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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 9:17:15 GMT -5
Knew Rusev would probably win, but I didn't watch it because I can't stand Rusev. The guys is just flat out boring and I can't stand that they are trying to push him down my throat. As far as I am concerned I've seen more than enough of him to say I will never find him entertaining. To be honest if it wasn't for Lana then Rusev would be nothing. Rusev already is nothing. Rusev is an undefeated streak for someone to beat and get elevated because of that. After that, since WWE didn't bother giving him a character beyond "I don't like americans", he will essentially be useless, and if he can wrestle beyond squashes, which I haven't been paying enough attention to know, then he'll probably stick around in the lower mid card. The entire cheap heat getting anti-american character is a big dead end when it comes to writing because all it makes sense to do is to have him fight americans, pretty much the same feud OVER and OVER and OVER... Lana would be better off then Rusev since she can talk and could easily drop the russian thing and manage someone else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 9:31:59 GMT -5
To be honest if it wasn't for Lana then Rusev would be nothing. Rusev already is nothing. Rusev is an undefeated streak for someone to beat and get elevated because of that. After that, since WWE didn't bother giving him a character beyond "I don't like americans", he will essentially be useless, and if he can wrestle beyond squashes, which I haven't been paying enough attention to know, then he'll probably stick around in the lower mid card. The entire cheap heat getting anti-american character is a big dead end when it comes to writing because all it makes sense to do is to have him fight americans, pretty much the same feud OVER and OVER and OVER... Lana would be better off then Rusev since she can talk and could easily drop the russian thing and manage someone else. Rusev can work. I get the impression most don't pay attention, but he tells a story and sells better than 75% of the roster. His problem lately is facing Henry and Show.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:17:28 GMT -5
Knew Rusev would probably win, but I didn't watch it because I can't stand Rusev. The guys is just flat out boring and I can't stand that they are trying to push him down my throat. As far as I am concerned I've seen more than enough of him to say I will never find him entertaining. To be honest if it wasn't for Lana then Rusev would be nothing. Fact.
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Post by Chip on Nov 4, 2014 13:42:42 GMT -5
Rusev still sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 14:47:13 GMT -5
Rusev already is nothing. Rusev is an undefeated streak for someone to beat and get elevated because of that. After that, since WWE didn't bother giving him a character beyond "I don't like americans", he will essentially be useless, and if he can wrestle beyond squashes, which I haven't been paying enough attention to know, then he'll probably stick around in the lower mid card. The entire cheap heat getting anti-american character is a big dead end when it comes to writing because all it makes sense to do is to have him fight americans, pretty much the same feud OVER and OVER and OVER... Lana would be better off then Rusev since she can talk and could easily drop the russian thing and manage someone else. Rusev can work. I get the impression most don't pay attention, but he tells a story and sells better than 75% of the roster. His problem lately is facing Henry and Show. I've seen him big time no sell a lot of stuff
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 14:48:54 GMT -5
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Post by 0,Y on Nov 4, 2014 16:37:01 GMT -5
Way to throw a 'high profile match' away. And Rusev sucks.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 16:41:13 GMT -5
im happy rusev won, I really didn't want sheamus to be the one to beat rusevs streak
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 4, 2014 16:50:23 GMT -5
Knew Rusev would probably win, but I didn't watch it because I can't stand Rusev. The guys is just flat out boring and I can't stand that they are trying to push him down my throat. As far as I am concerned I've seen more than enough of him to say I will never find him entertaining. The match was entertaining. I think Rusev "Showed up" last night. As far as ring work, this is one of the first matches where Rusev wasn't on top the entire time. There was alot of both offense and defense, and I'm excited to see where this goes. WWE chickened out with Hassan's Anti America run, and they realized the heat this gimmick can create. His America bashing, along with the Flag pull tease and Soldier drop has built his story tremendously. His character is right where it needs to be, and I can only hope that he debuts the Russian Federation Title on Smackdown or Raw to further his story. I could get behind a lasting feud with Sheamus based off their match last night. But I really want to see him go after an "American Sweetheart". Someone other than Cena, because he would bury him. Maybe going back to Swagger could work. Either way, I want the Rusev train to keep on rolling.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 4, 2014 17:08:58 GMT -5
Knew Rusev would probably win, but I didn't watch it because I can't stand Rusev. The guys is just flat out boring and I can't stand that they are trying to push him down my throat. As far as I am concerned I've seen more than enough of him to say I will never find him entertaining. The match was entertaining. I think Rusev "Showed up" last night. As far as ring work, this is one of the first matches where Rusev wasn't on top the entire time. There was alot of both offense and defense, and I'm excited to see where this goes. WWE chickened out with Hassan's Anti America run, and they realized the heat this gimmick can create. His America bashing, along with the Flag pull tease and Soldier drop has built his story tremendously. His character is right where it needs to be, and I can only hope that he debuts the Russian Federation Title on Smackdown or Raw to further his story. I could get behind a lasting feud with Sheamus based off their match last night. But I really want to see him go after an "American Sweetheart". Someone other than Cena, because he would bury him. Maybe going back to Swagger could work. Either way, I want the Rusev train to keep on rolling. The difference is, I never saw Muhammad Hassan's gimmick as an "America basher". Rusev and Lana bash Americans for no reason. Hassan was a guy who had a legit beef with American people who treated him like crap purely because he was an Arab American after 9/11. The best villains are the ones who believe they are right and, in the very best cases, are actually right. Like Hassan.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 4, 2014 17:12:18 GMT -5
The match was entertaining. I think Rusev "Showed up" last night. As far as ring work, this is one of the first matches where Rusev wasn't on top the entire time. There was alot of both offense and defense, and I'm excited to see where this goes. WWE chickened out with Hassan's Anti America run, and they realized the heat this gimmick can create. His America bashing, along with the Flag pull tease and Soldier drop has built his story tremendously. His character is right where it needs to be, and I can only hope that he debuts the Russian Federation Title on Smackdown or Raw to further his story. I could get behind a lasting feud with Sheamus based off their match last night. But I really want to see him go after an "American Sweetheart". Someone other than Cena, because he would bury him. Maybe going back to Swagger could work. Either way, I want the Rusev train to keep on rolling. The difference is, I never saw Muhammad Hassan's gimmick as an "America basher". Rusev and Lana bash Americans for no reason. Hassan was a guy who had a legit beef with American people who treated him like crap purely because he was an Arab American after 9/11. The best villains are the ones who believe they are right and, in the very best cases, are actually right. Like Hassan. Ok, I see your point. Two seperate gimmicks, but they could be classified as Anti-American gimmicks. Rusev is the "I'm better than American's" esq gimmick.
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Post by June on Nov 4, 2014 17:55:17 GMT -5
Sheamus went into this match looking weak by losing a 1 sided match via countout to a jobber.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 19:29:37 GMT -5
Hopefully there will be a rematch @ Survivor Series.....why didn't they build this a bit better?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 4, 2014 20:00:20 GMT -5
Hopefully there will be a rematch @ Survivor Series.....why didn't they build this a bit better? I concur. If they would've announced it last week on Raw, promoted it during Main Event and Smackdown, as well as part of their usual USA Raw commercials, it would've been better than announcing it right before Raw.
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Post by speaktomeworriers on Nov 4, 2014 21:23:09 GMT -5
They are just trying to show everyone that "anything can happen" on the network, they think more ppl will buy the network cuz omg a title changed hands on the network and not on raw or smack down , I think they wanted a title to change, and they wouldn't obv choose the heavyweight, and no one would be shocked over the tag team title, and they need to keep dolph with the title for now, so sheamus was the obvious choice.....the network will still suck, but they had to do something
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 21:25:08 GMT -5
I can barely sit through 3 hours, I dunno how people sit through RAW and the pre/post shows. Now they might have even more after RAW? Goodness.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 4, 2014 21:38:59 GMT -5
Rusev can work. I get the impression most don't pay attention, but he tells a story and sells better than 75% of the roster. More than 75%, even. Rusev has been the best seller this year, I'd say. For the most part, I haven't been into any of his matches since he stopped feuding with Swagger, but the guy's work is impeccable.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 21:44:25 GMT -5
Rusev has grown on me a lot but he needs to learn to flow better on the mic. I know he's a big brute, but he sounds forced and like he's figuring out what to say when he says it.
That being said, he's improved and keeps improving. I really like how they're building him. He's a threat, but there's been tines where he's gotten his ass kicked, but he pulls through.
I'm very impressed on how he's been booked so far. I think they are building a major heel of the future.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 21:46:25 GMT -5
Rusev can work. I get the impression most don't pay attention, but he tells a story and sells better than 75% of the roster. More than 75%, even. Rusev has been the best seller this year, I'd say. For the most part, I haven't been into any of his matches since he stopped feuding with Swagger, but the guy's work is impeccable. He's got a way to go, but working with Henry and Big Show isn't gonna help him much. Hopefully this feud with Sheamus is better showing his skills.
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Post by Chip on Nov 4, 2014 21:51:55 GMT -5
how are people saying he "Sells good"
95% of his matches have been SQUASH MATCHES where he's literally just beaten up whatever opponent they've put against him. Most of the other times he was taking punches, kicks, and suplexes like every other superstar on the roster.
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