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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 26, 2015 9:40:31 GMT -5
I love how ask the marks are trying to turn this into people throwing a bitch fit about not liking who win the Rumble, despite EVERYONE saying this was the weirdest booked show ever. Terrible decision after terrible decision and now literally telling all paying fans (live and on the Network) to go themselves, but yeah, the is just the IWC acting up again. It can't be said enough, all you modern fans, WWE apologists and the rest of you who will put up with whatever garbage they fling at your TV screens every week have ruined wrestling. You want a valid reason to cancel your subscriptions? Go back and look at the audience's reaction (or the Rock's reaction to that) and know that they don't care. These things keep happening because they know that you people will keep paying no matter what they do. The guy in the ing bunny costume is more over than the conquering hero headlining into WrestleMania. Is this a Mark Madden Wrestlezone article?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 9:42:49 GMT -5
"Ugh why do they never build new stars, we saw Cena and Batista win the last two Royal Rumbles it's time for something new" -- Angry wresling fans. "Roman Reigns? He's not ready. Waaaah" -- Angry wrestling fans. I've honestly never come across a bunch of people so self entitled. This is wrestling, it's supposed to be a fun hobby. If you don't enjoy it, which based on these reactions then it's best you just piss off and find something else, rather than self-torture yourself for hours every week. Let's see if you can comprehend this. Yes the fans wanted someone new. However, the fans would like someone that they want to win. You know, common sense. Roman has LOADS of potential but the fans are more invested and care more about Bryan, Ambrose and Ziggle. They are upset because they are being told who to like. There is no crying going on from a lot of us. Some yes, but some are just stating their opinions on the matter and are considered to be crybabies. This if the biggest ing insult. Oh look, the tired "don't like, don't watch" response. How original? I will watch wrestling because I'm a wrestling fan. I may not like the outcomes but there are still a ton of things I enjoy. Even the people who cancel their network, most will still watch because there are a lot of things that they enjoy. Because Roman won, myself and others won't stop watching Seth Rollins (the MVP of last night and 2014 in general). Yes, pro wrestling is a fun hobby, but that doesn't mean we are just supposed to accept everything that happens and be satisfied with it. The incredibly annoying posts, not just by you, but by a lot of people insulting the intelligence of people with valid thoughts and tossing them aside as "angry wrestling fans" or "crybabies" is sickening. Fans have been pining for new stars for years, and the WWE are finally making them and they're crying because it's "the wrong one". Despite the fact that over the past year, Reigns was hot stuff and beloved by the fans, when it became known that the machine was behind him the fans inexplicably turned on him. "cancelwwenetwork" is one of the biggest twitter trends right now. There is unquestionably crying from fans. The "don't like, don't watch" reasoning is perfectly valid. If you find yourself complaining about something more than you enjoying it, why continue? What's the point? If again, the fans deluded themselves with possibilities that were never going to happen, then it's really nobody's fault but their own. It's like the equivalent of expecting Crush to win the 1994 Royal Rumble and throwing a tantrum when he didn't win it, even though it was written in the stars that either Luger or Bret were going to win. Being occasionally dissatisfied and non-stop complaining about EVERY. SINGLE. THING are two completely things entirely.
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Post by Midnight on Jan 26, 2015 9:44:37 GMT -5
Oh God! Quit your bitching. And you're the one that needs to shut the hell up. You type of Fans are whats wrong with Pro Wrestling today. Exactly. Plus I watch the Network for a lot of old stuff and NXT.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 9:44:44 GMT -5
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 26, 2015 9:46:45 GMT -5
Let's see if you can comprehend this. Yes the fans wanted someone new. However, the fans would like someone that they want to win. You know, common sense. Roman has LOADS of potential but the fans are more invested and care more about Bryan, Ambrose and Ziggle. They are upset because they are being told who to like. There is no crying going on from a lot of us. Some yes, but some are just stating their opinions on the matter and are considered to be crybabies. This if the biggest ing insult. Oh look, the tired "don't like, don't watch" response. How original? I will watch wrestling because I'm a wrestling fan. I may not like the outcomes but there are still a ton of things I enjoy. Even the people who cancel their network, most will still watch because there are a lot of things that they enjoy. Because Roman won, myself and others won't stop watching Seth Rollins (the MVP of last night and 2014 in general). Yes, pro wrestling is a fun hobby, but that doesn't mean we are just supposed to accept everything that happens and be satisfied with it. The incredibly annoying posts, not just by you, but by a lot of people insulting the intelligence of people with valid thoughts and tossing them aside as "angry wrestling fans" or "crybabies" is sickening. Fans have been pining for new stars for years, and the WWE are finally making them and they're crying because it's "the wrong one". Despite the fact that over the past year, Reigns was hot stuff and beloved by the fans, when it became known that the machine was behind him the fans inexplicably turned on him. "cancelwwenetwork" is one of the biggest twitter trends right now. There is unquestionably crying from fans. The "don't like, don't watch" reasoning is perfectly valid. If you find yourself complaining about something more than you enjoying it, why continue? What's the point? If again, the fans deluded themselves with possibilities that were never going to happen, then it's really nobody's fault but their own. It's like the equivalent of expecting Crush to win the 1994 Royal Rumble and throwing a tantrum when he didn't win it, even though it was written in the stars that either Luger or Bret were going to win. Being occasionally dissatisfied and non-stop complaining about EVERY. SINGLE. THING are two completely things entirely. Which is why I agree about the cancelwwenetwork taking things a bit far, but it is their money and they can do what they want with it. Roman has been liked by a lot of people over the past year. It wasn't when the "machine" got behind him that things changed though. We knew this at Survivor Series '13 when he eliminated everyone and at the Royal Rumble last year when he broke Kane's record. It happened when people realized that a guy who has had one mediocre singles match on PPV in his career, just isn't ready right now. I would also agree that I'm on the occasionally dissatisfied group. I apologize if I overreacted, I've just been having a rough morning due to unrelated wrestling stuff and have been angry with some posts lately as well.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 26, 2015 9:49:16 GMT -5
I wonder if we'll get something like this on Raw tonight.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 9:58:47 GMT -5
Fans have been pining for new stars for years, and the WWE are finally making them and they're crying because it's "the wrong one". Despite the fact that over the past year, Reigns was hot stuff and beloved by the fans, when it became known that the machine was behind him the fans inexplicably turned on him. "cancelwwenetwork" is one of the biggest twitter trends right now. There is unquestionably crying from fans. The "don't like, don't watch" reasoning is perfectly valid. If you find yourself complaining about something more than you enjoying it, why continue? What's the point? If again, the fans deluded themselves with possibilities that were never going to happen, then it's really nobody's fault but their own. It's like the equivalent of expecting Crush to win the 1994 Royal Rumble and throwing a tantrum when he didn't win it, even though it was written in the stars that either Luger or Bret were going to win. Being occasionally dissatisfied and non-stop complaining about EVERY. SINGLE. THING are two completely things entirely. Which is why I agree about the cancelwwenetwork taking things a bit far, but it is their money and they can do what they want with it. Roman has been liked by a lot of people over the past year. It wasn't when the "machine" got behind him that things changed though. We knew this at Survivor Series '13 when he eliminated everyone and at the Royal Rumble last year when he broke Kane's record. It happened when people realized that a guy who has had one mediocre singles match on PPV in his career, just isn't ready right now. I would also agree that I'm on the occasionally dissatisfied group. I apologize if I overreacted, I've just been having a rough morning due to unrelated wrestling stuff and have been angry with some posts lately as well. No worries. I try not to take these things seriously. I've found since I started recording and ffing through Raw and just watching the PPVs that interest me I've enjoyed the product a lot more.
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Post by The Natural Eddy Valintino on Jan 26, 2015 10:01:32 GMT -5
I say if anyone subscribed just for the PPVs, then by all means cancel. For people like me who subscribe for the whole package (classic archives, some of the original programming, etc.), enjoy the Network and don't listen to guys like the OP who are trying to get people to unsubscribe because they don't like like Reigns won the Rumble. I have no reason to unsubscribe. Though I disliked the way the Rumble came out (might I remind you, I disliked the booking of the match itself, not the outcome of the match), I can still enjoy all the classic archived stuff on the Network. From day one of the Network I subscribed with the mindset that I wanted to see the archived stuff. The live PPVs on the Network was just extra for me.
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Post by wyleecyotee on Jan 26, 2015 10:13:21 GMT -5
Meh, I enjoyed it. It was also fun to watch 15 thousand or so people throw a tantrum.
Its amazing how quickly people turn. The crowd where chanting for Rusev by the end of it, why? Because if they don't get what they want then no one does. Who would you really want to see main event WrestleMania? Rusev or Reigns?
You know who where my favourites growing up? The Hardys and Benoit. The Hardys who won like once every 10 PPVs and had the odd Tag Title reign and then theres Benoit. Twice he "won" the title in 2000 only for a two time only match restart to lose it. Loses most of his big matches in his early career, has a year out only to be booked in a tag match at Mania (although I think he was back up for Angle cos of his neck). Then he had an awesome Rumble and Mania (yay) which made me a happy fan even though HBK was shoehorned into the match and HBK/HHH feud was showcased more again... then he was in a MITB match because he didnt have a storyline the next year and demoted to the US title for the rest of his career. Did I moan and complain and cancel my TV license or write angry letters? No. Why? Because theres a lot more to the product and my enjoyment of it than who wins and loses. Rollins lost last night but the match was awesome, no ones complaining about that one.
Everyone and their mother knew Reigns was winning, you could have cancelled your subscription pre-Rumble, not bought tickets or not showed up.
You do realise that #cancelwwesub trending means nothing right? The majority of those people wont cancel their subscriptions or skip Raw or WrestleMania and just because its trending doesn't mean people are doing it, they could be talking about how stupid it is. Like now if this was on Twitter, my # would add to that count but I'm not even close to considering cancelling my subscription.
As for Bryan, he was close to losing function in his arm a couple months ago and never wrestle again so I'm just happy hes back. He should have had a better elimination but a lot of the eliminations last night where mediocre. Considering he hasn't been wrestling for a while and he's coming off multiple surgeries he may have been lucky to last as long as he did. He had his big Mania last year and I'm sure he will have more in future years, he's just come back after 9 months off so give it some time, let someone else have a moment and build another star and a fuller roster.
I will say the overall booking or the Rumble match itself wasn't great, Bryan was eliminated really oddly with no build and a simple push. That I didn't like but maybe it could lead somewhere or maybe he wasn't 100%, didn't want to take a big bump getting eliminated. Like I said he could have never wrestled again so I'm just happy one of the best wrestlers I've seen is back on my TV.
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Post by MacReady on Jan 26, 2015 10:18:13 GMT -5
The bitching and whining by people like you is the reason I LOVE seeing things like Roman Reigns win.
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Post by King Bálor (CM)™ on Jan 26, 2015 10:21:36 GMT -5
The network already has major issues that have nothing to do with Reigns winning the Rumble. If it continues down its current path, its gonna be gone like the XFL. The only way to HURT WWE and Vince's pockets is to stop going to the events. When Raw's can only fill half a building.....THEN WWE will open its eyes. Right now, all the booing means nothing. Follow the money. Those same people booing week in and week out.....they are the same people goto Raw each week or have PPV streaks, or whatever. WWE will never make the changes fans want until the fans stop coming. Follow the money.
Oh and I think last night served notice to the WWE fans that DB's days of being a legit contender are OVER. Thats why he was eliminated so quickly. He is being sent down the path of Zack Ryder. Stop trying to get over when we, the WWE, dont want you to be. Otherwise, we will sentence you to oblivion.
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Post by Zigzag on Jan 26, 2015 10:31:50 GMT -5
I was there that night. Good stuff.
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Post by ellisd on Jan 26, 2015 10:32:56 GMT -5
The IWC and smarks only seem to be against Reigns since it became public knowledge that WWE was getting behind him in and trying to push him as a main-eventer. They couldn't get enough of him in The Shield and when he first came back and was Superman-punching everyone in site - suddenly, word gets out of WWE's plans and he gets booed out the building and everyone's "I'm not being told who to cheer for!!" and "how dare they push him to the main event!". It seems to be the trouble with the modern/knowledgeable (for want of a better word) wrestling fan... seriously, Reigns was over like Rover until it came out that WWE really wanted to push him and win The Rumble - if it had been back in the day or if none of this had gotten out, then he probably would have been cheered-for in the same vein as Ziggler, Ambrose and Wyatt... If you want to cancel The Network, then go right ahead. The rest of us will just carry on enjoying it. This is very true.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 10:38:28 GMT -5
This is all too funny that people are this pissed. Do you cancel your cable when you don't like an episode of Dexter? Or how about burning down espn when your favorite team loses the big game? It's a freaking wrestling show and crapalways changes. Remember last year when Daniel Bryan won the world title and everyone said how great the wwe was? This is just like any other episodic show on tv. Wait and see how the season plays out.
Stop your Damn crying that your "all time favorite person in the whole wide world forever and ever" didn't "win". Sit back and just try to enjoy the "show". Or if your truly THAT PISSED. Cancel your subscription, never, ever talk about wrestling again, and seek help that you're getting all worked up over a staged fight.
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Jan 26, 2015 10:39:28 GMT -5
The network already has major issues that have nothing to do with Reigns winning the Rumble. If it continues down its current path, its gonna be gone like the XFL. The only way to HURT WWE and Vince's pockets is to stop going to the events. When Raw's can only fill half a building.....THEN WWE will open its eyes. Right now, all the booing means nothing. Follow the money. Those same people booing week in and week out.....they are the same people goto Raw each week or have PPV streaks, or whatever. WWE will never make the changes fans want until the fans stop coming. Follow the money. That's the key thing. They know the people complaining loudest are the ones who are always going to be watching and buying. The only way to change that is if those people stop. I'm pretty sure it was because they (or just Vince, I guess) thought if Bryan went out halfway, the butthurt would die down by the time the match got to its closing stages, and the crowd would be going crazy for Reigns to overcome Kane and Big Show. Otherwise they could have put DB in the actual Ryder spot, as one of the guys who just comes down to get quickly thrown out by Bray.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Jan 26, 2015 10:48:43 GMT -5
I know beforehand we said it would be bad for him to eliminate Daniel Bryan last, but that might have been better. The crowd would have pooped on it regardless, but at the end, we only would have heard the boos during the celebration. Instead, Bryan went out early, the crowd got deflated and crapped on everything.
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Post by johnnyb on Jan 26, 2015 10:51:47 GMT -5
Let's see if you can comprehend this. Yes the fans wanted someone new. However, the fans would like someone that they want to win. You know, common sense. Roman has LOADS of potential but the fans are more invested and care more about Bryan, Ambrose and Ziggle. They are upset because they are being told who to like. There is no crying going on from a lot of us. Some yes, but some are just stating their opinions on the matter and are considered to be crybabies. This if the biggest ing insult. Oh look, the tired "don't like, don't watch" response. How original? I will watch wrestling because I'm a wrestling fan. I may not like the outcomes but there are still a ton of things I enjoy. Even the people who cancel their network, most will still watch because there are a lot of things that they enjoy. Because Roman won, myself and others won't stop watching Seth Rollins (the MVP of last night and 2014 in general). Yes, pro wrestling is a fun hobby, but that doesn't mean we are just supposed to accept everything that happens and be satisfied with it. The incredibly annoying posts, not just by you, but by a lot of people insulting the intelligence of people with valid thoughts and tossing them aside as "angry wrestling fans" or "crybabies" is sickening. Fans have been pining for new stars for years, and the WWE are finally making them and they're crying because it's "the wrong one". Despite the fact that over the past year, Reigns was hot stuff and beloved by the fans, when it became known that the machine was behind him the fans inexplicably turned on him. "cancelwwenetwork" is one of the biggest twitter trends right now. There is unquestionably crying from fans. The "don't like, don't watch" reasoning is perfectly valid. If you find yourself complaining about something more than you enjoying it, why continue? What's the point? If again, the fans deluded themselves with possibilities that were never going to happen, then it's really nobody's fault but their own. It's like the equivalent of expecting Crush to win the 1994 Royal Rumble and throwing a tantrum when he didn't win it, even though it was written in the stars that either Luger or Bret were going to win. Being occasionally dissatisfied and non-stop complaining about EVERY. SINGLE. THING are two completely things entirely. I just popped in to say this is easily the most pigheaded, ignorant perspective on the topic that I've read so far. And that includes the LoP comments section. That's the meanest thing I think I've ever said.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Jan 26, 2015 10:59:20 GMT -5
Ha! Cancel your own subscription, I'm keeping mine. Pretty much this.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 11:00:33 GMT -5
Fans have been pining for new stars for years, and the WWE are finally making them and they're crying because it's "the wrong one". Despite the fact that over the past year, Reigns was hot stuff and beloved by the fans, when it became known that the machine was behind him the fans inexplicably turned on him. "cancelwwenetwork" is one of the biggest twitter trends right now. There is unquestionably crying from fans. The "don't like, don't watch" reasoning is perfectly valid. If you find yourself complaining about something more than you enjoying it, why continue? What's the point? If again, the fans deluded themselves with possibilities that were never going to happen, then it's really nobody's fault but their own. It's like the equivalent of expecting Crush to win the 1994 Royal Rumble and throwing a tantrum when he didn't win it, even though it was written in the stars that either Luger or Bret were going to win. Being occasionally dissatisfied and non-stop complaining about EVERY. SINGLE. THING are two completely things entirely. I just popped in to say this is easily the most pigheaded, ignorant perspective on the topic that I've read so far. And that includes the LoP comments section. That's the meanest thing I think I've ever said. Don't like it? Don't read it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 11:02:44 GMT -5
NXT is reason enough for me to keep my subscription.
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