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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 19:52:02 GMT -5
Regardless of the outcome of this new figure, this thread has reminded me how badass his attires truly were
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Post by punksnotdead on Nov 13, 2014 20:03:29 GMT -5
It's not that we can't answer the question, it's that Macho Man had so many other great attires at various points of his career that were clearly better. Pre NWO WCW era Macho Man is a horrible time frame, and that's really my issue with it. There are still so many amazing WWF attires Mattel hasn't done yet and his 99 look was a huge departure from his previous looks, so it would be cool to have something drastically different than what we've had so far. I think most people just don't want to see the opportunity squandered, as I know that's my issue with it. It's no different than Bill going, "who would buy Gobbledy Gooker?" Just to find out the majority doesn't want him. "Who would buy 1995 Macho Man?" Not this guy. The fact that Mattel has asked a question with very specific guidelines suggests that the decision is made. Wouldn't u rather have input given the information we have? Rather then just wasting what little influence u might have otherwise had... If the question holds true, those that have answered it using the information provided will have some impact on the outcome of the figure, those that said I want this WWE/F time period will likely be simply disregarded... If for no other reason then simply not answering the question. If I ask u what is your faviote fruit - so I can put it in the fruit salad, and u tell me you like cheese pizza, ur probably not going to get any input as to the fruit I buy..: that's a really crap example, but u get my point. Yeah, but if you're making me a fruit salad and I think fruit sucks I'm going to tell you. I get what you're saying, but if the decision has been made without asking us first, then don't expect us to buy it if we don't like it, is all I'm saying. I think it's great Mattel wants to ask us for input, but we're a free focus group for them. I think most companies would kill for an active community like this website to help improve their product, or gauge interest for new products. I don't feel sorry for Mattel if they make a decision without gauging our interest and then nobody likes it. That brings us right back to the Legends line. NOBODY wanted to see Terry Funk in that attire, nobody wanted boots on Snuka, why was Sgt Slaughter not in green and black? That's what I'm getting at. We're the customer, it's not the other way around. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:16:00 GMT -5
The fact that Mattel has asked a question with very specific guidelines suggests that the decision is made. Wouldn't u rather have input given the information we have? Rather then just wasting what little influence u might have otherwise had... If the question holds true, those that have answered it using the information provided will have some impact on the outcome of the figure, those that said I want this WWE/F time period will likely be simply disregarded... If for no other reason then simply not answering the question. If I ask u what is your faviote fruit - so I can put it in the fruit salad, and u tell me you like cheese pizza, ur probably not going to get any input as to the fruit I buy..: that's a really crap example, but u get my point. Yeah, but if you're making me a fruit salad and I think fruit sucks I'm going to tell you. I get what you're saying, but if the decision has been made without asking us first, then don't expect us to buy it if we don't like it, is all I'm saying. I think it's great Mattel wants to ask us for input, but we're a free focus group for them. I think most companies would kill for an active community like this website to help improve their product, or gauge interest for new products. I don't feel sorry for Mattel if they make a decision without gauging our interest and then nobody likes it. That brings us right back to the Legends line. NOBODY wanted to see Terry Funk in that attire, nobody wanted boots on Snuka, why was Sgt Slaughter not in green and black? That's what I'm getting at. We're the customer, it's not the other way around. I think it's awesome mdt asks us either way but you hit the nail on the head End thread |
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Post by Nivro™ on Nov 13, 2014 20:18:40 GMT -5
The fact that Mattel has asked a question with very specific guidelines suggests that the decision is made. Wouldn't u rather have input given the information we have? Rather then just wasting what little influence u might have otherwise had... If the question holds true, those that have answered it using the information provided will have some impact on the outcome of the figure, those that said I want this WWE/F time period will likely be simply disregarded... If for no other reason then simply not answering the question. If I ask u what is your faviote fruit - so I can put it in the fruit salad, and u tell me you like cheese pizza, ur probably not going to get any input as to the fruit I buy..: that's a really crap example, but u get my point. Yeah, but if you're making me a fruit salad and I think fruit sucks I'm going to tell you. I get what you're saying, but if the decision has been made without asking us first, then don't expect us to buy it if we don't like it, is all I'm saying. I think it's great Mattel wants to ask us for input, but we're a free focus group for them. I think most companies would kill for an active community like this website to help improve their product, or gauge interest for new products. I don't feel sorry for Mattel if they make a decision without gauging our interest and then nobody likes it. That brings us right back to the Legends line. NOBODY wanted to see Terry Funk in that attire, nobody wanted boots on Snuka, why was Sgt Slaughter not in green and black? That's what I'm getting at. We're the customer, it's not the other way around. I did. Its one of my favorite figures actually....but I agree with what you're saying.  |
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Post by jayrod2009 on Nov 13, 2014 20:20:16 GMT -5
The fact that Mattel has asked a question with very specific guidelines suggests that the decision is made. Wouldn't u rather have input given the information we have? Rather then just wasting what little influence u might have otherwise had... If the question holds true, those that have answered it using the information provided will have some impact on the outcome of the figure, those that said I want this WWE/F time period will likely be simply disregarded... If for no other reason then simply not answering the question. If I ask u what is your faviote fruit - so I can put it in the fruit salad, and u tell me you like cheese pizza, ur probably not going to get any input as to the fruit I buy..: that's a really crap example, but u get my point. Yeah, but if you're making me a fruit salad and I think fruit sucks I'm going to tell you. I get what you're saying, but if the decision has been made without asking us first, then don't expect us to buy it if we don't like it, is all I'm saying. I think it's great Mattel wants to ask us for input, but we're a free focus group for them. I think most companies would kill for an active community like this website to help improve their product, or gauge interest for new products. I don't feel sorry for Mattel if they make a decision without gauging our interest and then nobody likes it. That brings us right back to the Legends line. NOBODY wanted to see Terry Funk in that attire, nobody wanted boots on Snuka, why was Sgt Slaughter not in green and black? That's what I'm getting at. We're the customer, it's not the other way around. This guy gets it * clap clap clap clap clap * This guy gets it * clap clap clap clap clap * We want ECW Funk and barefoot Snuka * clap clap clap.... Ah you get it... |
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Post by East Coast on Nov 13, 2014 20:20:28 GMT -5
i agree with both of u.
on one hand....reading comprehension on this forum is poor. People tend to see what they want. So instead of seeing "Hey what WCW 1995-96 Macho Man attire would you like?". All they see is "I'm making a flashback Macho Man, what do u want?" Thats why more than half of the replies were asking for WWF versions of Macho.
and then there's the fact that there is no demand for this era of Macho Man. So you can either ignore this post...or reply, requesting a Savage attire that u actually want.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:27:47 GMT -5
Well, I posted a lot of wwf attires. I also mentioned which wcw attire I would dig most. But , while we had bills attention, I wanted to point out attires that would rock in the future.... Which is what I think others were doing as well. I doubt anyone missed the question, there's just so many classic wwf attires that need to come out
I would definetly buy the pink/black wcw outfit but the Halloween havoc / revenge outfit would be so good.
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Post by Flair Forever on Nov 13, 2014 20:34:21 GMT -5
i agree with both of u. on one hand....reading comprehension on this forum is poor. People tend to see what they want. So instead of seeing "Hey what WCW 1995-96 Macho Man attire would you like?". All they see is "I'm making a flashback Macho Man, what do u want?" Thats why more than half of the replies were asking for WWF versions of Macho. and then there's the fact that there is no demand for this era of Macho Man. So you can either ignore this post...or reply, requesting a Savage attire that u actually want. Thanks, I was a little annoyed about the reading comprehension piece.... I thought Bill was pretty clear with his request. And, for the record - I would really like a 95-96 WCW Macho Man! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 20:39:41 GMT -5
Bills a grown man, most of us are grown men. He asked an open question on a forum and got multiple answers. Some weren't the expected answer, who really cares?
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Post by Vamp55 on Nov 13, 2014 21:16:30 GMT -5
Bills a grown man, most of us are grown men. He asked an open question on a forum and got multiple answers. Some weren't the expected answer, who really cares? I don't see how it's an open ended question. An opened question would be "hey we are making a new flashback macho, what attires do u like or want?".. The question was specific in delivery. That's all I'm saying. I agree the question opens up a greater discussion, and maybe Mattel is listening, but supplying examples of Machos from the Wwf or Nwo doesn't actually answer the question that was asked of you... |
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Post by The Assassin on Nov 13, 2014 21:17:56 GMT -5
The way I look at it is, yes it was clear that Bill was asking for input specifically on pre-NWO WCW Savage attires - but I completely understand why people (myself included) were also expressing their desires/preferences for other era attires.
While us collectors certainly appreciate opportunities for real input (i.e. requested input that will actually affect the line), the simple fact is it's still pretty rare for us to be asked stuff like this. I know Bill and the team work hard, so that's not a criticism, and I'm a big believer in the saying "too many cooks spoil the broth" too, but as a collector I'm certainly still going to take any chance I get to express my ideas to Mattel. As long as the comments are fairly close to the subject at hand, and as long as Bill is still getting plenty of answers to his actual question, I don't really see a problem with people expanding the discussion a little.
I mean, to the people criticizing the off-topic'ers, are you expecting Mattel to ask our input on every Savage they make? No, of course they won't, nor would anyone expect them to. I'm sure Bill has got plenty of pre-NWO WCW attire ideas from this thread, and hopefully a few ideas for other, future Savage figures too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:23:29 GMT -5
Some of You guys are too sensitive..... He asked what's your fav. Wcw attire?
Some guys basically said, none, these wwf attires are what I'm waiting for....
That's it, what's the big deal... I seriously doubt bills sitting in his office fuming and being annoyed so I don't get why you guys are so rattled
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Post by Hulk Who? on Nov 13, 2014 21:36:58 GMT -5
I think there are a lot of cool pre-nWo WCW outfits that haven't been posted yet, probably because they aren't coming up in a quick google search. I'm looking through some 95 Nitro vids and he's got tons of cool outfits I don't see any images of on an image search. I'm trying to find some good quality vids to screen cap from. Then again maybe nobody wants random Nitro outfits.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2014 21:47:40 GMT -5
I think there are a lot of cool pre-nWo WCW outfits that haven't been posted yet, probably because they aren't coming up in a quick google search. I'm looking through some 95 Nitro vids and he's got tons of cool outfits I don't see any images of on an image search. I'm trying to find some good quality vids to screen cap from. Then again maybe nobody wants random Nitro outfits. You tubed "macho man wcw 1995" and it brought up some sick outfits I'm kinda stoked to get a wcw savage because I'm hoping it has frilled tights.... A new mold would look good in a savage collection... Hopefully it has a sleeveless shirt, cowboy hat and shades |
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Post by The Assassin on Nov 13, 2014 21:56:53 GMT -5
I think there are a lot of cool pre-nWo WCW outfits that haven't been posted yet, probably because they aren't coming up in a quick google search. I'm looking through some 95 Nitro vids and he's got tons of cool outfits I don't see any images of on an image search. You're probably right, but then Savage has gotta be up there as a wrestler with one of the highest number of different costumes worn. It's hard to remember them all, let alone single out specific ones. I mean it's easy to say let's make figures of all the main eras of Savage's career, e.g. pre-WWF, WWF 80s, WWF 90s, WWF Commentator, WCW with hat/jacket, WCW with shirt/bandanna, NWO, Wolfpac, Team Madness... etc... but pinning down specific attires worn at specific events for all those is a tough job for anyone, fan or professional. I think Mattel has done a pretty good job so far though and I hope they will continue to fill in more gaps, as with this pre-NWO WCW version. |
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Post by Hulk Who? on Nov 13, 2014 22:32:00 GMT -5
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Post by East Coast on Nov 13, 2014 22:33:14 GMT -5
id prefer a WCW macho to be like towards the bottom of the Flashback wishlist. Something they could release towards the tail-end of the new 5 year contract they just signed.
but in the grand scheme of things, i will buy every elite Macho Man. And all the elite Machos have been pretty good. So i expect to like this one too.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Nov 14, 2014 0:54:53 GMT -5
I think there are a lot of cool pre-nWo WCW outfits that haven't been posted yet, probably because they aren't coming up in a quick google search. I'm looking through some 95 Nitro vids and he's got tons of cool outfits I don't see any images of on an image search. I'm trying to find some good quality vids to screen cap from. Then again maybe nobody wants random Nitro outfits. You tubed "macho man wcw 1995" and it brought up some sick outfits I'm kinda stoked to get a wcw savage because I'm hoping it has frilled tights.... A new mold would look good in a savage collection... Hopefully it has a sleeveless shirt, cowboy hat and shades I guess I was totally mistaken that his WCW pre-nWo outfits were a low point, I just edited my last post with 3 cool ones I found in 95/96 Nitros. MDT said no jacket, but he rarely wore those shirts in pre-nWo WCW, he mostly wore the jacket, hat and long tights, I had trouble finding ones with just a shirt besides Bash 96 and some very plain neon green and black ones. |
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Post by qdogg on Nov 14, 2014 6:49:06 GMT -5
I dont mind getting a early WCW Macho Man. He was with WCW for quite a while and had a great run there. Always a solid performer, even into old age unlike alot of guys there. We all know we are gonna get a Mania 3 Savage eventually and it wouldnt fit into a elite budget anyway if you wanted it done right. Mania 3 Savage would have to be DM.
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Nov 14, 2014 7:53:07 GMT -5
Same here... I love that Terry Funk. I think it's great that Bill asked us. Yeah, but if you're making me a fruit salad and I think fruit sucks I'm going to tell you. I get what you're saying, but if the decision has been made without asking us first, then don't expect us to buy it if we don't like it, is all I'm saying. I think it's great Mattel wants to ask us for input, but we're a free focus group for them. I think most companies would kill for an active community like this website to help improve their product, or gauge interest for new products. I don't feel sorry for Mattel if they make a decision without gauging our interest and then nobody likes it. That brings us right back to the Legends line. NOBODY wanted to see Terry Funk in that attire, nobody wanted boots on Snuka, why was Sgt Slaughter not in green and black? That's what I'm getting at. We're the customer, it's not the other way around. I did. Its one of my favorite figures actually....but I agree with what you're saying. |
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