Ohtimate Wahriah
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Post by Ohtimate Wahriah on Nov 28, 2014 16:20:52 GMT -5
Well, it would be interesting to be AJ Lee on Monday haha...that's gotta be rough. Im honestly suprised Punk opened the can of worms, I figured at this point he was waiting for his wife to leave before he went there.
Great interview though, I like CM Punk, at the end of the day I'll miss his TV character but I wish him well. Lifes too short to be miserable for that long
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 28, 2014 16:27:43 GMT -5
I already gave most of my opinion earlier in this thread. What a coincidence that CM Punk trashes Ryback as soon as Ryback starts to get a push...trying to kill his momentum with the internet fans??? Every wrestlers goal is to main event mania... why is punk more entitled than others? If Ryback was too rough maybe Punk should of opted for a desk job instead. ..I'd like to see Punk vs vader, dr.death, stiener brothers or any other of the hard hitting tough guys of the past. Imagine the bitching he would of done working in early ecw lol. At least Shawn Michaels helped his "kliq" with his moaning and politics...I'd compare punk to Him, except punk was only out for himself. 1. I highly doubt that Punk mentioned Ryback because he started to get pushed again. 2. Every wrestler's goal is to main event Mania. Right. But, as pointed out earlier in this thread, a guy like Christian said he was honored and pleased to just be the World Champion. Punk never settled and wanted nothing more than to main event a Mania. It was his holy grail. 3. There's a difference between unsafe and rough. Vader, Dr. Death and a guy like Samoa Joe, who Punk faced, are rough. Ryback is unsafe. 4. I wouldn't compare Punk to HBK because Punk never had actual temper tantrums and hissy fits during matches. |
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Post by Glorydaysofwrestling on Nov 28, 2014 16:42:05 GMT -5
I think maybe you should go back and watch some of those guys' matches...I'm not a huge Ryback fan...but he is no where near as solid, hard hitting, or dropping guys on their heads like others before him..that kind of stuff isn't tolerated in today's WWE. I already gave most of my opinion earlier in this thread. What a coincidence that CM Punk trashes Ryback as soon as Ryback starts to get a push...trying to kill his momentum with the internet fans??? Every wrestlers goal is to main event mania... why is punk more entitled than others? If Ryback was too rough maybe Punk should of opted for a desk job instead. ..I'd like to see Punk vs vader, dr.death, stiener brothers or any other of the hard hitting tough guys of the past. Imagine the bitching he would of done working in early ecw lol. At least Shawn Michaels helped his "kliq" with his moaning and politics...I'd compare punk to Him, except punk was only out for himself. 1. I highly doubt that Punk mentioned Ryback because he started to get pushed again. 2. Every wrestler's goal is to main event Mania. Right. But, as pointed out earlier in this thread, a guy like Christian said he was honored and pleased to just be the World Champion. Punk never settled and wanted nothing more than to main event a Mania. It was his holy grail. 3. There's a difference between unsafe and rough. Vader, Dr. Death and a guy like Samoa Joe, who Punk faced, are rough. Ryback is unsafe. 4. I wouldn't compare Punk to HBK because Punk never had actual temper tantrums and hissy fits during matches. |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 16:42:06 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast gave me more insight on how WWE is a not very good workplace. Yes, you can get injuries in the ring, but not being medically treated right by a WWE doctor is scary. Hell, CM Punk could have died and Triple H and Mcmahon couldn't give a damn. T The whole premise of WWE is obviously making money and turning a profit; but not giving a crap about the well being of their performers is sick. Maybe they're doing a better job after Punk left with Danial Bryan and Roman Reigns, but it doesn't change what they did with Punk to begin with. He was right to leave his health was in jeopardy. I don't know if I can even watch WWE the same again, or if I'll ever watch it at all. It's just too  ed up. I must have missed the part where he said that? The doctor just misdiagnosed him. It happens every day. I don't think Vince or Triple H ever knew Punk had a life threatening condition. They certainly did not know he had MRSA. And if they did, I'm sure they would have had it treated immediately. It's foolish to act like WWE was trying to kill one of their top talents for poops n' giggles. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2014 16:48:36 GMT -5
What I take away from it... was he calling a hamburger a beef sandwich? Or does the arena he was at sell a beef sandwich?
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 28, 2014 16:48:48 GMT -5
I think maybe you should go back and watch some of those guys' matches...I'm not a huge Ryback fan...but he is no where near as solid, hard hitting, or dropping guys on their heads like others before him..that kind of stuff isn't tolerated in today's WWE. 1. I highly doubt that Punk mentioned Ryback because he started to get pushed again. 2. Every wrestler's goal is to main event Mania. Right. But, as pointed out earlier in this thread, a guy like Christian said he was honored and pleased to just be the World Champion. Punk never settled and wanted nothing more than to main event a Mania. It was his holy grail. 3. There's a difference between unsafe and rough. Vader, Dr. Death and a guy like Samoa Joe, who Punk faced, are rough. Ryback is unsafe. 4. I wouldn't compare Punk to HBK because Punk never had actual temper tantrums and hissy fits during matches. I've seen more than my fair share of matches from the guys you've mentioned. Again, Vader could drop someone or hit someone and do it right. Ryback has been considered by many to be an unsafe worker. |
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Post by kazoosandstreamers on Nov 28, 2014 16:49:20 GMT -5
WWE should look into getting some new doctors...that's a pretty risky thing to misdiagnose.
That being said, very informative podcast. I had no problem with Punk leaving before and now I really don't. Sounds like hell.
At least he's happy.
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Post by Rob on Nov 28, 2014 16:53:53 GMT -5
I remember that Raw where Ryback almost killed Daniel Bryan by trying to powerbomb him through a table outside the ring and completely missing the table and dropping him on his neck and head on the floor. So Ryback does have a history of being extremely sloppy in the ring. Probably a good reason he got buried and became a jobber.
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Post by J12 on Nov 28, 2014 17:19:28 GMT -5
Incredible. That re-established a lot of the respect I had for Punk that may have been shaky over the course of the last year. He felt fully justified, and I believe he had every right to feel that way. I'm sure WWE's side of the story is very different, and I'm sure the actual truth falls somewhere in the middle. I'm just glad we finally got to hear him spill his guts. At the end of the day, I was a huge CM Punk fan, and I'll continue to be a huge CM Punk fan. It's sad that the chips fell the way they did and that it's unlikely we'll ever see him again. It's sad that a variety of factors led to him losing all passion and interest in the thing he, at one time, loved the most.
I could've listened to them talk for hours. Can't wait for next week.
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Post by Jaz on Nov 28, 2014 17:34:23 GMT -5
I remember that Raw where Ryback almost killed Daniel Bryan by trying to powerbomb him through a table outside the ring and completely missing the table and dropping him on his neck and head on the floor. So Ryback does have a history of being extremely sloppy in the ring. Probably a good reason he got buried and became a jobber. 2:09 This is what immediately came to my mind when Punk was talking about Ryback being reckless. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Nov 28, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -5
The IWC needs to come to terms that Cena/Rock was always the planned main event for WM29, going as far back as WM27 when Rock first returned. The whole point of Cena loosing the year before to Rock was to set up the rematch. That was the storyline. Punk didn't fit in and in a way was a long transitional champ until Rock returned in January. Fighting Taker was the logical choice for WM29. Well, they wanted WM30 to be Batista vs Orton, and that would have sucked, and the fans had to complain endlessly to get the guy they wanted in the main event at WM30. And who wanted Cena and Rock again at WM29? Felt like the fans didn't. Seem like nobody did except the WWE brass. Punk is a grump who grumbles too much, and he did caught in the wrong place/wrong time with the WM29 card, but the WWE could have used him better. He has a lot of complains, and some/most of them are valid. I remember it more 50/50 for Cena/Rock at WM29. I was fine with it. There were other members of this site, and the mass fans, who were in favor of it. I think Punk's biggest fault is that he views himself as the best thing to ever happen to pro wrestling. In reality, he isn't on the level of Hogan, Hart, Austin, Rock, or Cena. He was a top guy, but a supporting player to THE man. Nothing wrong with that. Punk just can't come to terms with it. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 28, 2014 18:47:34 GMT -5
The Luke Gallows/Ryback stuff had me laughing.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 28, 2014 19:12:23 GMT -5
How many years in a row did he say he stole the show at WrestleMania? Because apart from Mania 29, I don't recall that he ever did -- and really, he only did it then because the other two top matches sucked a bit more than his. At 27 and 28, he couldn't touch the Undertaker vs HHH matches. At 25 and 26, his matches were nowhere near Undertaker vs Michaels. At 24, Money in the Bank had nothing on Michaels vs Flair and Undertaker vs Edge. Essentially, if his complaint about wanting to work with guys better than him at Mania and improve his stock was how he really felt, then he really shouldn't have been upset about fighting Undertaker... The guy who had outperformed him at every single WrestleMania since Punk's first one. Maybe it's just me but I prefer Punk/Orton at 27 to HHH/Taker. Probably just me. But yea, 29 was the only one that he was in the best match for sure. |
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Post by Jaz on Nov 28, 2014 19:13:44 GMT -5
The Luke Gallows/Ryback stuff had me laughing. We're the beater uppers! |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 19:14:52 GMT -5
You know I was just thinking...
CM Punk can mock WWE's medical staff, but I bet Khali sure is grateful they found his brain tumor in time. And he can ridicule the concussion texts, but Christian, Corey Graves, & Dolph Ziggler are proof that if time is needed, they will give talent time off to properly heel from concussions.
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Post by The Yes Man on Nov 28, 2014 19:17:11 GMT -5
You know I was just thinking... CM Punk can mock WWE's medical staff, but I bet Khali sure is grateful they found his brain tumor in time. And he can ridicule the concussion texts, but Christian, Corey Graves, & Dolph Ziggler are proof that if time is needed, they will give talent time off to properly heel from concussions. I'm sure he was a bit more upset about the staph infection that could have killed him. He has every right to mock the medical staff after that. |
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 28, 2014 19:22:50 GMT -5
Listening to the podcast gave me more insight on how WWE is a not very good workplace. Yes, you can get injuries in the ring, but not being medically treated right by a WWE doctor is scary. Hell, CM Punk could have died and Triple H and Mcmahon couldn't give a damn. T The whole premise of WWE is obviously making money and turning a profit; but not giving a crap about the well being of their performers is sick. Maybe they're doing a better job after Punk left with Danial Bryan and Roman Reigns, but it doesn't change what they did with Punk to begin with. He was right to leave his health was in jeopardy. I don't know if I can even watch WWE the same again, or if I'll ever watch it at all. It's just too ed up. I must have missed the part where he said that? The doctor just misdiagnosed him. It happens every day. I don't think Vince or Triple H ever knew Punk had a life threatening condition. They certainly did not know he had MRSA. And if they did, I'm sure they would have had it treated immediately. It's foolish to act like WWE was trying to kill one of their top talents for poops n' giggles. Punk says the doctor told him working on the staph infection should have killed him and Punk said cutting it out was the most painful experience of his life and he's had a fractured skull... |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Nov 28, 2014 19:22:55 GMT -5
You know I was just thinking... CM Punk can mock WWE's medical staff, but I bet Khali sure is grateful they found his brain tumor in time. And he can ridicule the concussion texts, but Christian, Corey Graves, & Dolph Ziggler are proof that if time is needed, they will give talent time off to properly heel from concussions. If they really ran their test but still weren't sure, it sounds like the tests are inconsistent. They worked for other guys but maybe not always. |
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Post by marino13 on Nov 28, 2014 19:29:56 GMT -5
You know I was just thinking... CM Punk can mock WWE's medical staff, but I bet Khali sure is grateful they found his brain tumor in time. And he can ridicule the concussion texts, but Christian, Corey Graves, & Dolph Ziggler are proof that if time is needed, they will give talent time off to properly heel from concussions. I'm sure he was a bit more upset about the staph infection that could have killed him. He has every right to mock the medical staff after that. But how many people everyday get second opinions from other doctors? If I get hurt at work I go through their protocol. Which also includes drugs tests. And if their doctors can't find anything, and I know something is wrong, I'd simply make an appointment with another doctor. So how hard would it have been for Punk to call up an outside doctor and make an appointment sooner? Nobody told him he had to wait 3 months to go to another doctor. |
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Post by Tyler Black on Nov 28, 2014 19:30:31 GMT -5
I already gave most of my opinion earlier in this thread. What a coincidence that CM Punk trashes Ryback as soon as Ryback starts to get a push...trying to kill his momentum with the internet fans??? Every wrestlers goal is to main event mania... why is punk more entitled than others? If Ryback was too rough maybe Punk should of opted for a desk job instead. ..I'd like to see Punk vs vader, dr.death, stiener brothers or any other of the hard hitting tough guys of the past. Imagine the bitching he would of done working in early ecw lol. At least Shawn Michaels helped his "kliq" with his moaning and politics...I'd compare punk to Him, except punk was only out for himself. You don't know what you're talking about honestly. Vader was Stiff Ryback is Unsafe. Vader would hit you hard but he'd never seriously injure you or kick you so hard he'd break your ribs. When you worked Vader you knew what you were in for but you also knew the guy wouldn't seriously injure you by, I don't know completely missing a table and dumping you from 10 feet up onto the ing concrete. I've never liked Ryback never have never will and these stories from Punk further prove it. I'm finally at peace with the whole Punk situation. Punk always has been and always will be my favorite wrestler. If he wasn't safe and healthy he had every right to leave good for him. What I found most interesting is Cena tells Vince and Trips " you this is stupid" So now we know Cena isn't exactly happy with WWE either. |
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