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Post by facemeat on Feb 3, 2015 14:03:48 GMT -5
Eh this is what happens when the fans direct the show. Daniel Bryan looked like a right arsehole last night, he's supposed to be a face but seemed like a cry baby heel last night when he claimed he should be #1 contender especially after Triple H said about Bryan entering himself in the rumble instead of asking for his re-match. I think it would have been an opportune time to have Orton cost Rollins the match last night setting up a match for fast lane / Mania. Leaving Bryan and Reigns to do their thing. Also the way Ambrose put himself in line for BArretts IC title sucked. they should have cut the Bryan / Regins segment before the main event and had Barrett come out and reject Ambrose's challenge until he proved himself, and actually had some kinda storyline, rather than Dean just taking the job, because apparently no one else wanted to fight for the IC title... stupid.Rusev's handling of the Russian flag botch was awesome though, making the most out of a bunk situation. But...he beat Barrett. That's been enough of a reason to claim a title shot in the past, why not now? I don't really like that Ambrose has been relegated to fighting for the IC title, but it did make sense. |
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Post by RybackV1 on Feb 3, 2015 14:09:53 GMT -5
Yup. Pointless. Just look at Austin in 97, his career went nowhere after that rumble win..
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Post by K5 on Feb 3, 2015 14:33:17 GMT -5
at this point they should just make it a four way, have rollins and bryan be in it. it's been 15 years since the last four way main event.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 14:38:02 GMT -5
I really think Reigns could be a successful heel. Give him the Mic and let him shoot on the fans. He's already getting heat, have him win at Mania, get cashed in on and have Bryan give his sympathy on Raw only to get speared. Reigns could be Batista, but I'm not sure he can be Cena.
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Post by TheXtremisT on Feb 3, 2015 15:53:15 GMT -5
There's no way WWE would do the same thing twice both years WrestleMania XXVIII - John Cena v. The Rock was dubbed "Once in a Lifetime," and had a documentary made about it. WrestleMania XXIX - John Cena v. The Rock threw all of that out the window. To me, once is a very specific amount and lifetime is a very specific length of time. That's not quite the same thing. That was something they shamelessly did to cash in on an opportunity. I'm talking about WWE (Vince), swallowing their pride and admitting they were wrong to the fans and instating Bryan in the main event. Vince is reluctant to do that. He HATES showing weakness and giving in to the fans when he's proven wrong. Whereas Cena vs Rock III, as thee FINAL MATCH? He'd do that in a heartbeat. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 3, 2015 15:57:55 GMT -5
WrestleMania XXVIII - John Cena v. The Rock was dubbed "Once in a Lifetime," and had a documentary made about it. WrestleMania XXIX - John Cena v. The Rock threw all of that out the window. To me, once is a very specific amount and lifetime is a very specific length of time. That's not quite the same thing. That was something they shamelessly did to cash in on an opportunity. I'm talking about WWE (Vince), swallowing their pride and admitting they were wrong to the fans and instating Bryan in the main event. Vince is reluctant to do that. He HATES showing weakness and giving in to the fans when he's proven wrong. Whereas Cena vs Rock III, as thee FINAL MATCH? He'd do that in a heartbeat. I agree. I was just showing that WWE has no problems ignoring things that should be special and rehashing it and giving it to us again. Like I was saying, for the first match, giving it a very specific title like that that more or less means that this can be the only time this happens, then giving it to us again the next year just feels cheap. |
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Post by famdamuxwl on Feb 3, 2015 20:33:00 GMT -5
I can honestly see Daniel Bryan main eventing the next 5 Wrestle Manias. The fans will just keep on hijacking every year. D-Bry in the Main Event 4 LIFE! They may even try to #CancelWWENetwork again if they don't change the name to D-Bry Mania instead of Wrestle Mania
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Feb 3, 2015 20:49:07 GMT -5
They may even try to #CancelWWENetwork again Because that worked out so well the first time. |
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Post by ● kaneisdaman ● on Feb 3, 2015 21:15:28 GMT -5
Again WWE has put themselves in a very awkward predicament. If Bryan was to lose to Roman, the backlash would be even stronger than having Bryan lose in the rumble. Bryan should have never come back for the rumble in this case because all it was going to do was annoy the hell out of people.
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Post by Supreme Cross on Feb 3, 2015 21:42:06 GMT -5
i was wondering why they made this happen. Roman Reigns won the Rumble so he should automatically face Lesnar for the title. But when i watched RAW, The Authority said whoever wins from Rollins vs Bryan faces Reigns at Fast Lane, and then whoever wins that match faces Lesnar. why does Reigns have to defend his "spot" at Mania?
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Post by Fave on Feb 3, 2015 22:05:36 GMT -5
i was wondering why they made this happen. Roman Reigns won the Rumble so he should automatically face Lesnar for the title. But when i watched RAW, The Authority said whoever wins from Rollins vs Bryan faces Reigns at Fast Lane, and then whoever wins that match faces Lesnar. why does Reigns have to defend his "spot" at Mania? Well, kayfabe wise he didn't. They said it was up to him to defend his title shot, he wasn't obligated to do so. So they gave him a "choice" They guilt tripped him into doing so because Bryan technically never lost the belt. Either that or they made him look like he's dumb. The whole thing was a mess really though because as Hunter said Bryan should have asked for a rematch as soon as he returned and not participated in the rumble. Then Rollins asking to be inserted was pretty dumb too. I mean hey i'd love for Rollins to compete for the belt again at Mania but he has the briefcase? So if he wants a match he can just cash in..but whatever. None of it was done to make sense though, apparently. |
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Feb 4, 2015 5:10:58 GMT -5
Eh this is what happens when the fans direct the show. Daniel Bryan looked like a right arsehole last night, he's supposed to be a face but seemed like a cry baby heel last night when he claimed he should be #1 contender especially after Triple H said about Bryan entering himself in the rumble instead of asking for his re-match. I think it would have been an opportune time to have Orton cost Rollins the match last night setting up a match for fast lane / Mania. Leaving Bryan and Reigns to do their thing. Also the way Ambrose put himself in line for BArretts IC title sucked. they should have cut the Bryan / Regins segment before the main event and had Barrett come out and reject Ambrose's challenge until he proved himself, and actually had some kinda storyline, rather than Dean just taking the job, because apparently no one else wanted to fight for the IC title... stupid.Rusev's handling of the Russian flag botch was awesome though, making the most out of a bunk situation. But...he beat Barrett. That's been enough of a reason to claim a title shot in the past, why not now? I don't really like that Ambrose has been relegated to fighting for the IC title, but it did make sense. This was on SmackDown wasnt it? Now I'm going to have to start watching that too '-_- I still think they can add depth to the storyline if barrett comes out with some bad news, and that is that Ambrose isnt getting the title shot Sin Cara is because he beat Barrett first, Sin Cara being the weaker opponent. Barrett keeps avoiding Ambrose until Mania. |
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Post by Supreme Cross on Feb 4, 2015 11:06:28 GMT -5
i was wondering why they made this happen. Roman Reigns won the Rumble so he should automatically face Lesnar for the title. But when i watched RAW, The Authority said whoever wins from Rollins vs Bryan faces Reigns at Fast Lane, and then whoever wins that match faces Lesnar. why does Reigns have to defend his "spot" at Mania? Well, kayfabe wise he didn't. They said it was up to him to defend his title shot, he wasn't obligated to do so. So they gave him a "choice" They guilt tripped him into doing so because Bryan technically never lost the belt. Either that or they made him look like he's dumb. The whole thing was a mess really though because as Hunter said Bryan should have asked for a rematch as soon as he returned and not participated in the rumble. Then Rollins asking to be inserted was pretty dumb too. I mean hey i'd love for Rollins to compete for the belt again at Mania but he has the briefcase? So if he wants a match he can just cash in..but whatever. None of it was done to make sense though, apparently. i missed the opening promo to RAW Monday so thanks for clearing that up for me. i agree with you about the whole Seth Rollins being in the title match cause like you said, he has the briefcase so whats the point? and he has to cash it in before MITB right? thats after Extreme Rules so its pretty close. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 11:18:28 GMT -5
But...he beat Barrett. That's been enough of a reason to claim a title shot in the past, why not now? I don't really like that Ambrose has been relegated to fighting for the IC title, but it did make sense. This was on SmackDown wasnt it? Now I'm going to have to start watching that too '-_- I still think they can add depth to the storyline if barrett comes out with some bad news, and that is that Ambrose isnt getting the title shot Sin Cara is because he beat Barrett first, Sin Cara being the weaker opponent. Barrett keeps avoiding Ambrose until Mania. Nope. Ambrose beat him on Raw. |
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Post by ~ Cymru ~ on Feb 4, 2015 11:57:23 GMT -5
This was on SmackDown wasnt it? Now I'm going to have to start watching that too '-_- I still think they can add depth to the storyline if barrett comes out with some bad news, and that is that Ambrose isnt getting the title shot Sin Cara is because he beat Barrett first, Sin Cara being the weaker opponent. Barrett keeps avoiding Ambrose until Mania. Nope. Ambrose beat him on Raw. Totally missed that match... |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 12:02:12 GMT -5
Nope. Ambrose beat him on Raw. Totally missed that match... It was either the go home show to the rumble or the week before. |
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Post by Next Manufactured’s Sweater on Feb 4, 2015 14:16:12 GMT -5
But...he beat Barrett. That's been enough of a reason to claim a title shot in the past, why not now? I don't really like that Ambrose has been relegated to fighting for the IC title, but it did make sense. This was on SmackDown wasnt it? Now I'm going to have to start watching that too '-_- I still think they can add depth to the storyline if barrett comes out with some bad news, and that is that Ambrose isnt getting the title shot Sin Cara is because he beat Barrett first, Sin Cara being the weaker opponent. Barrett keeps avoiding Ambrose until Mania. Sin Cara had his title shot on SmackDown the week after he beat Barrett. Barrett won. |
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Post by King Richius on Feb 4, 2015 15:20:20 GMT -5
All this talk about Reigns or Bryan vs Brock in the WM main event makes me really miss 1998-2004ish period when there were 6-8 guys who were ready to main event WM. Austin, Rock, Taker, Angle, HHH, Jericho, a young Lesnar, and a returning HBK could have been put in any pair for a main event match that most people would have said "That's a match I want to see."and they could deliver a great match. Today we have Brock (and Batista last year and Rock the year before) who will get an anti-reaction because of part-timer status, Cena/Orton who get the been there done that he's so stale anti-reaction, and Daniel Bryan the only true rising star who seems well positioned to put the butts in the seats. Rollins, Ambrose, Wyatt, Reigns, Ziggler, and others just aren't big enough yet to main event the biggest show of the year. Maybe in a year or two if they are built up properly but not this year.
Vince can push Reigns as hard as possible putting the entire WWE spin doctor team behind him and it won't matter; he just isn't ready to main event WM and a large portion of the fans know this. Reigns needs another year to keep improving his in-ring move set and his promo skills. I really think it would benefit Reigns to not main event WM where he will get crapped on by the crowd. Instead, put him in a high profile mid-card match with an opponent who will make him look good (like Seth Rollins or Cesaro). Then, build him up over the summer to test his main event drawing power by giving him a shot in the main event at SummerSlam. If he can pull it off, then you continue to slow burn him until he main events WM next year.
Bryan has to come out on top at Fastlane to setup Lesnar vs Bryan. That is the only main event that really is "best for business" this year.
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Feb 4, 2015 15:23:06 GMT -5
I don't see how you do Reigns versus Lesnar.
Brock needs to beat up guys. Are you going to have Reigns beat him in 30 seconds? Where's the match there? You can't put two monsters together and keep them both strong.
Bryan vs Lesnar is much more appetizing.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Feb 4, 2015 16:22:23 GMT -5
I'm not usually one for messing with tradition but I think this one needs to go. The Royal Rumble forces WWE to book themselves into a corner. Of the [usually] 30 competitors, it's obvious that at least 25 have zero chance of winning. So why are they even out there? It's the only modern form of a squash match that people still find acceptable. They need to make it the platform for pushing be people, like the Kind of the Ring was used for with Austin, HHH and Mankind (that was an amazing feud), etc.
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