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Post by bad guy™ on Dec 28, 2014 13:14:19 GMT -5
The same reason Bryan was shoved down everyones throat That's not even...remotely close to compare. I'm not the biggest Bryan fan, but the man had been lurking on the mid card for some time, as a singles competitor mind you. He had a US title run, and a MITB run where he LOST most of his matches. He had a chance to work up to his time where he EARNED his spot as a top guy. He certainly was not shoved down our throats. After the Royal Rumble, it was the Daniel Bryan show until he ed up his neck. As a mega Bryan fan, even I'll admit it was going to get old quick because it was already starting.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 13:17:58 GMT -5
Vince likes him and if vince likes someone they get pushed
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Post by Calcifer Boheme on Dec 28, 2014 14:31:17 GMT -5
He's got a great look and a certain natural charm and charisma. He is good enough on the mic and in the ring (I know people argue that point), and he can get the crowd behind him.
Do I think he should main event Wrestlemania 31? No. But I think he has the potential to be a major player for years to come. I've liked him since FCW and the only reason I see for the hate now is that it's the cool thing to do. And I'm not just talking about not being a fan of him, but this trend of being completely anti-Reigns. It's gotten ridiculous.
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Post by Duck Holliday on Dec 28, 2014 15:51:57 GMT -5
Look and potential is all I see. Athletic. We'll see.....
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Post by E-Noon on Dec 28, 2014 15:54:33 GMT -5
That's not even...remotely close to compare. I'm not the biggest Bryan fan, but the man had been lurking on the mid card for some time, as a singles competitor mind you. He had a US title run, and a MITB run where he LOST most of his matches. He had a chance to work up to his time where he EARNED his spot as a top guy. He certainly was not shoved down our throats. After the Royal Rumble, it was the Daniel Bryan show until he ed up his neck. As a mega Bryan fan, even I'll admit it was going to get old quick because it was already starting. After WWE trying to do whatever they could to kill Bryans heat. The fans refused it. I thought that was some of the most entertaining thing in WWE in years and it was nothing WWE or creative did. It was the fans. They tried to make Cena vs Orton 30 the most important match ever but fans wanted Bryan. They tried putting him with the Wyatts but blew up in their face like an ACME cartoon. And after he wasn't even a participant in the Rumble it was the final straw. Bryan got over the most natural way. End of story. Hell, even Ryback got a bigger pop than Reigns on Raw. They can have him eliminate all 29 guys in Rumble and 5 in the EC but come Wrestlemania when its him one on one with someone that crowd will be dead.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 16:05:50 GMT -5
His swag is off the charts
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Post by BØRNS on Dec 28, 2014 17:16:35 GMT -5
Well if you think facing Big Show in the second hour of RAW is "being shoved down our throats" you are going to love him in 2015. Before and after his injury he's been main-eventing SmackDown! every week. Since Lesnar/Cena is at the RR they're giving attention to them in the main event. Just watch after RR Roman will be main eventing Raw & SmackDown! each week.
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Post by johnnyb on Dec 28, 2014 17:42:01 GMT -5
Funny thing is people have been dying for someone to take Cena's place as the top guy for years, and when someone actually starts to get in line to do it, everyone bitches because it's not who they want. Most people I know were thrilled when it looked like Punk was going to be the next #1 guy. Of course, HHH made sure that didn't happen (and I'm sure Cena was more than happy to undermine Punk's reign to keep his own "spot"). And people might have been even more enthusiastic about Daniel Bryan. And there is tons of support for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose. Reigns is just terrible. In nearly every way. He isn't good enough as a singles wrestler to be the top guy. He was perfect when they were protecting him as the hoss of the Shield, but since they broke up he's been extremely underwhelming. Even Orton had trouble getting a passable match out of him.
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Post by TurboEddie on Dec 28, 2014 18:55:10 GMT -5
His great promos.
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Post by Chip on Dec 28, 2014 20:21:26 GMT -5
nothing is special about the guy to be honest.
he hits power moves, can jump 4 ft in the air, and has muscles. the WWE are the ones making the decisions here...they are the ones making sure he looks strong, making sure he wins all the time and making sure the fans "believe dat"
could he be the next "batista"? absolutely. should he be the next "john cena" absolutely NOT
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Post by Chip on Dec 28, 2014 20:23:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 22:04:46 GMT -5
Funny thing is people have been dying for someone to take Cena's place as the top guy for years, and when someone actually starts to get in line to do it, everyone bitches because it's not who they want. Most people I know were thrilled when it looked like Punk was going to be the next #1 guy. Of course, HHH made sure that didn't happen (and I'm sure Cena was more than happy to undermine Punk's reign to keep his own "spot"). And people might have been even more enthusiastic about Daniel Bryan. And there is tons of support for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose. Reigns is just terrible. In nearly every way. He isn't good enough as a singles wrestler to be the top guy. He was perfect when they were protecting him as the hoss of the Shield, but since they broke up he's been extremely underwhelming. Even Orton had trouble getting a passable match out of him. it' s as simple at that. any one that Regins gets hate because it' s cool. Have no idea what the they are taking about.
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Post by Mr Angry Cena on Dec 28, 2014 22:12:05 GMT -5
Buddies cool AF.
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Post by Quazimoto on Dec 28, 2014 23:52:15 GMT -5
I think most people in the IWC don't really have a problem with Roman Reigns himself. It's more the fact that of the three Shield members, Reigns was far and away the THIRD best in the group (the argument could be made for Rollins or Ambrose as THE best of the three - my vote would go to Rollins). More importantly, it's been clear for a while that while Ambrose and Rollins are bot clearly ready and have the ability to play a bigger role in the company and be new fixtures in the main event scene, Roman Reigns clearly is not at that same level. Anyone who's ever watched wrestling for six months or more can see that, yet Roman Reigns is the one who's seemingly being poised for that "Next Major Main Event Star" spot instead of Rollins or Ambrose (who, to be fair, have gotten that spot while Reigns was out and Lesnar was sitting at home).
Yet, despite all that, it certainly seems that whomever is calling the shots in WWE has decided that Roman Reigns is the "Next Big Thing" instead of others who are obviously more ready for the role. In short, they're forcing the issue instead of letting it develop organically and I think that's where the anger and upset comes from for a large portion of the fan base (well, at least the online fan base). They feel like even though they, as fans, devote a large chunk of time and often money to WWE and WWE merchandise, they aren't being listened to when it comes to who they want as main event players in the company. That's what happened with Daniel Bryan heading into WrestleMania last year and it might just happen again if WWE continues to push less capable performers while Rollins, Ambrose, Cesaro, Ziggler, and other far more talented wrestlers keep bumping into the glass ceiling.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Dec 28, 2014 23:54:05 GMT -5
I like Roman plus he irritates people so I like him even more.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 3:22:09 GMT -5
Most people I know were thrilled when it looked like Punk was going to be the next #1 guy. Of course, HHH made sure that didn't happen (and I'm sure Cena was more than happy to undermine Punk's reign to keep his own "spot"). And people might have been even more enthusiastic about Daniel Bryan. And there is tons of support for Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose. Reigns is just terrible. In nearly every way. He isn't good enough as a singles wrestler to be the top guy. He was perfect when they were protecting him as the hoss of the Shield, but since they broke up he's been extremely underwhelming. Even Orton had trouble getting a passable match out of him. it' s as simple at that. any one that Regins gets hate because it' s cool. Have no idea what the they are taking about. Pretty ignorant statement. Reigns is fine. He'll never be the best on the mic, but he's got a natural charisma and a moveset that gets big pops. He's also not nearly as bad in ring as most say. He's not great by any means, but you'd think he's worse than Khali reading this thread. That said, his push is too soon. And I 100% believe part of the hate is him getting pushed over other guys.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 3:34:30 GMT -5
People seem to be jealous that there guy is not in Reigns spot so then the hate reigns down...
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Post by Hulk Who? on Dec 29, 2014 3:43:03 GMT -5
Is there any chance Reigns turns heel in all this? Because that would work I think, like Rock at Survivor Series 98. And it would feed into the problems some fans are having with his push, might be perfect. I have been poking fun at Reigns a bit, but I do think he's good. Heel turn reuinited with Rollins works, or something like Cena's WMXX spot vs Show, establish him as the next big star for WM32, 31 just seems ... well you all know.
Reigns isn't quite in the same popular position as Rock was in SS98 where his turn would seem like such a betrayal, might still work though. Rock was really on fire at that point. In other words position Reigns as the man opposing the Authority, if that returns, then have him join. I could get on board for that easily, and it would provide Reigns the opportunity to work on what he needs.
edit: posted this in the wrong thread earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:32:07 GMT -5
I like Roman plus he irritates people so I like him even more. Me too
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:13:52 GMT -5
I'm personally a fan but he is no huge stand out by no means. But when it reigns it pours
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