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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Oct 3, 2014 11:02:14 GMT -5
I ask because I can't get into it, but I know a few mates who can. I've watched the SuperBowl for the past 3 years and we had an American night with ribs & bbq sauce etc, and that's fun. The SuperBowl is probably the 3rd biggest sporting match in the world (WC Final and CL Final both get more viewers, but after that I think its the SuperBowl), so the atmosphere is always good. However, the actual game itself is so meh to me. Its just that the action is great for 10 seconds, but then there's 2 minutes of nothing. It can't hold my attention when 90% of it isn't even trying to.
So yeah, anyone else agree/disagree? It seems very marmite to most people in the UK I find.
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Post by Ramos on Oct 3, 2014 11:58:38 GMT -5
I love it, been a fan for 10+ years now. I was at my first Wembley game last weekend. I can totally understand people not enjoying it, but I fell in love with the sport because of Madden. I used to really enjoy playing it despite having very little understanding of the game. Which eventually led to me watching as much as I possibly could and reading up on tactics and the rules and what certain things meant, now I watch it more than I watch regular football.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Oct 3, 2014 12:33:11 GMT -5
No, although tbf I haven't watched loads.
I did watch most of the Superb Owl a couple of years back and while it wasn't terrible or anything, it was just "meh". Too many stoppages. 7 seconds of action (where everything just looks like a blur to me because they're all running at the same time) and then a pause. Another few seconds of action, then another pause. Then some analysis, then adverts, then back to 7 seconds of action.
The whole process is so tedious.
EDIT: Only read the first line of your post Mike before writing my own, didn't realise we wrote practically the same thing.
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Post by Markw on Oct 3, 2014 12:38:04 GMT -5
In a word, no.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Oct 3, 2014 12:44:28 GMT -5
Hate it. Too stop start for my liking and I can't believe it's the most popular sport over in the United States. I'm sure an American would say the same thing about football but I fail to see how football's boring.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Oct 3, 2014 12:50:14 GMT -5
Pretty much what everyone else says.
My cousin lives in America and he says it's more about the whole day of meeting up and having parties in the parking lot and the after parties, eating and drinking and socialising. Watching it on tv on my own however is crap. I suppose if I'm with 80 thousand people partying then I might like it too.
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Post by GBGav on Oct 3, 2014 13:05:43 GMT -5
I used to be in the same boat as a lot of you guys. Thought there wasn't much action and there was a lot of standing around going on between plays. But I gave it a chance and over the course of a few years it has surpassed "soccer" for me. I reluctantly use the word soccer because it's just easier to say that than football, which can confuse American people. The more you get into it, the better the breaks in between plays become because you can look at the field position, downs and formations to figure out for yourself what play should be run next. It's a much more tactical game and even though the plays only last a few seconds, any of them have the potential to be hard hitting exciting plays that can explode into something huge. The weather doesn't have a negative impact on American football either. I watched Stoke v Newcastle on Monday and it was a pretty drab rainy affair which ended 1-0 with no real excitement. Last night Green Bay and Minnesota played in much worse conditions and it was a very exciting 42-10 game with great plays. Snow games are always fun to watch too, whereas our football gets postponed.
Is it really any worse than seeing Barcelona pass the ball around forty times before having a shot? European football provides the illusion of action where you think it's a full 90 minutes of play but that's just because the ball is always moving and often it's not really producing anything. The players are thinking about what they're going to do whilst jogging around and passing the ball about. The NFL guys do that in between plays. I'll happily watch both sports though (well not entirely because there are only a few football teams that I will watch but I would watch 90% of NFL matchups.) However, FIFA > Madden.
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Oct 3, 2014 13:47:26 GMT -5
I used to be in the same boat as a lot of you guys. Thought there wasn't much action and there was a lot of standing around going on between plays. But I gave it a chance and over the course of a few years it has surpassed "soccer" for me. I reluctantly use the word soccer because it's just easier to say that than football, which can confuse American people. Yeah but this is the UK board so you might as well use football for football and 'NFL' (since none of the other American football leagues matter) for the other type of 'football'. Weather rarely has an impact on football. When was the last PL game postponed due to snow? 2010? And if anything, rain often improves football games as the ball moves across the pitch more quickly. Stoke and Newcastle wasn't a great game but they're not top teams in the PL compared to Green Bay and Minnesota in the NFL who are two of the biggest teams. 42-10 doesn't sound that exciting, at least in terms of competitiveness, sounds one sided iyam. You can think about the tactics of the game while the ball is being passed around or is out of play, instead of tons of advertisements and analysis while you're trying to immerse yourself in the game. As for NFL being more tactical, I can't agree with that. I'm not saying it's not tactical but football is 90% tactics. You can't just throw good players out there and expect the team to do well - that's been proven numerous times over the years. You have to be tactically aware because even the smallest teams can catch you out. I'd rather see Barcelona pass the ball around forty times and see a fantastic goal build up rather than watch a player taking a drink on the sidelines or an advert for prescription drugs. Thinking about what you're going to do while you're doing it is also much more difficult than taking a break and coming up with different plays. Teams' tactics and approaches change as a game progresses unlike in the NFL where you try one play, it either works or doesn't, then you come up with another play and so on.
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Post by Lego Customs! on Oct 3, 2014 14:18:18 GMT -5
NFL is the worst sport I have ever seen. I've given it 3 chances and it is just absolutely terrible. A great cure for insomnia.
The 'fans' in England on the whole seem like a bunch of sports hipsters to me, like the ones who 'support' Borussia Dortmund because it's the 'in' thing. I'm sure it will die down again in time.
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Post by Hammersmith Hardman on Oct 3, 2014 14:21:58 GMT -5
NFL is the worst sport I have ever seen. I've given it 3 chances and it is just absolutely terrible. A great cure for insomnia. The 'fans' in England on the whole seem like a bunch of sports hipsters to me, like the ones who 'support' Borussia Dortmund because it's the 'in' thing. I'm sure it will die down again in time. Beautiful wording.
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Post by AV1 on Oct 3, 2014 14:22:03 GMT -5
I enjoyed the Superbowl this year, and I've watched a couple of matches this season. It's not as bad as I used to find it but still can't see myself watching on a regular basis. More I'll stick it on if nothing else on.
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Post by mrassbillygunn on Oct 3, 2014 15:09:46 GMT -5
I cant get into it at all. Its stop-start-stop-start and those quarter intervals add to the frustration.
Premier League football (or soccer as the Americans call it) is so much more better because of its fluency.
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Post by Himmy! on Oct 4, 2014 15:35:41 GMT -5
I'm a casual fan. Follow the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (for no real reason other than the cannon in their stadium is ing cool, shame they suck though). It's an interesting sport, one that I am learning about gradually. The Super Bowl is always enjoyable to me just for the spectacle. The average game is stop start, but it's not too annoying to me. It's just part of it.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Oct 5, 2014 4:21:09 GMT -5
I'm a casual fan. Follow the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (for no real reason other than the cannon in their stadium is ing cool, shame they suck though). It's an interesting sport, one that I am learning about gradually. The Super Bowl is always enjoyable to me just for the spectacle. The average game is stop start, but it's not too annoying to me. It's just part of it. you're c*nting Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're all ****s. Stealing our money, giving us debt, getting ticket price cuts whilst we get rises
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Post by Himmy! on Oct 5, 2014 6:04:46 GMT -5
I'm a casual fan. Follow the Tampa Bay Buccaneers (for no real reason other than the cannon in their stadium is ing cool, shame they suck though). It's an interesting sport, one that I am learning about gradually. The Super Bowl is always enjoyable to me just for the spectacle. The average game is stop start, but it's not too annoying to me. It's just part of it. you're c*nting Tampa Bay Buccaneers. They're all ****s. Stealing our money, giving us debt, getting ticket price cuts whilst we get rises That's why I support them really .
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Oct 8, 2014 17:00:32 GMT -5
Renewed rumours today that the NFL are looking to move a franchise to Wembley. I can see it becoming the 4th most popular sport (behind Football, Rugby and Cricket), but no higher. It will sell out most games but that'll be because of minimal competition. The fact its only on for about 4 months a year at most (less if you don't make the postseason which a new team wouldn't at first) would also majorly hurt its popularity imo. Cricket is more successful then 'cos Football and Rugby aren't on, but if the NFL is competing with all 3 it'll be really tough for them.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 8, 2014 18:30:13 GMT -5
Renewed rumours today that the NFL are looking to move a franchise to Wembley. I can see it becoming the 4th most popular sport (behind Football, Rugby and Cricket), but no higher. It will sell out most games but that'll be because of minimal competition. The fact its only on for about 4 months a year at most (less if you don't make the postseason which a new team wouldn't at first) would also majorly hurt its popularity imo. Cricket is more successful then 'cos Football and Rugby aren't on, but if the NFL is competing with all 3 it'll be really tough for them. As an avid American NFL fan looking in, I just can't see this coming to fruition yet. Playing one game in London is already a huge strain on the players, but playing multiple home games in London would just be detrimental and I can't see any player supporting either a move or a new team.
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Post by Nivro™ on Oct 8, 2014 20:03:22 GMT -5
Hate it. Too stop start for my liking and I can't believe it's the most popular sport over in the United States. I'm sure an American would say the same thing about football but I fail to see how football's boring. As someone that grew up playing both football & soccer (from 5yo to 19yo) I never can understand why people say that soccer is more "action packed" so to speak. I mean, I get it that in soccer you're 90% of the time constantly moving but really, is watching a few guys do triangle passes or watching someone fall to the ground like they got their legs blow off by an IED when they barely got kicked in the shin exciting? Corners, crosses, headers...yea those are the exciting moments just as much as watching a running back truck a safety and dash for 45 yards but watching a ball go from one guy to another to another...just doesnt really sound very "on the edge" exciting to me. Im not trying to knock either sport as I enjoy both but just like hockey, they all have their "action moments".
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Post by Brunt's Left Foot on Oct 8, 2014 20:28:36 GMT -5
Hate it. Too stop start for my liking and I can't believe it's the most popular sport over in the United States. I'm sure an American would say the same thing about football but I fail to see how football's boring. As someone that grew up playing both football & soccer (from 5yo to 19yo) I never can understand why people say that soccer is more "action packed" so to speak. I mean, I get it that in soccer you're 90% of the time constantly moving but really, is watching a few guys do triangle passes or watching someone fall to the ground like they got their legs blow off by an IED when they barely got kicked in the shin exciting? Corners, crosses, headers...yea those are the exciting moments just as much as watching a running back truck a safety and dash for 45 yards but watching a ball go from one guy to another to another...just doesnt really sound very "on the edge" exciting to me. Im not trying to knock either sport as I enjoy both but just like hockey, they all have their "action moments". I can see your point, but I think some of the criticisms of football/soccer are stereotypes or misconceptions. Like you said, every sport has boring games or moments. But it really bothers me when people try to act like every football game is just passing the ball back and forth very slowly, and all games are 0-0 or 1-0, and everyone just dives (or flops in American terms).
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Oct 9, 2014 4:44:37 GMT -5
Hate it. Too stop start for my liking and I can't believe it's the most popular sport over in the United States. I'm sure an American would say the same thing about football but I fail to see how football's boring. As someone that grew up playing both football & soccer (from 5yo to 19yo) I never can understand why people say that soccer is more "action packed" so to speak. I mean, I get it that in soccer you're 90% of the time constantly moving but really, is watching a few guys do triangle passes or watching someone fall to the ground like they got their legs blow off by an IED when they barely got kicked in the shin exciting? Corners, crosses, headers...yea those are the exciting moments just as much as watching a running back truck a safety and dash for 45 yards but watching a ball go from one guy to another to another...just doesnt really sound very "on the edge" exciting to me. Im not trying to knock either sport as I enjoy both but just like hockey, they all have their "action moments". Its that anything could happen. It only takes 1 mistake or genius pass for a chance to be created, and that can happen at anytime, from anywhere. Howver, in an NFL broadcast I know for a fact that nothing will happen 90% of the time, because the ball isn't in play. If a pass isn't completed then nothing happens even when the ball is in play.
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