag in No Mercy really hurt the game and makes me prefer Wrestlemania 2000.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 19:47:54 GMT -5
I really think Smackdown vs Raw 2010 is a really great wrestling game the roster was good,Story Mode was great,The graphics were good really nice game.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 20:04:47 GMT -5
No Mercy was never really that good, of course now there's a lot of people that think that way but when I first played it I guess thinking that way would be sacrilege.
Mayhem was definitely the best WCW game on PS1. SVR 2011 on the PS2 is the worst wrestling game EVER. Yes, even better then Nitro and that really obscure european wrestling game that's less playable then Nitro That's it really for me
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2014 22:01:20 GMT -5
What was so great about Smackdown vs. Raw 2006? I owned it but honestly don't remember.
I'm intrigued. All of those SD vs. Raw games run together to me.
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