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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 22:59:54 GMT -5
...is the craft too much for the human body and brain?
I've loved professional wrestling for 15 years, and always will. It's a genre of entertainment that brings together people of all walks of life, personalities, nationalities, races, religions, income levels, and even generations.
However, recently listening to CM Punk's interview with Colt Cabana from late November has opened my eyes to so much. The travel, the wear and tear, and the injuries seem to destroy your average worker. I'm not even sure that the fame and wealth would be worth the destruction. Just thinking about the fatigue and mental deterioration that affects individuals who work regular shift jobs - especially in tough, factory conditions - and to multiply that by a thousand, I wonder how many workers can calm their minds to sleep at night with how keyed up they must be from the stimulation of performing in front of such immense crowds.
As mentioned, I love everything about pro wrestling, and always have. It's such an escape, and with the world WWE has created of media, merchandise, etc., I'll never move away from it. I love the history of it, from the carnival era to now. But, I must inquire - is professional wrestling too much for the human body and brain?
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Post by Nivro™ on Dec 27, 2014 23:02:11 GMT -5
I dont think its really any worse then any other athlete honestly.
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Post by June on Dec 27, 2014 23:04:11 GMT -5
Www was so tough on poor Punk, he has legitimate concerns about his health long term, so it's only logical he step into the work of mixed martial arts.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 27, 2014 23:53:03 GMT -5
The only answer for this, can be heard in most shoots, but one in particular. Ryback on Talk is Jericho's Podcast. He went in depth with how physical wrestling can be, then all of the outside events like travel, signings, media events, and WWE media events like photo shoots and interviews.
It comes down to one thing. Passion, those that absolutely
Love wrestling, are the ones that will literally walk through hell for it to be their lifestyle.
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Dec 27, 2014 23:57:37 GMT -5
I feel that it's no more or less physically demanding than any other pro sport. At least not as harsh as MMA is. In every pro sport you are going to incur countless injuries, that's just the nature of things. At the same time all of these athletes know exactly what they are getting into when they decide to become a professional so they should know the risks. The only difference between wrestling and say Hockey is that hockey players have stretches where they don't have to travel. If a team is on a homestand they get to relax a little bit more and then there's an off season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 23:59:12 GMT -5
They need to rotate guys in and out.
Not necessairly an "off season" but more of a rotation where small groups of guys at a time have an "off season" during various parts of the year.
This would help with storylines and characters becoming stale due to overexposure as well.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Dec 27, 2014 23:59:46 GMT -5
I think wrestling is just as athletic and physical on a nightly basis, but most athletes aren't competing and traveling over 300 days a year. I think that is the key difference.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 23:59:54 GMT -5
Www was so tough on poor Punk, he has legitimate concerns about his health long term, so it's only logical he step into the work of mixed martial arts. Dumb comparison. |
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Post by ewilliams7237 on Dec 28, 2014 0:07:17 GMT -5
I agree with the statement on rotating talent. I think all hands on deck during royal rumble to mania. Then you rotate through out the year. If they can't afford to give someone to much time off then at least take them off house shows and just keep on live TV events.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 28, 2014 0:11:56 GMT -5
I agree with the statement on rotating talent. I think all hands on deck during royal rumble to mania. Then you rotate through out the year. If they can't afford to give someone to much time off then at least take them off house shows and just keep on live TV events. They can afford it, the wrestlers can't. If you aren't working you aren't getting paid. WWE sure as hell won't pay talent to sit at home during an "off season". Its as simple as this. You are busting you're ass for pennies while WWE makes dollars. Some people can put that aside because they love wrestling and they are walking their heros steps. Some giys love the spotlight, and will fight througj injuries and fatigue for that fame. Some guys are willing to do more for less pay. For those that can't handle it, there are always people to fill their roles. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 1:38:21 GMT -5
The talent should get scheduled paid vacations. At least two weeks a year. Start with letting the wrestlers with the most seniority have first dibs on which weeks they want from the month after WM through December. No more than four wrestlers get time off at the same time. No more than one Main Eventer gets time off at a time, same with tag teams.
They might down a money maker all the time but still have the others. It could help feuds stay fresher and give talent lower on the card to move up for a few weeks and test them out in a higher position. Or they can keep going like they do and have half of them gone at the time with injuries for longer than two weeks a year.
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Post by jayrod2009 on Dec 28, 2014 1:44:56 GMT -5
The talent should get scheduled paid vacations. At least two weeks. Start with letting the wrestlers with the most seniority have first dibs on which weeks they want from the month after WM through December. No more than four wrestlers get time off at the same time. No more than one Main Eventer gets time off at a time, same with tag teams. You can't do this. The veterans would have first rights. The problem with that is, everyone will want off after Wrestlemania. So you have no vets. Then, what if your writters have stories for a star thats bqoked to be off for 2 weeks? It would cause problems. Sure, it would be no different than an injured wrestler, and writters having to change things. It won't happen. Every wrestler knows, that in wrestling, there's NO insurance and NO time off. Thats the buisness. WWE has the hardest travel schedule/work schedule that any other company ever, but thats the price you pay to try and have a legacy left behind in wrestling. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 28, 2014 1:47:43 GMT -5
They could always have a short "off season" for everybody immediately following Wrestlemania every year.
I'm not sure how long of a time period and I'm sure sponsorship, television contracts, etc. all play a role in this...
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Post by Mr. PerpetuaLynch Motion on Dec 28, 2014 2:01:17 GMT -5
Www was so tough on poor Punk, he has legitimate concerns about his health long term, so it's only logical he step into the work of mixed martial arts. You must have missed the part where he has taken 11 months off and has said that all of the injuries that nagged him for the last few years no longer seem to bother him... It's a wonder what actual rest will do to a person's health. |
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Post by Sleazyness on Dec 28, 2014 2:26:35 GMT -5
Your Iggy Azalea signature is too much for me...
No, but in all seriousness, CM Punk wasn't the most well-built athlete so I will have to say "no" on this one.
Cena has been through more imo.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Dec 28, 2014 3:38:36 GMT -5
Yes and no. Wrestling is incredibly tough on the body, but the grueling WWE schedule has to be factored into this as well.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Dec 28, 2014 5:32:00 GMT -5
If it's worth it to the wrestler then it's worth it to them. There's no way to say if it's worth it in general. Life is not a safe endeavor really, nor should we want it to be, you can only get real peace on a dead planet like the moon, all the peace you could ever want there. ^ And what Kyle3000 said, you have to be a genetic freak like Cena, not really an average man. I doubt all those indy guys like Balor, Owens etc are thinking they're signing up for hell, it's what they want to do, I'm sure they heard Punk but still think it is for them, just not him anymore.
Reminds of what HBK said on the Fab Four release from years back, you have to be really tough, or really dumb, he said he was really dumb. lol
No one is forced to be there, it's not as if you have to earn a living wrestling. But also, yea it's been really sad how many great wrestlers have died young, and tough to watch.
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Post by Devilkiller on Dec 28, 2014 5:45:27 GMT -5
Rotating wouldn't work. There are many guys who want to work literally 300 days a year, but there's some who wants only 200. It's all about the person. I think every 5 years a superstar should be allowed 2-6 weeks off to rejuvenate. That's my opinion. Wrestlings hard, I do it all the time in my ring and wrestle with an audience almost every 2 weeks. It's demanding, but it's worth it. To those that it's not worth it to. Get the  out. Simple as that. |
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Post by marino13 on Dec 28, 2014 9:45:40 GMT -5
Any athlete knows the risks and rewards of their selected profession. Whether that means WWE, NFL, NBA or any other sport out there. They bust their ass now while they're young so they can retire wealthy and at a relatively young age. It grants them financial freedom for the rest of their lives. And grants them the ability to support those around them.
It may be hard now, but it sure as hell beats working in a factory 40 hours a week till you retire in your 60's. Living from check to check. Hoping to have enough left over to make sure your kids have a good christmas. And that's only if you're lucky enough not to die beforehand. And those people have to scrap just to get by. Ask any of them if they would have sacrificed a sore knee or a tricky elbow just to retire twenty years ago with lifelong financial freedom. See what they say.
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Dec 28, 2014 10:47:18 GMT -5
Your Iggy Azalea signature is too much for me... No, but in all seriousness, CM Punk wasn't the most well-built athlete so I will have to say "no" on this one. Cena has been through more imo. That's doubtful, just because of the two styles. Punk worked a much more physical, faster paced, high impact style for his entire career. That isn't to say Cena isn't physical, because it is, but minus his top rope leg drop it isn't as high impact. As for Punk, he looked more like an MMA fighter than a wrestler (most fighters aren't shredded, it is a good way to tear a muscle), go figure  |
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