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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 5, 2014 6:39:56 GMT -5
that the screwjob was a hoax the 7 year old canadian bret hart mark still in me can't consider it. I've always had a hard time believing that it could be a hoax. Mostly cause how long it took for them to patch things up. Also, you can tell Bret is still hurt by it to this day. He's an emotional guy and I love him, but he's not that good of an actor to be that convincing. factor in the very real fight between Vince and Bret afterwards, Vince's threat to sue Bret because of it and for talking to Owen about getting out of his contract,and Bret's refusal to return in 2002 for WrestleMania X8 ... for a "hoax", there was a definite perception of real bad blood between the 2 for a long time afterwards. |
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 5, 2014 7:37:17 GMT -5
I've always had a hard time believing that it could be a hoax. Mostly cause how long it took for them to patch things up. Also, you can tell Bret is still hurt by it to this day. He's an emotional guy and I love him, but he's not that good of an actor to be that convincing. factor in the very real fight between Vince and Bret afterwards, Vince's threat to sue Bret because of it and for talking to Owen about getting out of his contract,and Bret's refusal to return in 2002 for WrestleMania X8 ... for a "hoax", there was a definite perception of real bad blood between the 2 for a long time afterwards. Whats that about WM X-8? Never heard that one before. Imagine Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle, given 30 minutes in the middle of the show... |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 7:42:52 GMT -5
factor in the very real fight between Vince and Bret afterwards, Vince's threat to sue Bret because of it and for talking to Owen about getting out of his contract,and Bret's refusal to return in 2002 for WrestleMania X8 ... for a "hoax", there was a definite perception of real bad blood between the 2 for a long time afterwards. Whats that about WM X-8? Never heard that one before. Imagine Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle, given 30 minutes in the middle of the show... I have said this each time Angle vs Perfect comes up....Hennig was an absolute shell of a man in 2002.He really was. Aside from his outing in the RR he was rough.....and drinking etc had overtaken him again by Feb. Also....no f*ckin way was the screwjob a hoax. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 8:05:48 GMT -5
Whats that about WM X-8? Never heard that one before. Imagine Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle, given 30 minutes in the middle of the show... I have said this each time Angle vs Perfect comes up....Hennig was an absolute shell of a man in 2002.He really was. Aside from his outing in the RR he was rough.....and drinking etc had overtaken him again by Feb. Also....no f*ckin way was the screwjob a hoax. Most of the people who say the Screwjob was a work haven't even bothered to educate themselves on what was going on. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 8:39:30 GMT -5
I figured it was around that time. Thankfully the only new attire that transpired from that team was the always epic inverted attire. My favorite look of his outside of 2001 and 2002. Fun Fact: Kane's inverted attire actually first appeared as an alternate attire for Kane in the 1998 WWF War Zone video game but was not officially worn by Kane until later in 1999. Man I loved the holy f*** out of that game. You had to press 12 different button combos just to do a suplex. It was like Mortal Kombat with wrasslers |
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Post by Brad on Nov 5, 2014 8:59:45 GMT -5
I love this thread. Keep them coming!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2014 9:06:56 GMT -5
I swear to god I remember that I read on caws.ws back in the day that the dirtsheets swore that Braden Walker and then R-Truth were going to be pushed to the main event scene and receive WWE title shots.
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Post by juaumguterres on Nov 5, 2014 9:14:15 GMT -5
Wow, maybe that explains why the Sting vs. Hogan match was so bad at Starrcade 97. Sting just seemed out of it the entire match. Go figure he would have the same sort of match 10 years later with Jeff Hardy. The biggest myth in wrestling though definitely has to be the rumour of Randy Savage being with Stephanie McMahon. Every wrestler that gets asked about that in shoots, always say the same thing. "I never heard of that." So I am guessing that it really isn't true. Anyway, for all you people who wanna read wrestling myths, just check out this website. It has them all!! www.angelfire.com/wrestling3/kotdm15/listsleeze.htmlI heard a short time ago that this story of the Macho Man is true, because "Stephanie McMahon" is an anagram for "The Macho Man Penis". |
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Post by Quazimoto on Nov 5, 2014 9:54:45 GMT -5
My favorite "myth" has to be the one involving Verne Gagne's offer to The Iron Sheik... If my memory is correct, the story is that before his match with Hulk Hogan, Verne Gagne offered then WWF Champion The Iron Sheik $100,000 to break Hulk Hogan's legs and bring the WWF Title to AWA. Sheik turned it down because he felt it would have been wrong to betray the company he was working for.
The Iron Sheik was a legit badass who could have easily broken Hogan's legs if he'd wanted to, so I've always marveled at the idea of what may have happened had Sheik taken Gagne's offer and not dropped the title to Hogan. Frankly, I think it may have actually destroyed WWF/WWE id Sheik had punked out their new golden boy and showed up in AWA with the WWF Championship strapped around his waist. At the time, WWF had pretty much banked everything on Hogan being THE star of the company so who knows what may have happened had he been laid up for a few months with some busted legs after being defeated by the guy who was most definitely the most hated man in wrestling at the time. WWF would have had no champion and no face of the company. WrestleMania might never have been created and we might just be watching the NWA Network today instead.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 5, 2014 10:11:12 GMT -5
My favorite "myth" has to be the one involving Verne Gagne's offer to The Iron Sheik... If my memory is correct, the story is that before his match with Hulk Hogan, Verne Gagne offered then WWF Champion The Iron Sheik $100,000 to break Hulk Hogan's legs and bring the WWF Title to AWA. Sheik turned it down because he felt it would have been wrong to betray the company he was working for. The Iron Sheik was a legit badass who could have easily broken Hogan's legs if he'd wanted to, so I've always marveled at the idea of what may have happened had Sheik taken Gagne's offer and not dropped the title to Hogan. Frankly, I think it may have actually destroyed WWF/WWE id Sheik had punked out their new golden boy and showed up in AWA with the WWF Championship strapped around his waist. At the time, WWF had pretty much banked everything on Hogan being THE star of the company so who knows what may have happened had he been laid up for a few months with some busted legs after being defeated by the guy who was most definitely the most hated man in wrestling at the time. WWF would have had no champion and no face of the company. WrestleMania might never have been created and we might just be watching the NWA Network today instead. definitely not a myth. Hogan himself confirmed it. it was because Hogan had been secretly negotiating with Vince Jr . when they made the deal,he told Verne he was leaving,with basically no notice. so Verne had it in for hulk ever since then. Hogan said Sheik came up to him and Vince after the match and told them about Gagne's offer. |
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 5, 2014 10:16:16 GMT -5
factor in the very real fight between Vince and Bret afterwards, Vince's threat to sue Bret because of it and for talking to Owen about getting out of his contract,and Bret's refusal to return in 2002 for WrestleMania X8 ... for a "hoax", there was a definite perception of real bad blood between the 2 for a long time afterwards. Whats that about WM X-8? Never heard that one before. Imagine Mr. Perfect vs. Bret Hart vs. Kurt Angle, given 30 minutes in the middle of the show... he wasn't going to wrestle,he'd already had the concussion by then. WWF put out feelers to Bret about coming back to referee the main event of Mania X-8. Vince wanted a meeting with him to discuss it,but Bret said he'd only come if they would open dialogue about Bret having use of footage and pictures of his time in the WWF and WCW. Vince agreed to the meeting,but basically told Bret not to bother coming if he wouldn't agree to be the ref first. and Bret wouldn't agree to be the ref unless Vince promised him the footage and pictures first. so it basically went nowhere fast. |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 5, 2014 11:56:39 GMT -5
I have a few.
Mr.Perfect claiming he beat up Brock Lesnar either on a plane or at a airport.
The Rock not wanting to work with Shawn Micheals.
Hogan sharing his wife with Macho Man, Lugar, and Warrior.
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Post by Grumpyoldman on Nov 5, 2014 16:30:21 GMT -5
I also heard about Verne Gagne offering a large sum of money to Bruiser Brody to take out Mr. T. I don't think that one holds much truth to it. I can scarcely recall reading about Jerry Lawler losing a testicle during a botched ring post crotching during a match with Eddie Gilbert. And how many of you knew that Andre the Giant had a daughter? www.break.com/video/ugc/andre-the-giants-daughter-962888 |
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Post by jakksking1 on Nov 5, 2014 16:38:56 GMT -5
Wrestling myths....the biggest one of them all: The infamous never seen but always recalled Moonsault from The Giant. I covered this in another thread. I had a VIP meet and greet with Big Show and I asked him and he confirmed he was able to do a moonsaults at the Wcw power plant but was told to stop for fear of injuring someone |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 5, 2014 23:48:30 GMT -5
I've always wanted to know if the animosity that Vince supposedly held toward Randy Savage was real and its origins if it was. I've always questioned the stories about Macho and Stephanie, and I doubt that Savage jumping to WCW in the twilight of his in-ring career would have had such a lasting effect.
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Post by rustyy on Nov 5, 2014 23:55:13 GMT -5
My favorite "myth" has to be the one involving Verne Gagne's offer to The Iron Sheik... If my memory is correct, the story is that before his match with Hulk Hogan, Verne Gagne offered then WWF Champion The Iron Sheik $100,000 to break Hulk Hogan's legs and bring the WWF Title to AWA. Sheik turned it down because he felt it would have been wrong to betray the company he was working for. The Iron Sheik was a legit badass who could have easily broken Hogan's legs if he'd wanted to, so I've always marveled at the idea of what may have happened had Sheik taken Gagne's offer and not dropped the title to Hogan. Frankly, I think it may have actually destroyed WWF/WWE id Sheik had punked out their new golden boy and showed up in AWA with the WWF Championship strapped around his waist. At the time, WWF had pretty much banked everything on Hogan being THE star of the company so who knows what may have happened had he been laid up for a few months with some busted legs after being defeated by the guy who was most definitely the most hated man in wrestling at the time. WWF would have had no champion and no face of the company. WrestleMania might never have been created and we might just be watching the NWA Network today instead. definitely not a myth. Hogan himself confirmed it. it was because Hogan had been secretly negotiating with Vince Jr . when they made the deal,he told Verne he was leaving,with basically no notice. so Verne had it in for hulk ever since then. Hogan said Sheik came up to him and Vince after the match and told them about Gagne's offer. Would have been insane if that had happened. Would have changed everything really, even if WWE had been able to stay afloat after. We probably wouldn't have televised wrestling anymore, imo. |
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Post by Emerald Enthusiast on Nov 6, 2014 0:31:06 GMT -5
definitely not a myth. Hogan himself confirmed it. it was because Hogan had been secretly negotiating with Vince Jr . when they made the deal,he told Verne he was leaving,with basically no notice. so Verne had it in for hulk ever since then. Hogan said Sheik came up to him and Vince after the match and told them about Gagne's offer. Would have been insane if that had happened. Would have changed everything really, even if WWE had been able to stay afloat after. We probably wouldn't have televised wrestling anymore, imo. It's ironic to think that we owe the Family Entertainment Era, and perhaps modern American wrestling in his entirety, to the Iron Shiek's sense of morality. |
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Post by rustyy on Nov 6, 2014 0:40:18 GMT -5
Would have been insane if that had happened. Would have changed everything really, even if WWE had been able to stay afloat after. We probably wouldn't have televised wrestling anymore, imo. It's ironic to think that we owe the Family Entertainment Era, and perhaps modern American wrestling in his entirety, to the Iron Shiek's sense of morality. Its insane to think about, I mean any other guy would have broken Hulks legs for that kind of money. Really says something about Shieky. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 7:09:23 GMT -5
I have a few. Mr.Perfect claiming he beat up Brock Lesnar either on a plane or at a airport. The Rock not wanting to work with Shawn Micheals. Hogan sharing his wife with Macho Man, Lugar, and Warrior. The first is from the plane ride from hell, Hennig and Lesnar fought on the plane which is why Hennig got fired. Rock reportedly didn't want to work with Shawn for two reasons, one is for purposely trying to sabotage him during the start if his career, second was for screwing Bret. Although they have since patched things up. Warrior said that Hogan used to hand his wife out to the boys. I'm not sure if Macho or Luger are among that or not, and Warrior said that he refused. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 7:35:10 GMT -5
I've always wanted to know if the animosity that Vince supposedly held toward Randy Savage was real and its origins if it was. I've always questioned the stories about Macho and Stephanie, and I doubt that Savage jumping to WCW in the twilight of his in-ring career would have had such a lasting effect. The animosity Vince had with Savage was obviously VERY real indeed. There are several wrestlers/managers on shoots that shake their head and go "uh uh I aint touching that" on shoots. 1) He didn't hate him for leaving......he went to WCW with Vince's blessing and received an on air farewell from Vince. I wish to GOD people would put that one to bed. 2) Bischoff was forgiven and taken in the panic stricken year of 2002 when they tried EVERYTHING to reverse the ratings damage started with the Invasion botch.....the fact folks wouldn't even suggest contact with Savage tells the story folks. 3) Hogan blackballed Savage.....again HIGHLY unlikely. There was large parts of the last decade that Hogan wasn't present and on bad terms with Vince......yet still no Macho......I just don't see it. 4) But Joker they made a Macho DVD and figures everything must have been ok!!!!.....again.....nothing to get excited about. Vince had to appease Mattel with the Savage signing to start out the gate with Stuff Jakks couldn't do....(vince also hated jakks)simply good business savvy. The DVD is actually the ultimate slap in the face to Savage....they made a DVD of him and didn't ask him to participate. I don't believe the Steph thing either......sure there are plenty of stories about her "craving the love gravy" but I don't see it with Savage. |
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