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Post by kennyw86v2 on Aug 8, 2020 16:24:58 GMT -5
I gave up on the Storm Collectibles MK line(s), as it was a lot to juggle with Street Fighter. I'd still like to grab a Cyborg Smoke, though, and if they ever release one, a Quan Chi. Have you sold them? And if not who do you have me? PM me if you want. |
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Post by Eric on Aug 8, 2020 22:14:58 GMT -5
Most popular characters by far. Equivalent of dc doing batman all the time and wwe doing reigns. Plus they've done ermac, rain, smoke, reptile, Kahn, goro, sektor, cyrax, raiden, baraka and motaro. Yeah I know they are the most popular (which is annoying because I've hated them since the beginning) it just sucks when they show things like Kitana and Mileena but we can't get them out but here's another palette swap ninja. I'm not a huge fan of the palette swap male Ninjas so most of what they've done I just haven't liked. MK 2 is my sweet spot which is why I own Baraka and Shao Kahn. Whenever they release Mileena, Kitana, Cage, and Kang I'll get those. And I wasn't a huge fan of part 3 but would take Sindel and Sonya. Just curious why you hated Sub-Zero and Scorpion from the start. |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Aug 11, 2020 7:20:01 GMT -5
Yeah I know they are the most popular (which is annoying because I've hated them since the beginning) it just sucks when they show things like Kitana and Mileena but we can't get them out but here's another palette swap ninja. I'm not a huge fan of the palette swap male Ninjas so most of what they've done I just haven't liked. MK 2 is my sweet spot which is why I own Baraka and Shao Kahn. Whenever they release Mileena, Kitana, Cage, and Kang I'll get those. And I wasn't a huge fan of part 3 but would take Sindel and Sonya. Just curious why you hated Sub-Zero and Scorpion from the start. Scorpion because back in the arcade people used the same three moves to win matches with him. Thankfully part 2 kind of worked it. Sub Zero I was just never a fan of. I thought the ice was cool but never liked his back story and then they changed it a little in part two. I actually liked the Mythologies game though. I wish they did more like it. |
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Post by Eric on Aug 11, 2020 10:57:38 GMT -5
Just curious why you hated Sub-Zero and Scorpion from the start. Scorpion because back in the arcade people used the same three moves to win matches with him. Thankfully part 2 kind of worked it. Sub Zero I was just never a fan of. I thought the ice was cool but never liked his back story and then they changed it a little in part two. I actually liked the Mythologies game though. I wish they did more like it. Those are good reasons. I'm starting to not like Scorpion because he's featured so much and apparently turning good (I don't follow it real close). It bugs me when franchises switch characters from bad to good just because they get popular with fans. And I liked Mythologies, too. It's a shame they didn't iron out the kinks and do other games like it. I got a lot of play out of my N64 cartridge. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 18, 2020 18:05:28 GMT -5
Scorpion because back in the arcade people used the same three moves to win matches with him. Thankfully part 2 kind of worked it. Sub Zero I was just never a fan of. I thought the ice was cool but never liked his back story and then they changed it a little in part two. I actually liked the Mythologies game though. I wish they did more like it. Those are good reasons. I'm starting to not like Scorpion because he's featured so much and apparently turning good (I don't follow it real close). It bugs me when franchises switch characters from bad to good just because they get popular with fans. And I liked Mythologies, too. It's a shame they didn't iron out the kinks and do other games like it. I got a lot of play out of my N64 cartridge. He was never evil though. As a human he was good and when resurrected as an undead he turned neutral, but was never fully evil. |
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Post by Eric on Aug 18, 2020 23:02:48 GMT -5
Those are good reasons. I'm starting to not like Scorpion because he's featured so much and apparently turning good (I don't follow it real close). It bugs me when franchises switch characters from bad to good just because they get popular with fans. And I liked Mythologies, too. It's a shame they didn't iron out the kinks and do other games like it. I got a lot of play out of my N64 cartridge. He was never evil though. As a human he was good and when resurrected as an undead he turned neutral, but was never fully evil. That's kind of what I mean. It was my impression they made him good as a human sometime well into the series (like after he got really popular, especially with Ed Boon  ). I don't recall any talk of him being a "good guy" anytime in the first few games. I've read some about it, and I was given the impression he killed the first Sub-Zero, decided to protect the second, but then changed his mind and decided he'd kill him after all, which doesn't strike me as neutral. They did flesh out a lot as the series went on, though, which makes sense. Like I said, I don't follow it too closely, so I'm probably getting it wrong. I'm sure you know more about it, so I won't be offended if you explain it. I love the story of MK, but it's a lot to follow. |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 22, 2020 16:39:18 GMT -5
He was never evil though. As a human he was good and when resurrected as an undead he turned neutral, but was never fully evil. That's kind of what I mean. It was my impression they made him good as a human sometime well into the series (like after he got really popular, especially with Ed Boon ). I don't recall any talk of him being a "good guy" anytime in the first few games. I've read some about it, and I was given the impression he killed the first Sub-Zero, decided to protect the second, but then changed his mind and decided he'd kill him after all, which doesn't strike me as neutral. They did flesh out a lot as the series went on, though, which makes sense. Like I said, I don't follow it too closely, so I'm probably getting it wrong. I'm sure you know more about it, so I won't be offended if you explain it. I love the story of MK, but it's a lot to follow. LOL no worries, the MK stories can be tricky at times, but this is as much as I know. MK1. Scorpion kills Sub Zero, the murderer of his family and clan. MK2. Discovers that Sub Zero is still alive, but after seeking him out, witnesses him showing an opponent mercy so realises that he is a different Sub Zero so decides to protect him. MK3. During the Earthrealm invasion Scorpions soul is freed from the netherrealm so sides with Earthrealm against Outworld. MK4. Decides to kill the 2nd Sub Zero to avenge his family and clan so his soul can rest, but discovers that Quan Chi was the real murderer. That's all, I never really followed the story's from the PS2 era and then the second timeline completely revamped the original trilogy. |
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Post by Eric on Aug 22, 2020 22:14:00 GMT -5
That's kind of what I mean. It was my impression they made him good as a human sometime well into the series (like after he got really popular, especially with Ed Boon ). I don't recall any talk of him being a "good guy" anytime in the first few games. I've read some about it, and I was given the impression he killed the first Sub-Zero, decided to protect the second, but then changed his mind and decided he'd kill him after all, which doesn't strike me as neutral. They did flesh out a lot as the series went on, though, which makes sense. Like I said, I don't follow it too closely, so I'm probably getting it wrong. I'm sure you know more about it, so I won't be offended if you explain it. I love the story of MK, but it's a lot to follow. LOL no worries, the MK stories can be tricky at times, but this is as much as I know. MK1. Scorpion kills Sub Zero, the murderer of his family and clan. MK2. Discovers that Sub Zero is still alive, but after seeking him out, witnesses him showing an opponent mercy so realises that he is a different Sub Zero so decides to protect him. MK3. During the Earthrealm invasion Scorpions soul is freed from the netherrealm so sides with Earthrealm against Outworld. MK4. Decides to kill the 2nd Sub Zero to avenge his family and clan so his soul can rest, but discovers that Quan Chi was the real murderer. That's all, I never really followed the story's from the PS2 era and then the second timeline completely revamped the original trilogy. That's what throws me. There have been multiple rewrites or revamps so now I have no idea what is considered cannon. haha For example, Sub-Zero was officially turned into Cyber Sub-Zero, right? So regular Sub-Zero didn't exist. But I think that was changed, too. It reminds me of pro wrestling in many ways. Are he and Scorpion friends yet? I feel like I read that. The next logical move is an alliance, which also won't last. |
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Post by Captain McKay on Aug 23, 2020 9:33:56 GMT -5
That's what throws me. There have been multiple rewrites or revamps so now I have no idea what is considered cannon. haha For example, Sub-Zero was officially turned into Cyber Sub-Zero, right? So regular Sub-Zero didn't exist. But I think that was changed, too. It reminds me of pro wrestling in many ways. Are he and Scorpion friends yet? I feel like I read that. The next logical move is an alliance, which also won't last. Yes, they’re allies in MK11. In MKX, Sub-Zero reveals to Scorpion that Quan Chi was the one behind his clan’s assassination by showing him video from Sektor’s memory banks. They’re allies after this. As for Cyber Sub-Zero, when he was killed in MK9, he became Quan Chi’s revenant. The revenants restored him to be a human rather than a cyborg (although still dead, somehow). When the heroes resurrected all the revenants, Sub-Zero was revived as a human, and not a cyborg. That’s the Netherrealm canon, which is anyone’s guess now that the ending of MK11 seems to reboot everything. So, to your point - an alliance didn’t last haha |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Aug 23, 2020 18:50:32 GMT -5
LOL no worries, the MK stories can be tricky at times, but this is as much as I know. MK1. Scorpion kills Sub Zero, the murderer of his family and clan. MK2. Discovers that Sub Zero is still alive, but after seeking him out, witnesses him showing an opponent mercy so realises that he is a different Sub Zero so decides to protect him. MK3. During the Earthrealm invasion Scorpions soul is freed from the netherrealm so sides with Earthrealm against Outworld. MK4. Decides to kill the 2nd Sub Zero to avenge his family and clan so his soul can rest, but discovers that Quan Chi was the real murderer. That's all, I never really followed the story's from the PS2 era and then the second timeline completely revamped the original trilogy. That's what throws me. There have been multiple rewrites or revamps so now I have no idea what is considered cannon. haha For example, Sub-Zero was officially turned into Cyber Sub-Zero, right? So regular Sub-Zero didn't exist. But I think that was changed, too. It reminds me of pro wrestling in many ways. Are he and Scorpion friends yet? I feel like I read that. The next logical move is an alliance, which also won't last. What really gets me is Reptile. Originally his reptilian form was a secret due to the human camouflage from Shao Kahn's power. It was only after Kahn's defeat when Reptile was unable to hid his lizard self, which was proven in MK4. However in MK9 which was a retelling of the original trilogy, Reptile is now in his full lizard form so it was as if they decided just to scrap his human look which was a shame. |
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Post by Eric on Aug 24, 2020 18:46:49 GMT -5
That's what throws me. There have been multiple rewrites or revamps so now I have no idea what is considered cannon. haha For example, Sub-Zero was officially turned into Cyber Sub-Zero, right? So regular Sub-Zero didn't exist. But I think that was changed, too. It reminds me of pro wrestling in many ways. Are he and Scorpion friends yet? I feel like I read that. The next logical move is an alliance, which also won't last. Yes, they’re allies in MK11. In MKX, Sub-Zero reveals to Scorpion that Quan Chi was the one behind his clan’s assassination by showing him video from Sektor’s memory banks. They’re allies after this. As for Cyber Sub-Zero, when he was killed in MK9, he became Quan Chi’s revenant. The revenants restored him to be a human rather than a cyborg (although still dead, somehow). When the heroes resurrected all the revenants, Sub-Zero was revived as a human, and not a cyborg. That’s the Netherrealm canon, which is anyone’s guess now that the ending of MK11 seems to reboot everything. So, to your point - an alliance didn’t last haha Excellent. Thanks for the explanation. I guess I understand the need to reboot or revamp, but there's something to be said for consistency, too.  That's what throws me. There have been multiple rewrites or revamps so now I have no idea what is considered cannon. haha For example, Sub-Zero was officially turned into Cyber Sub-Zero, right? So regular Sub-Zero didn't exist. But I think that was changed, too. It reminds me of pro wrestling in many ways. Are he and Scorpion friends yet? I feel like I read that. The next logical move is an alliance, which also won't last. What really gets me is Reptile. Originally his reptilian form was a secret due to the human camouflage from Shao Kahn's power. It was only after Kahn's defeat when Reptile was unable to hid his lizard self, which was proven in MK4. However in MK9 which was a retelling of the original trilogy, Reptile is now in his full lizard form so it was as if they decided just to scrap his human look which was a shame. Yeah, it's definitely a bummer for those who liked the green ninja look. I liked the MK4 costume with his ninja outfit but reptilian face visible. It makes sense to change from his original "rip-off" look, but it also makes sense to be a bit faithful to what drew people to him in the first place. |
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Sept 5, 2020 9:01:25 GMT -5
Mortal Kombat Figures Part 4 (2005-2013: The Jazwares Run)
I'd kill for a company like Jazwares to have the license for MK figures. Storm's price point and McFarlane's 7" scale just doesn't do it for me.
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Post by Eric on Sept 5, 2020 14:51:37 GMT -5
Mortal Kombat Figures Part 4 (2005-2013: The Jazwares Run) I'd kill for a company like Jazwares to have the license for MK figures. Storm's price point and McFarlane's 7" scale just doesn't do it for me. I'd prefer that, too. I wanted those old lines to succeed so badly, and they just couldn't get the support. I was really excited about the 4" MK line (it started with MK3 ninja repaints), and when I found them they just didn't look good enough to buy.  But up to that point I thought we'd get something like the old Hasbro figures, which would have been awesome. |
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Post by Decky on Sept 5, 2020 14:57:11 GMT -5
Just curious why you hated Sub-Zero and Scorpion from the start. Scorpion because back in the arcade people used the same three moves to win matches with him. Thankfully part 2 kind of worked it. Sub Zero I was just never a fan of. I thought the ice was cool but never liked his back story and then they changed it a little in part two. I actually liked the Mythologies game though. I wish they did more like it. You hate Sub Zero and Scorpion and enjoyed Mythologies? What is this, Bizarro World? lol |
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Post by Artie Kendall on Sept 6, 2020 12:34:28 GMT -5
Scorpion because back in the arcade people used the same three moves to win matches with him. Thankfully part 2 kind of worked it. Sub Zero I was just never a fan of. I thought the ice was cool but never liked his back story and then they changed it a little in part two. I actually liked the Mythologies game though. I wish they did more like it. You hate Sub Zero and Scorpion and enjoyed Mythologies? What is this, Bizarro World? lol My main issue about Sub Zero was the whole brother thing and the first one becoming Noob. The brother thing feels too soap opera like. You know one character is killed off because of backstage contract issues and then when the actor comes back he is playing his brother but it's essentially the same character. Scorpion in Mythologies...i didn't have to deal with dicks doing teleport/spear/uppercut so he was fine in that. I still don't like that they are the go to for merch/promotions/cross over stuff. |
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Post by LA Times on Sept 16, 2020 9:33:14 GMT -5
Mortal Kombat Figures Part 4 (2005-2013: The Jazwares Run) I'd kill for a company like Jazwares to have the license for MK figures. Storm's price point and McFarlane's 7" scale just doesn't do it for me. I'd prefer that, too. I wanted those old lines to succeed so badly, and they just couldn't get the support. I was really excited about the 4" MK line (it started with MK3 ninja repaints), and when I found them they just didn't look good enough to buy. But up to that point I thought we'd get something like the old Hasbro figures, which would have been awesome. I regret not getting into the 6" Jazwares 2011-2013 MK figures |
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Post by Eric on Sept 16, 2020 19:09:24 GMT -5
I'd prefer that, too. I wanted those old lines to succeed so badly, and they just couldn't get the support. I was really excited about the 4" MK line (it started with MK3 ninja repaints), and when I found them they just didn't look good enough to buy. But up to that point I thought we'd get something like the old Hasbro figures, which would have been awesome. I regret not getting into the 6" Jazwares 2011-2013 MK figures Pretty much every time it's been the same thing: start with Sub-Zero and Scorpion and maybe Raiden, and then the line fizzles. So with no commitment beyond that from the makers, I couldn't commit, either. And then you get one that lasts a little longer, and it's too late to jump in. Or it just fizzles a little later. There are so many characters, a line needs to get to about 20 figures before it's worth it. Jazwares came closest, but I prefer older looks to Deception and the later games. I'm fine with including those, but you gotta have the classic looks, too. |
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Post by LA Times on Sept 16, 2020 19:29:01 GMT -5
I regret not getting into the 6" Jazwares 2011-2013 MK figures Pretty much every time it's been the same thing: start with Sub-Zero and Scorpion and maybe Raiden, and then the line fizzles. So with no commitment beyond that from the makers, I couldn't commit, either. And then you get one that lasts a little longer, and it's too late to jump in. Or it just fizzles a little later. There are so many characters, a line needs to get to about 20 figures before it's worth it. Jazwares came closest, but I prefer older looks to Deception and the later games. I'm fine with including those, but you gotta have the classic looks, too. That 4pack with the MK classic ninjas was the crown jewel of the line. |
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Post by Eric on Sept 17, 2020 17:25:11 GMT -5
Pretty much every time it's been the same thing: start with Sub-Zero and Scorpion and maybe Raiden, and then the line fizzles. So with no commitment beyond that from the makers, I couldn't commit, either. And then you get one that lasts a little longer, and it's too late to jump in. Or it just fizzles a little later. There are so many characters, a line needs to get to about 20 figures before it's worth it. Jazwares came closest, but I prefer older looks to Deception and the later games. I'm fine with including those, but you gotta have the classic looks, too. That 4pack with the MK classic ninjas was the crown jewel of the line. Yeah, that thing was sick. I wonder if I could get it on eBay for retail now... |
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Post by theoutlaw1999 on Sept 17, 2020 20:37:43 GMT -5
Pretty much every time it's been the same thing: start with Sub-Zero and Scorpion and maybe Raiden, and then the line fizzles. So with no commitment beyond that from the makers, I couldn't commit, either. And then you get one that lasts a little longer, and it's too late to jump in. Or it just fizzles a little later. There are so many characters, a line needs to get to about 20 figures before it's worth it. Jazwares came closest, but I prefer older looks to Deception and the later games. I'm fine with including those, but you gotta have the classic looks, too. That 4pack with the MK classic ninjas was the crown jewel of the line. I got that pack back in 2012 and opened it. To this day I regret doing so because the box set itself looked so cool. Incase you didn't know, that pack also included secret 2 inch figures of each ninja. |
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