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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 31, 2014 9:47:56 GMT -5
Just a thought - if two consecutive PPVs occur within 30 days of each other, does that mean ypu could realistically get both PPVs under the one $9.99 payment? Yes. That happened earlier this year. The thing I don't really understand with this new report is the change to no commitment for subscribers. I'm not real up on modern business models, but won't that result in a lot of people picking and choosing month to month and basically buying PPV events for $9.99? Yes -- but that has already been happening. Despite WWE's "six month commitment" anytime anyone cancels their Paypal payment or changes their debit card etc, WWE can't take that money anyway. People have been leaving the network month by month ever since WrestleMania (128,000 people left well before the first six months were up), so the commitment was unenforcable, pointless and may have stopped some people subscribing. Now, the theory is that people who were scared off thinking they had to be tied in for six months may now give it a shot.
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Post by ellisd on Oct 31, 2014 10:25:18 GMT -5
Something I would loved to see added to the network in addition to more episodes of ECW Hardcore TV, WCCW, etc, I would love to see old episodes of SuperStars and Wrestling Challenge. I know match wise it was always Superstar vs jobber, but a lot of the interview segments that would advance storylines happened on those shows. I saw one of the video vaults that air between shows on the network, it was the Funeral Parlor with Hogan and Flair and it made me think of how I'd love to see more of those segments. Those were the shows I watched as a little kid and would love to revisit some of them. Vince has a message for us you can almost SEE the desperation in his face it's not a good look this "Free" month is going to backfire. Why not just sign up for the month, watch everything you'd want to watch because who really sits down for 3 hours and watches Summerslam '95 from beginning to end, and at the end of the month you're done. No real need to keep going. With the new monthly plan without a commitment they just better expect to see crazy peaks and valleys with subs. Maybe it will be good because when they see the subs dropping like flies during a month where the PPV is crapty and has no good build, it will open their eyes. The biggest problem here is Vince. As great as he has been, he has always been a salesman/promoter and put HIS ideas of entertainment over what actually is relevant and entertaining. Wrestling is not this powerhouse of all media. It's a niche thing that is made up of people who LOVED it in the 80's & 90's...who stayed around, and now have kids. The problem is that this company is catering to kids and teens. Kids and teens could not give a flying about the Network. Here's just an idea to throw around. But since the company is PG and focused toward kids, what if they did a edgier show on the network. It doesnt have to be full on Attitude Era or anything, but any segment or storyline that might be to edgey for the PG TV stuff could be on there. They could run a disclaimer before the show. I know Main Event and Superstars are both original on the Network, but both of those are PG and usually expendable shows.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Oct 31, 2014 11:23:26 GMT -5
Just wait til they launch it in the UK. They'll double that number. Definitely not. There aren't even that many people in the UK watching Raw. Because it's on from 1am til 4am on a work night. Imagine the difference when people in the UK have WWE available to us whenever we want it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2014 11:26:34 GMT -5
My Mom works at Comcast so i get PPVS for only $9.99 no joke.
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Post by Infinite on Oct 31, 2014 11:28:29 GMT -5
Well crap we're actually getting it just as cheap in the UK. Looking forward to it, hope we don't somehow end up with some bs half version.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Oct 31, 2014 12:44:54 GMT -5
Definitely not. There aren't even that many people in the UK watching Raw. Because it's on from 1am til 4am on a work night. Imagine the difference when people in the UK have WWE available to us whenever we want it. To clarify: There aren't even that many people in the UK watching Raw on the live showing and the repeat later in the week combined. UK network subscribers will be a fraction of the Raw audience, same as in the US. It won't be every single person who watches Raw plus hundreds of thousands more on top of that. And it will be cut into by the thousands of people in the UK who are already US members.
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Post by LA Times on Oct 31, 2014 20:12:12 GMT -5
Something I would loved to see added to the network in addition to more episodes of ECW Hardcore TV, WCCW, etc, I would love to see old episodes of SuperStars and Wrestling Challenge. I know match wise it was always Superstar vs jobber, but a lot of the interview segments that would advance storylines happened on those shows. I saw one of the video vaults that air between shows on the network, it was the Funeral Parlor with Hogan and Flair and it made me think of how I'd love to see more of those segments. Those were the shows I watched as a little kid and would love to revisit some of them. Vince has a message for us you can almost SEE the desperation in his face it's not a good look this "Free" month is going to backfire. Why not just sign up for the month, watch everything you'd want to watch because who really sits down for 3 hours and watches Summerslam '95 from beginning to end, and at the end of the month you're done. No real need to keep going. With the new monthly plan without a commitment they just better expect to see crazy peaks and valleys with subs. Maybe it will be good because when they see the subs dropping like flies during a month where the PPV is crapty and has no good build, it will open their eyes. The biggest problem here is Vince. As great as he has been, he has always been a salesman/promoter and put HIS ideas of entertainment over what actually is relevant and entertaining. Wrestling is not this powerhouse of all media. It's a niche thing that is made up of people who LOVED it in the 80's & 90's...who stayed around, and now have kids. The problem is that this company is catering to kids and teens. Kids and teens could not give a flying about the Network. Here's just an idea to throw around. But since the company is PG and focused toward kids, what if they did a edgier show on the network. It doesnt have to be full on Attitude Era or anything, but any segment or storyline that might be to edgey for the PG TV stuff could be on there. They could run a disclaimer before the show. I know Main Event and Superstars are both original on the Network, but both of those are PG and usually expendable shows. That sounds like WWE Total Divas
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Post by ellisd on Oct 31, 2014 20:44:16 GMT -5
Something I would loved to see added to the network in addition to more episodes of ECW Hardcore TV, WCCW, etc, I would love to see old episodes of SuperStars and Wrestling Challenge. I know match wise it was always Superstar vs jobber, but a lot of the interview segments that would advance storylines happened on those shows. I saw one of the video vaults that air between shows on the network, it was the Funeral Parlor with Hogan and Flair and it made me think of how I'd love to see more of those segments. Those were the shows I watched as a little kid and would love to revisit some of them. Here's just an idea to throw around. But since the company is PG and focused toward kids, what if they did a edgier show on the network. It doesnt have to be full on Attitude Era or anything, but any segment or storyline that might be to edgey for the PG TV stuff could be on there. They could run a disclaimer before the show. I know Main Event and Superstars are both original on the Network, but both of those are PG and usually expendable shows. That sounds like WWE Total Divas Well I was meaning for actual wrestling content but I see what you mean lol
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Post by TheAverageGatsby on Oct 31, 2014 22:55:27 GMT -5
And now the month of November. Is free for new subscribers. it's time to admit just like the xfl and the wbf. the network is a huge fail. The folks that matter at WWE, meaning the McMahon family, which holds an overwhelming majority of the stock, knew that the Network was a long con. It wasn’t going to be super successful immediately, but eventually, in the end, it was going to win out, and win out big because they were the first people in this brand new space. Did they go all-in with the network too early? Maybe, but WWE isn’t a company known for its restraint. They’re also not a company known for abandoning things at the first sign of trouble. Sure, you can point out XFL and the Bodybuilding League, but those are more exceptions than the rule, and the Network is nowhere near the disaster that those were. Plus, on top of all that…let’s say that the network does turn out to be a disaster and WWE has to cancel it and go back to the old way of doing business. That seems super farfetched to me, but let’s say it happens. Even then, I don’t think WWE is going anywhere as long as they have a TV deal and the fact of the matter is that NBC Universal LOVES WWE. Five hours of brand new, consistently rated content every week that they don’t have to pay or deal with the production of. If TNA can stay in business, I think WWE probably can too.
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Post by Chip on Nov 1, 2014 0:37:46 GMT -5
the WWE was doing fine before the Network, they'd be fine if it ended.
thats not saying this is the death knell for the network, but if they simply could not afford to keep running the network and had to jettison it, things would just go back to how they were in 2013 B.N.
not having a Network isn't going to stop people from watching RAW or going to shows bad writing, horrible stories, a million re-matches and nothing particularly amazing is what makes people do that
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Post by greenjack1992 on Nov 1, 2014 9:23:52 GMT -5
Because it's on from 1am til 4am on a work night. Imagine the difference when people in the UK have WWE available to us whenever we want it. To clarify: There aren't even that many people in the UK watching Raw on the live showing and the repeat later in the week combined. UK network subscribers will be a fraction of the Raw audience, same as in the US. It won't be every single person who watches Raw plus hundreds of thousands more on top of that. And it will be cut into by the thousands of people in the UK who are already US members. Fair enough.
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Post by ZMaster on Nov 1, 2014 13:45:14 GMT -5
I actually like the WWE Network but I do think there is room for improvement. I know a few things I would personally like to see.
- Upload more episodes of the earlier Raws. Even if they do some at a time, that would be fine. - Upload more episodes of the earlier Smackdowns. Same can be said for Raw. - Continue to work on getting the episodes of Nitro up. Same can be said for Raw.
It would be a start. I would be cool with more older material of the other promotions having shows uploaded. I would suggest doing that on a schedule such as figuring when would be the best time to get them online.
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Post by rustyy on Nov 1, 2014 17:07:33 GMT -5
More hardcore TV please lol, if it doesn't go up soon I won't renew. Even though I know where to watch it for free, I want best quality possible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 17:26:27 GMT -5
The Network is a great idea, anyone that says it should be scrapped is crazy. It needs time to grow, it's the future
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 1, 2014 17:47:26 GMT -5
Just wait til they launch it in the UK. They'll double that number. Help me out with your math please. They have 730k subscribers to (mostly) a country with 316 million people. So once they release it to the UK, who only have 64 million people, the number is going to double?
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Post by shenmue on Nov 1, 2014 21:02:40 GMT -5
More hardcore TV please lol, if it doesn't go up soon I won't renew. Even though I know where to watch it for free, I want best quality possible. You just made me remember that a lot of Hardcore fans own every old PPV and episode of Raw and Smack down from torrent sites, yes the Raws and Smackdowns would be much better quality on the network from say 1994-2005 but you can all the shows since then and all the PPV's in good/great quality anyway. Same with ECW and Hardcore TV. I've been to a few house shows this year and a lot of people i have spoken to say that the old stuff isn't a great enough reason to subscribe as they have it all or can get it all if they wanted, i myself only subscribe for the new PPV's as i have a lot of the old stuff on discs in some way or another, either retail WWE dvd's/Blu or from torrents/tape/disc sellers. It doesn't help that there is so few Raw and Smackdowns on the newtwork, I've just checked and i have all Raws and Smackdowns from 1996-2010 (got the rest on a hardrives) on Discs in good to great quality, yeah it would be nice to have them in better quality on the network but its not a must have.
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Post by Last Trent Barreta Fan on Nov 1, 2014 21:40:00 GMT -5
WELL MAYBE IF THEY'D PUT SOME ING XFL GAMES ON THERE I'D GET THE NETWORK.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Nov 3, 2014 15:13:49 GMT -5
Latest WWE Network fail: UK launch aborted fifteen minutes before it was due to go live.
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Post by RybackV1 on Nov 3, 2014 15:31:19 GMT -5
Latest WWE Network fail: UK launch aborted fifteen minutes before it was due to go live. Holy . This is scary Why would they do that ?!? Dudeee they better not take my network away!!
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Post by Infinite on Nov 3, 2014 15:33:55 GMT -5
dafuq
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