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Post by slappy on Dec 10, 2014 17:53:45 GMT -5
They made it a table match so Cena wouldn't have to be pinned.
It's why they changed the Ambrose/Cena match to a pole match. So Ambrose could win without pinning Cena.
It's why the only match Bray won against Cena was a cage match where he walked out of the cage. Cena lost but wasn't pinned.
It's why Cena had to destroy the Wyatts after losing to Brock.
KEEP CENA STRONG
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Post by PJ on Dec 10, 2014 17:53:46 GMT -5
He's a heel...they don't win cleanly unless they are named Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 18:29:27 GMT -5
I'll lose my sh*t (in a good way) if Cena loses because then we get Orton vs. Lesnar
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Post by The Yes Man on Dec 10, 2014 18:40:36 GMT -5
How long have some of you been wrestling fans? Not very if you think a heel NEEDS to win clean. A good heel isn't supposed to make you think he can win clean, he just has to make you think he can win by any means necessary.
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Post by BØRNS on Dec 10, 2014 18:48:49 GMT -5
If Rollins wins, it won't mean anything. The whole point of it being a tables match to begin with is so that Cena can lose, but since he doesn't have to get pinned, he doesn't really lose. via Imgflip Meme Maker
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 10, 2014 19:03:10 GMT -5
WWE has been devaluing rollins for to long now.This chicken heel crap needs to stop,it hurting his character badly.Now i know heels have to do unhanded things but they got this guy going around looking stupid and losing on a constant basis.Im not a super huge rollins fan but i do believe this guy is a great worker.Im crossing my fingers he picks up a clean win this sunday.I dont care if cena some how gets another shot at Lesnar thats fine,i just want rollins a little more protected.I would hate to see somthing stupid like cena accidently stepping thru the table or somthing like that,they need to have rollins curb stomp cena's buckethead right thru the damn table nice and clean lol. Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 19:03:59 GMT -5
How long have some of you been wrestling fans? Not very if you think a heel NEEDS to win clean. A good heel isn't supposed to make you think he can win clean, he just has to make you think he can win by any means necessary. How long have i been a fan,lets see since the mid 90's.Like i said heels do dirty things to get heat, but they dont have to make seth look like a **** in the process.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 19:10:51 GMT -5
WWE has been devaluing rollins for to long now.This chicken heel crap needs to stop,it hurting his character badly.Now i know heels have to do unhanded things but they got this guy going around looking stupid and losing on a constant basis.Im not a super huge rollins fan but i do believe this guy is a great worker.Im crossing my fingers he picks up a clean win this sunday.I dont care if cena some how gets another shot at Lesnar thats fine,i just want rollins a little more protected.I would hate to see somthing stupid like cena accidently stepping thru the table or somthing like that,they need to have rollins curb stomp cena's buckethead right thru the damn table nice and clean lol. Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis... Them wins didnt mean anything
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Post by cordless2016 on Dec 10, 2014 19:27:38 GMT -5
Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis... Them wins didnt mean anything How is going over 3 of the company's top stars and wrestling THE man to a stalemate multiple times mean nothing...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2014 19:28:14 GMT -5
Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis... Them wins didnt mean anything You said he's constantly losing, clearly he's not.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 10, 2014 20:10:29 GMT -5
Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis... Them wins didnt mean anything Yes. Yes they did.
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Dec 10, 2014 21:44:14 GMT -5
I said it in another thread but there's no way Rollins wins cleanly. I'd put money on Lesnar coming down and putting Cena through a table.
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Post by HVMMONS on Dec 11, 2014 2:04:46 GMT -5
If Cena loses this Sunday, Cena loses his #1 contender spot at Brock, which isn't going to happen. I'd be shocked if he did lose. Then Orton comes in the picture (I wish). Psyche, probably Reigns. Seth needs to win. But he won't.
When Randy returns, he NEEDS to fully turn face. Those RKO Vines are hilarious.
Orton vs. Brock for the Rumble.
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Post by Chip on Dec 13, 2014 1:56:09 GMT -5
absolutely no way Cena loses. Because CenaVSLesnar and YOU WILL LIKE IT Rollins has been on fire this year. Should have won Superstar of the Year Slammy. He's a heel but he actually wins a lot and is pretty much one of the main focus points of every show. It's ing awesome.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 3:10:31 GMT -5
Cena will win.....because his match(& loss) with Brocky will be some kind of springboard for his WM storyline. Honestly I will be happy enough if Rollins just looks great against Cena and if Cena looks exhausted and pushed to the limit after the match.
Y'know maybe Rollins cocky attitude could cost him the match suddenly? Its a tables match after all.....it CAN be booked to protect Seth.
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Post by Chip on Dec 13, 2014 10:30:06 GMT -5
i think we should all try something.... all of us. seriously...hear me out... lets just ing FORGET about "booking strong" or "looking weak" for ONE match. lets just sit back, watch, and see if Cena & Rollins tear it up. REGARDLESS of the outcome. We all pretty much know Cena is going to win to set up the title match vs Brock at Rumble. So instead of getting annoyed at HOW it happens....lets just watch with an open/empty mind and see if the MATCH is enjoyable. Without worrying about how it's "booked" just follow the story of the match. is it a good story, is there build to big spots? do they up at all? stuff like that.... Because truthfully...Rollins can lose Sunday, then on RAW the next night attack Cena or something or face Sheamus or Ryback or whoever, get a pinfall and no one would even care. At this point everyone on the roster is/has and always will end up losing to Cena. But in the end it's not going to change, so I'm going to start worrying about what they are doing when they AREN'T losing to Cena
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Dec 13, 2014 10:36:11 GMT -5
i think we should all try something.... all of us. seriously...hear me out... lets just ing FORGET about "booking strong" or "looking weak" for ONE match. lets just sit back, watch, and see if Cena & Rollins tear it up. REGARDLESS of the outcome. We all pretty much know Cena is going to win to set up the title match vs Brock at Rumble. So instead of getting annoyed at HOW it happens....lets just watch with an open/empty mind and see if the MATCH is enjoyable. Without worrying about how it's "booked" just follow the story of the match. is it a good story, is there build to big spots? do they up at all? stuff like that.... Because truthfully...Rollins can lose Sunday, then on RAW the next night attack Cena or something or face Sheamus or Ryback or whoever, get a pinfall and no one would even care. At this point everyone on the roster is/has and always will end up losing to Cena. But in the end it's not going to change, so I'm going to start worrying about what they are doing when they AREN'T losing to Cena This. I noted that while watching TakeOver, I wasn't an armchair booker, a guy who goes back and forth about the company on a forum or some internet mark. I was a fan. I wanted Sasha Banks and Sami Zayn to win BADLY. I knew Charlotte would win but I got lost in the match and felt like a kid just enjoying wrestling again. That entire show made me feel like a fan again. It's so much more enjoyable when you don't go in saying "OMG THIS GUY IS GETTING BURIED AGAIN" or "JOHN CENA WINS, THIS COMPANY IT'S STUPID". Granted, it's tougher to do that with the main roster product, but still.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 11:34:37 GMT -5
Rollins went 4-0 against Ambrose, has beaten Ziggler on a weekly basis for months, fought Cena to a stalemate a few times, and just a few weeks ago went over Orton clean on Raw. Not sure how he is losing on a constant basis... Them wins didnt mean anything Them wins mean quite a lot actually...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 13, 2014 12:16:26 GMT -5
I hope he wins. I don't want to see Cena vs Brock again. If Brock is to retain, I want a fresh match. Hell, Brock isn't ever around and when he is he's feuding with Cena since basically July. Damn it man.
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Post by bababooey on Dec 13, 2014 14:25:35 GMT -5
This is a bad match for Rollins because he shouldn't win it. I don't see the point of making him #1 contender when he has money in the bank.
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