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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Nov 6, 2014 7:41:28 GMT -5
Rock reportedly didn't want to work with Shawn for two reasons, one is for purposely trying to sabotage him during the start if his career Not just the start. Michaels tried to get the WrestleMania XV main event changed to Austin vs Mankind.
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Post by Mike Giggs' Munchies on Nov 6, 2014 8:15:52 GMT -5
I've always wanted to know if the animosity that Vince supposedly held toward Randy Savage was real and its origins if it was. I've always questioned the stories about Macho and Stephanie, and I doubt that Savage jumping to WCW in the twilight of his in-ring career would have had such a lasting effect. The animosity Vince had with Savage was obviously VERY real indeed. There are several wrestlers/managers on shoots that shake their head and go "uh uh I aint touching that" on shoots. 1) He didn't hate him for leaving......he went to WCW with Vince's blessing and received an on air farewell from Vince. I wish to GOD people would put that one to bed. 2) Bischoff was forgiven and taken in the panic stricken year of 2002 when they tried EVERYTHING to reverse the ratings damage started with the Invasion botch.....the fact folks wouldn't even suggest contact with Savage tells the story folks. 3) Hogan blackballed Savage.....again HIGHLY unlikely. There was large parts of the last decade that Hogan wasn't present and on bad terms with Vince......yet still no Macho......I just don't see it. 4) But Joker they made a Macho DVD and figures everything must have been ok!!!!.....again.....nothing to get excited about. Vince had to appease Mattel with the Savage signing to start out the gate with Stuff Jakks couldn't do....(vince also hated jakks)simply good business savvy. The DVD is actually the ultimate slap in the face to Savage....they made a DVD of him and didn't ask him to participate. I don't believe the Steph thing either......sure there are plenty of stories about her "craving the love gravy" but I don't see it with Savage. Why did Vince hate Jakks?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:24:28 GMT -5
Lol @ Hogan sharing Linda with the locker room.
"Yo Linda, go put Knobbs over."
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:38:50 GMT -5
Lol @ Hogan sharing Linda with the locker room. "Yo Linda, go put Knobbs over." I really don't buy that either. Yeah its a different lifestyle and Im sure there was a few wild parties....but the Locker Room? nah.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:40:13 GMT -5
definitely not a myth. Hogan himself confirmed it. it was because Hogan had been secretly negotiating with Vince Jr . when they made the deal,he told Verne he was leaving,with basically no notice. so Verne had it in for hulk ever since then. Hogan said Sheik came up to him and Vince after the match and told them about Gagne's offer. Would have been insane if that had happened. Would have changed everything really, even if WWE had been able to stay afloat after. We probably wouldn't have televised wrestling anymore, imo. Its funny in a existential way as to how much Sheik did for the business by not breaking Hogan's legs. Yet he will never get the credit he wholeheartedly deserves.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:41:15 GMT -5
The animosity Vince had with Savage was obviously VERY real indeed. There are several wrestlers/managers on shoots that shake their head and go "uh uh I aint touching that" on shoots. 1) He didn't hate him for leaving......he went to WCW with Vince's blessing and received an on air farewell from Vince. I wish to GOD people would put that one to bed. 2) Bischoff was forgiven and taken in the panic stricken year of 2002 when they tried EVERYTHING to reverse the ratings damage started with the Invasion botch.....the fact folks wouldn't even suggest contact with Savage tells the story folks. 3) Hogan blackballed Savage.....again HIGHLY unlikely. There was large parts of the last decade that Hogan wasn't present and on bad terms with Vince......yet still no Macho......I just don't see it. 4) But Joker they made a Macho DVD and figures everything must have been ok!!!!.....again.....nothing to get excited about. Vince had to appease Mattel with the Savage signing to start out the gate with Stuff Jakks couldn't do....(vince also hated jakks)simply good business savvy. The DVD is actually the ultimate slap in the face to Savage....they made a DVD of him and didn't ask him to participate. I don't believe the Steph thing either......sure there are plenty of stories about her "craving the love gravy" but I don't see it with Savage. Why did Vince hate Jakks? Their business relationship went extremely sour towards the end man....I believe there were lawsuits and all sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:48:13 GMT -5
Rock reportedly didn't want to work with Shawn for two reasons, one is for purposely trying to sabotage him during the start if his career Not just the start. Michaels tried to get the WrestleMania XV main event changed to Austin vs Mankind. Yeah I forgot about that. Michaels was always a dick to The Rock. I'm can't say I'm surprised that when Shawn got the title in 96, he tried to only do programs with his friends. No one else really wanted to put up with him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:52:45 GMT -5
Rock reportedly didn't want to work with Shawn for two reasons, one is for purposely trying to sabotage him during the start if his career Not just the start. Michaels tried to get the WrestleMania XV main event changed to Austin vs Mankind. Indeed. Also if HHH hadn't been injured in fall of 1998 you can bet your bottom dollar HBK would have been pushing like crazy for HHH to be selected as the next corporate champ.....things would have really heated up backstage then. HHH was in the running until his injury so you can bet there would have been serious knifing afoot here.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:56:34 GMT -5
Lol @ Hogan sharing Linda with the locker room. "Yo Linda, go put Knobbs over." I really don't buy that either. Yeah its a different lifestyle and Im sure there was a few wild parties....but the Locker Room? nah. I think Warrior said that he and his friends would swing with their wives. Which sounds pretty realistic since Hogan was boinking his friends wife in that tape that "leaked" (so I've heard, I swear to god that anyone who watched that must be mightily farked up, I couldn't even bring myself to watch a Chyna tape, and she's a woman... kinda).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 8:59:57 GMT -5
I really don't buy that either. Yeah its a different lifestyle and Im sure there was a few wild parties....but the Locker Room? nah. I think Warrior said that he and his friends would swing with their wives. Which sounds pretty realistic since Hogan was boinking his friends wife in that tape that "leaked" (so I've heard, I swear to god that anyone who watched that must be mightily farked up, I couldn't even bring myself to watch a Chyna tape, and she's a woman... kinda). That's what I meant about the different lifestyle AF....swinger parties etc. I could totally see that happening but passing her around the locker room is a different thing entirely really in its implication.
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Post by greenjack1992 on Nov 6, 2014 9:01:04 GMT -5
Sting was a drug addict? Wow. Everything I know is wrong. I'm with you man. I had absolutely no idea.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Nov 6, 2014 13:45:54 GMT -5
Did everyone really bang Sunny? Is Vince gay for HBK? Why was Hogan/Flair really squashed for WM8? Why was Lex at WM10 really squashed? And one I hate to hear people say......Montreal Screwjob was all a work.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 13:50:31 GMT -5
Did everyone really bang Sunny? Is Vince gay for HBK? Why was Hogan/Flair really squashed for WM8? Why was Lex at WM10 really squashed? And one I hate to hear people say......Montreal Screwjob was all a work. Pretty much. I don't know if it ever got as far as them acting on it, but there's no doubt in my mind that Vince had the hots for Shawn. It's been reported that it was either because they weren't drawing on house shows, or because their matches were so bad that Vince didn't want it to main event Wrestlemania. Lex wasn't squashed, he nearly won. Nah.
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Post by MrPerfect25 on Nov 6, 2014 13:55:27 GMT -5
Did everyone really bang Sunny? Is Vince gay for HBK? Why was Hogan/Flair really squashed for WM8? Why was Lex at WM10 really squashed? And one I hate to hear people say......Montreal Screwjob was all a work. Pretty much. I don't know if it ever got as far as them acting on it, but there's no doubt in my mind that Vince had the hots for Shawn. It's been reported that it was either because they weren't drawing on house shows, or because their matches were so bad that Vince didn't want it to main event Wrestlemania. Lex wasn't squashed, he nearly won. Nah. I know all of that but none of it has been ever proved. Hence why they're myths I guess. And what I meant was the plan for Luger to win the strap was squashed because he apparently let the word out at a bar the night before. I should have been more specific but I was just generalizing everything because most of it has already been discussed in the last 4 pages.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 14:16:03 GMT -5
Pretty much. I don't know if it ever got as far as them acting on it, but there's no doubt in my mind that Vince had the hots for Shawn. It's been reported that it was either because they weren't drawing on house shows, or because their matches were so bad that Vince didn't want it to main event Wrestlemania. Lex wasn't squashed, he nearly won. Nah. I know all of that but none of it has been ever proved. Hence why they're myths I guess. And what I meant was the plan for Luger to win the strap was squashed because he apparently let the word out at a bar the night before. I should have been more specific but I was just generalizing everything because most of it has already been discussed in the last 4 pages. Ah ok. Regarding Lex, Lex himself said that is false. And in his book, Bret said Vince had decided to go with Bret just after the Rumble.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 14:42:39 GMT -5
Yeah..I'm 90% sure Vince is at least bisexual.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 16:34:38 GMT -5
I would've loved to bang Sunny in 97-98.
I watched clips from the Hogan sex tape. It's right up there with Chyna as She-Hulk in terms of adult content quality.
Is it true Sid crapped his shorts at WM 13 against Taker?
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Post by OmegaGaijin on Nov 6, 2014 18:33:50 GMT -5
I would've loved to bang Sunny in 97-98. I watched clips from the Hogan sex tape. It's right up there with Chyna as She-Hulk in terms of adult content quality. Is it true Sid crapped his shorts at WM 13 against Taker?It's either that or a house show round about that time. Touching on the Rock, i was told that the animosity towards HBK stemmed from a backstage incident where HBK humiliated Rocky Johnson infront of him. I don't care who you are, some guy being a jerk to your dad will make you pretty pissed.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2014 18:47:06 GMT -5
I always heard the HBK-Rock heat started backstage in 1996 when Rocky first debuted and introduced himself to HBK backstage.
I guess HBK was a total d*ck and treated him like garbage.
HBK/HHH were also DETERMINED to get the IC title off Rocky in 1997. They wanted him to drop the belt to Bret Hart on Raw but Bret refused because it didn't make any sense.
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Post by mikey1974 on Nov 6, 2014 20:29:40 GMT -5
I always heard the HBK-Rock heat started backstage in 1996 when Rocky first debuted and introduced himself to HBK backstage. I guess HBK was a total d*ck and treated him like garbage. HBK/HHH were also DETERMINED to get the IC title off Rocky in 1997. They wanted him to drop the belt to Bret Hart on Raw but Bret refused because it didn't make any sense. I think the animosity on the Cliq's part,at least in my opinion,was they knew Rocky was going to be something in the business,therefore they considered him a threat. it was around the time Rocky came in that HHH was getting his first semi-big singles push,as IC Champion, then Rocky sought advice and was a semi-frequent travel companion of Bret Hart in late 96 - early 97. then to top it off,on the same Thursday Raw where HBK forfeits the World title, they book HHH to lose the IC Belt to Rocky. considering the type of people Trips and especially HBK were during this time, it's no surprise they tried to keep the Rock down early in his career,sensing he would be a big thing in the future.
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