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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 1:09:23 GMT -5
What are some wrestling myths that have remained unanswered?
I'll start.
It has been a myth that Owen Hart (as the Blue Blazer) was scheduled to win the Intercontinental title from The Godfather at Over the Edge 1999 before he tragically fell to his death.
Is this a fact or myth? I've never heard confirmation on this either way.
Let's bust these myths open!
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Post by Duck Holliday on Nov 4, 2014 5:08:54 GMT -5
What are some wrestling myths that have remained unanswered? I'll start. It has been a myth that Owen Hart (as the Blue Blazer) was scheduled to win the Intercontinental title from The Godfather at Over the Edge 1999 before he tragically fell to his death. Is this a fact or myth? I've never heard confirmation on this either way. Let's bust these myths open! love this idea. I heard that a few times about Owen, but always second hand so I'm not sure. I was always surprised that Owen was supposed to get the Game gimmick, but Hunter took it in tribute after his death. Now I know that's basically confirmed, but it always surprised me that Hunter would feel so positively about Owen... Always felt more like Hunter took it cause he knew it'd be over more than as a true tribute. IDK. Anyhow, how about Lex specifically never getting a title reign cause Vince was being lead on by Hogan maybe returning?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 6:24:26 GMT -5
The Blue Blazer IC reign is true according to Bruce Prichard, Paul Bearer and others.
The Lex title reign theory/Hogan returning has definite merit. Summerslam 1993 remains the most confusing ending to a pre 96 PPV I have ever seen. The balloons and everything....its like the arena was set up to receive a Lex title win...and Vince JUST changed his mind.
One persistent myth that annoys me is that Austin refused to drop the title to HHH @ Summerslam 1999. Austin helped Vince choose between HHH, JJ & Billy Gunn for the next big heel to challenge him and endorsed HHH. Because a pilled up 99 era HBK(that HHH actually blackballed from involvement with him) said Austin wouldn't do the job everybody believes it. Austin was losing eitherway.....his neck was screwed and everybody knew it. He needed time off after Summerslam 99 and the Foley switch was done to cover his absence so Rock could be involved and Storylines continue apace.
Personally I would like to know more about the situation the day of Starrcade 1997. We all know the story about Hogan/creative being true......but was it also true that Sting turned up in the legendary no condition to perform?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:04:58 GMT -5
The Blue Blazer IC reign is true according to Bruce Prichard, Paul Bearer and others. The Lex title reign theory/Hogan returning has definite merit. Summerslam 1993 remains the most confusing ending to a pre 96 PPV I have ever seen. The balloons and everything....its like the arena was set up to receive a Lex title win...and Vince JUST changed his mind. One persistent myth that annoys me is that Austin refused to drop the title to HHH @ Summerslam 1999. Austin helped Vince choose between HHH, JJ & Billy Gunn for the next big heel to challenge him and endorsed HHH. Because a pilled up 99 era HBK(that HHH actually blackballed from involvement with him) said Austin wouldn't do the job everybody believes it. Austin was losing eitherway.....his neck was screwed and everybody knew it. He needed time off after Summerslam 99 and the Foley switch was done to cover his absence so Rock could be involved and Storylines continue apace. Personally I would like to know more about the situation the day of Starrcade 1997. We all know the story about Hogan/creative being true......but was it also true that Sting turned up in the legendary no condition to perform? I always heard that's the reason he wore the full body suit if you're speaking physique wise. He was flabby as hell. And if you're speaking under the influence wise, I always suspected this. Yes he's Sting. But he sure as hell didn't wrestle like him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:07:53 GMT -5
I never heard the Sting myth from Starrcade 1997.
Is it true Stone Cold refused to work with Jeff Jarrett?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 4, 2014 11:26:34 GMT -5
I never heard the Sting myth from Starrcade 1997. Is it true Stone Cold refused to work with Jeff Jarrett? I've heard this too. But man, Austin made the right choice. Triple H was easily the right guy. Jeff Jarrett is a mid-carder who overachieved and Billy Gunn sucks something terrible.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:30:53 GMT -5
I never heard the Sting myth from Starrcade 1997. Is it true Stone Cold refused to work with Jeff Jarrett? Indeed it is Bash. They had legit heat heading all the way back to the USWA. However the heat wad 50\50 & not as one sided as is publicized. Vince was correct in choosing HHH over Gunn & Jarrett. If JJ had been more over than HHH as a heel then Austin would have been wrong to veto working with him
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 11:39:50 GMT -5
Interesting.
Yeah, no doubt. I never saw Gunn or Jarrett as main event talents.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 4, 2014 11:41:40 GMT -5
I always felt the biggest myth to me was the talk of Eddie Guerrero vs. HBK at Wrestlemania 22. I still don't see how that one was possible, when they had Eddie feuding/teaming with Batista, and also feuding with Orton, and Vince was clearly putting the wheels in motion to have him vs. HBK with the Bret Hart DVD coming out, and how Vince couldn't let the Montreal thing go.
Speaking of Owen, there is another myth that his ghost actually haunts the Kemper Arena. It has been discussed before on other sites, and such, and maybe it's true, maybe not, but still weird to think of it.
To me, another myth was how having Honky retain the IC Title, ended up screwing DiBiase out of the WWE Title at WM 4. Clearly they were planning to have Savage win it, right from September when he shook Hogan's hand on SNME. Yet, DiBiase claims he was meant to win the WWE Title in the tournament. So does Bam Bam Bigelow though. And again, that one could have been true too, since he was teaming with Hogan vs. DiBiase and Virgil, or DiBiase and Andre on house shows.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:30:30 GMT -5
Honky backs up that version too....and he & Dibiase despise one another
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:42:09 GMT -5
The Blue Blazer IC reign is true according to Bruce Prichard, Paul Bearer and others. The Lex title reign theory/Hogan returning has definite merit. Summerslam 1993 remains the most confusing ending to a pre 96 PPV I have ever seen. The balloons and everything....its like the arena was set up to receive a Lex title win...and Vince JUST changed his mind. One persistent myth that annoys me is that Austin refused to drop the title to HHH @ Summerslam 1999. Austin helped Vince choose between HHH, JJ & Billy Gunn for the next big heel to challenge him and endorsed HHH. Because a pilled up 99 era HBK(that HHH actually blackballed from involvement with him) said Austin wouldn't do the job everybody believes it. Austin was losing eitherway.....his neck was screwed and everybody knew it. He needed time off after Summerslam 99 and the Foley switch was done to cover his absence so Rock could be involved and Storylines continue apace. Personally I would like to know more about the situation the day of Starrcade 1997. We all know the story about Hogan/creative being true......but was it also true that Sting turned up in the legendary no condition to perform? I always heard that's the reason he wore the full body suit if you're speaking physique wise. He was flabby as hell. And if you're speaking under the influence wise, I always suspected this. Yes he's Sting. But he sure as hell didn't wrestle like him. Wait, Sting was flabby? What's the whole story, I'm kinda lost here
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:45:45 GMT -5
I always felt the biggest myth to me was the talk of Eddie Guerrero vs. HBK at Wrestlemania 22. I still don't see how that one was possible, when they had Eddie feuding/teaming with Batista, and also feuding with Orton, and Vince was clearly putting the wheels in motion to have him vs. HBK with the Bret Hart DVD coming out, and how Vince couldn't let the Montreal thing go. Speaking of Owen, there is another myth that his ghost actually haunts the Kemper Arena. It has been discussed before on other sites, and such, and maybe it's true, maybe not, but still weird to think of it. To me, another myth was how having Honky retain the IC Title, ended up screwing DiBiase out of the WWE Title at WM 4. Clearly they were planning to have Savage win it, right from September when he shook Hogan's hand on SNME. Yet, DiBiase claims he was meant to win the WWE Title in the tournament. So does Bam Bam Bigelow though. And again, that one could have been true too, since he was teaming with Hogan vs. DiBiase and Virgil, or DiBiase and Andre on house shows. I believe 100% as well that Savage was always going to win that tournament. Anyone could see that's the route they were going to go, back then the WWF couldn't survive really well with a heel world champion. Hogan was leaving for a little bit and they needed Savage to fill that face role. It MIGHT have been discussed Dibiase winning, but I don't see that going beyond that. Mine is that Andre weighted 500 lbs when Hogan slammed him at Mania 3, we all know Andre was 932 lbs and just about to die. Hogan wouldn't lie about something like that!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:46:42 GMT -5
I always heard that's the reason he wore the full body suit if you're speaking physique wise. He was flabby as hell. And if you're speaking under the influence wise, I always suspected this. Yes he's Sting. But he sure as hell didn't wrestle like him. Wait, Sting was flabby? What's the whole story, I'm kinda lost here I had always heard two things regarding this, don't know the truth to it but here goes: The reason he came out in the body suit was because he was ten different shades of outta shape(which you can see by the lack of arm definition). Also, this was around the time Sting was a drug addict. That's why he didn't wrestle the way he used to and why Hogan was on offense the whole match. The Hogan politicking the finish is well documented. But the way Sting looked and wrestled has led to a good bit of speculation throughout the last 17 years.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:48:02 GMT -5
Wait, Sting was flabby? What's the whole story, I'm kinda lost here I had always heard two things regarding this, don't know the truth to it but here goes: The reason he came out in the body suit was because he was ten different shades of outta shape(which you can see by the lack of arm definition). Also, this was around the time Sting was a drug addict. That's why he didn't wrestle the way he used to and why Hogan was on offense the whole match. The Hogan politicking the finish is well documented. But the way Sting looked and wrestled has led to a good bit of speculation throughout the last 17 years. Well that's strange. I haven't watched the match in a while so I guess I just forgot.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:51:19 GMT -5
I had always heard two things regarding this, don't know the truth to it but here goes: The reason he came out in the body suit was because he was ten different shades of outta shape(which you can see by the lack of arm definition). Also, this was around the time Sting was a drug addict. That's why he didn't wrestle the way he used to and why Hogan was on offense the whole match. The Hogan politicking the finish is well documented. But the way Sting looked and wrestled has led to a good bit of speculation throughout the last 17 years. Well that's strange. I haven't watched the match in a while so I guess I just forgot. Yeah as a kid I loved it(mainly because I was oblivious as hell). Going back and watching it now breaks my heart. I look at it now and a lot of what I have heard makes a good deal of sense.I never knew sting was an addict until I heard he found Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:52:32 GMT -5
Well that's strange. I haven't watched the match in a while so I guess I just forgot. Yeah as a kid I loved it(mainly because I was oblivious as hell). Going back and watching it now breaks my heart. I look at it now and a lot of what I have heard makes a good deal of sense.I never knew sting was an addict until I heard he found Jesus. I never knew Sting was an addict until now.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:56:20 GMT -5
Yeah as a kid I loved it(mainly because I was oblivious as hell). Going back and watching it now breaks my heart. I look at it now and a lot of what I have heard makes a good deal of sense.I never knew sting was an addict until I heard he found Jesus. I never knew Sting was an addict until now. Sucks don't it? He's my all time fav. Its a superman punch to morale when you find out your heroes have faults like everyone else.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 4, 2014 12:57:34 GMT -5
I never knew Sting was an addict until now. Sucks don't it? He's my all time fav. Its a superman punch to morale when you find out your heroes have faults like everyone else. My all time is favorite is Jeff Hardy, I know the feel lol
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 4, 2014 13:02:47 GMT -5
The best Owen Hart myth is the one where he was going to get Triple H's "The Game" gimmick/push in 1999. It makes zero sense on every level and is clearly laughable to anyone with a functioning brain, yet apparently Triple H mentioned it in tons of interviews that somehow nobody has ever seen or been able to find. It's like the "Kel from Kenan and Kel died" of wrestling, except a lot of people (I think mostly kids who weren't born/watching at the time) actually believe it.
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Post by hbkbigdaddycool on Nov 4, 2014 13:09:12 GMT -5
Another myth I heard years ago that at Wrestlemania X, a testicle of HBK went up inside of him, or he at least damaged a testie when he did the crotch bump off the ladder. Which is why he didn't wrestle until like August of that year, and was managing Diesel that entire time.
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