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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 14:45:26 GMT -5
No more Chambers then?........bring on an Armageddon Hell In The Cell or mother  ing War Games. I'd be all for a war games return. |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 19, 2015 15:21:50 GMT -5
Stephane McMahon said getting rid of the Chamber was a logistics issue do I don't think we'll be seeing it again anytime soon. Yeah, apparently they can't hang it up anymore because of all the stadiums using giant video boards now. It weighs a lot more than the HIAC I'd imagine, so the Chamber may be done for. I would be all for an Armageddon HIAC match though! I'd rather have War Games back but I don't see that coming anytime... well ever. |
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Post by theMOESIAH on Jan 19, 2015 15:23:20 GMT -5
No more Chambers then?........bring on an Armageddon Hell In The Cell or mother ing War Games. I'd be all for a war games return. Ah you beat me to it. |
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Post by JC Motors on Jan 19, 2015 15:42:33 GMT -5
Stephane McMahon said getting rid of the Chamber was a logistics issue do I don't think we'll be seeing it again anytime soon. Really? All she has to do is consult with a Logistics and Supply chain expert who can help minimize their logistical problem. |
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Post by sitruC on Jan 19, 2015 16:23:41 GMT -5
It'll happen in a couple of years most likely.
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Post by BØRNS on Jan 19, 2015 16:27:22 GMT -5
That is so lame. And the thing about it being too heavy is an excuse. Plus, you can take down those central scoreboards. The real reason they are getting rid of it is because they don't have enough (top tier) talent to put on a decent EC match anymore (and still fill the rest of the card).
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 19, 2015 17:12:03 GMT -5
No more gimmick PPVs. They've outstayed their welcome. They are putting guys in gimmick matches now because they HAVE to instead of it making sense storyline-wise. Considering it's fake, they could and should time the storylines to make sense with the PPV. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 19, 2015 17:14:45 GMT -5
No more gimmick PPVs. They've outstayed their welcome. They are putting guys in gimmick matches now because they HAVE to instead of it making sense storyline-wise. Considering it's fake, they could and should time the storylines to make sense with the PPV. The problem is, that hasn't been the case. They just shoehorn six guys into the Chamber simply because it's February. It's how we end up with John Morrison, the Great Khali, Finlay, MVP, Drew McIntyre, BIG DADDY FREAKING V, Kofi Kingston, etc. in these matches when everyone knows they have no chance. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 19, 2015 17:20:01 GMT -5
The problem is, that hasn't been the case. They just shoehorn six guys into the Chamber simply because it's February. It's how we end up with John Morrison, the Great Khali, Finlay, MVP, Drew McIntyre, BIG DADDY FREAKING V, Kofi Kingston, etc. in these matches when everyone knows they have no chance. As opposed to January, when we have thirty guys who all totally have a solid chance at winning the Rumble. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 19, 2015 17:28:05 GMT -5
The problem is, that hasn't been the case. They just shoehorn six guys into the Chamber simply because it's February. It's how we end up with John Morrison, the Great Khali, Finlay, MVP, Drew McIntyre, BIG DADDY FREAKING V, Kofi Kingston, etc. in these matches when everyone knows they have no chance. As opposed to January, when we have thirty guys who all totally have a solid chance at winning the Rumble. I'm cool with that once a year. I don't need them to shoehorn in guys who are 50/50 booked mid carders and have no chance, into a WWE Title match of all things. The Elimination Chamber is always fun, but the best ones were always when it had a bunch of who had legit chances. It's fine to give everyone one the roster (mostly) a shot to win something big once a year, but to do it again three weeks later is dumb. Also, I never liked that there's a backdoor way to get into the WrestleMania main event. Like, you win the Rumble, you should be there. But six guys get a chance to win the title before the Rumble winner? Not good to me. Maybe it's just me. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 19, 2015 17:36:28 GMT -5
Also, I never liked that there's a backdoor way to get into the WrestleMania main event. Like, you win the Rumble, you should be there. But six guys get a chance to win the title before the Rumble winner? Not good to me. Maybe it's just me. Considering Elimination Chamber was one of the four biggest PPVs of the year, you were in the minority -- of course, it doesn't matter now because most people who have the network for the Rumble would keep it until WrestleMania anyway so WWE can do what they want for February. But I have the feeling this is going to end up like when everyone was happy at the idea of Lesnar beating Cena for the title, then it happened and they started complaining about Lesnar too. We're losing the Elimination Chamber, and what replaces it in the main event will probably be some pointless, Raw-level tag match like Cena, Reigns and Bryan vs Rollins, Big Show and Kane. I don't see that as a good trade-off. |
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 19, 2015 17:57:53 GMT -5
Also, I never liked that there's a backdoor way to get into the WrestleMania main event. Like, you win the Rumble, you should be there. But six guys get a chance to win the title before the Rumble winner? Not good to me. Maybe it's just me. Considering Elimination Chamber was one of the four biggest PPVs of the year, you were in the minority -- of course, it doesn't matter now because most people who have the network for the Rumble would keep it until WrestleMania anyway so WWE can do what they want for February. But I have the feeling this is going to end up like when everyone was happy at the idea of Lesnar beating Cena for the title, then it happened and they started complaining about Lesnar too. We're losing the Elimination Chamber, and what replaces it in the main event will probably be some pointless, Raw-level tag match like Cena, Reigns and Bryan vs Rollins, Big Show and Kane. I don't see that as a good trade-off. That much I'll agree with. I didn't see the point in loving Lesnar over Cena, only to complain later. It's why I appreciate that Chip has stayed consistent about it. Also, with the rumored tag match main event for Fast Lane, I would prefer an Elimination Chamber. |
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Post by Ian from 616Entertainment. on Jan 19, 2015 18:52:42 GMT -5
None lived up to the expectation after the first one, especially when it became it's own PPV. I think the Survivor Series 2002 (first ever) Chamber match is one of the best matches of that decade. One of my favorite matches ever. |
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Post by cordless2016 on Jan 19, 2015 20:47:49 GMT -5
I'm fine with the EC going away for a while. The matches haven't made sense storyline wise since the third EC match and like other have said; due to the wwes crappy booking we end up with guys like big daddy v and khali in the EC due to a lack of top stars.
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Post by HHH316 on Jan 19, 2015 21:25:58 GMT -5
I think it needs to go away for a long time. As does HIAC. They've both been done to death.
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Post by Zigzag on Jan 20, 2015 10:14:13 GMT -5
Seems like maybe an appropriate time to try WarGames, or maybe a new concept we haven't ever seen before. Something to drum up interest in a get me to Mania PPV. To put their own "stamp" on it, to make them feel that it's "theirs", they could do a Wargames-style match inside a Hell In The Cell cage. |
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Post by hellojoeivers on Jan 21, 2015 7:47:49 GMT -5
Yeah like a lot of people are saying, I'd love to see an Elimination Chamber match but only when the time's right. Personally I think TLC and Hell in a Cell have to go too, as generally when it comes to it, there's not much need for either match (such as Cena and Orton at the latest Hell in a Cell PPV)
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Post by PenguinDeluxe on Jan 21, 2015 8:04:13 GMT -5
The whole reason for the gimmick PPVs were because they did better buyrates. But now, buyrates don't really matter, Network sales do. I don't see the gimmick PPVs influencing Network subscriptions in the same way they influenced PPV buys honestly. I would much rather them let the feuds flow naturally into gimmick matches instead of shoehorning it or making it so obvious. Dean Ambrose and Bray Wyatt is the perfect example looking at Ambrose's attack on Wyatt at Survivor Series. "Oh, he attacked him with tables, ladders and chairs? And the next event is TLC? Hmm... I wonder..."  |
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