billthomson1984
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Post by billthomson1984 on Aug 4, 2015 0:37:33 GMT -5
I would be down for any new face tbh, I am even open to buying Cliff, Hawkins and Gallows
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TheBadGuyChico
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 4, 2015 8:17:01 GMT -5
The only disappointment i have with this legends line right now, is that it doesn't appear to be a true legends line like the original Jakks Classic series.
If attires and headsculpts are going to have a foot in the present, that sort of ruins the point of a classic line. I'd like to capture a moment or an era in time, that's why i collected Jakks CS series in the first place. I just hope the legends line turns out to be more than something older guys can sell at shows/conventions that looks like them at the moment. I would have loved an ECW Meanie or even WWF Meanie.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 11:16:42 GMT -5
The only disappointment i have with this legends line right now, is that it doesn't appear to be a true legends line like the original Jakks Classic series. If attires and headsculpts are going to have a foot in the present, that sort of ruins the point of a classic line. I'd like to capture a moment or an era in time, that's why i collected Jakks CS series in the first place. I just hope the legends line turns out to be more than something older guys can sell at shows/conventions that looks like them at the moment. I would have loved an ECW Meanie or even WWF Meanie. I've stated all this info before, but can understand if some people haven't caught up to it. Meanie asked for this look. I don't feel it takes away from the look of who/what the Blue Meanie should be. Cornette chose a Midnight Express era look. Whipwreck will be the underdog as opposed to Tajiri/Minister era Mikey. You have to remember that we're doing stars, not eras. If we made a PJ Walker 1993 enhancement star figure and said it was Justin Credible, I could see some concern. Meanie having a beard, which he's had as part of the Meanie character, doesn't hurt the figure or the likeness. Again, it's just a matter of opinion.
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Post by tvmakesyougod on Aug 4, 2015 11:27:14 GMT -5
The only disappointment i have with this legends line right now, is that it doesn't appear to be a true legends line like the original Jakks Classic series. If attires and headsculpts are going to have a foot in the present, that sort of ruins the point of a classic line. I'd like to capture a moment or an era in time, that's why i collected Jakks CS series in the first place. I just hope the legends line turns out to be more than something older guys can sell at shows/conventions that looks like them at the moment. I would have loved an ECW Meanie or even WWF Meanie. I've stated all this info before, but can understand if some people haven't caught up to it. Meanie asked for this look. I don't feel it takes away from the look of who/what the Blue Meanie should be. Cornette chose a Midnight Express era look. Whipwreck will be the underdog as opposed to Tajiri/Minister era Mikey. You have to remember that we're doing stars, not eras. If we made a PJ Walker 1993 enhancement star figure and said it was Justin Credible, I could see some concern. Meanie having a beard, which he's had as part of the Meanie character, doesn't hurt the figure or the likeness. Again, it's just a matter of opinion. Awesome news about Whipwreck, as that's the look I want! Are you still shooting for these to be released by the end of the year or is that unrealistic?
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Post by The Assassin on Aug 4, 2015 12:01:53 GMT -5
Personally I don't mind my Legends figures being a little bit of mash-up of eras - as long as the chosen features are all accurate to their career (i.e. not just a mistake caused by poor research) and the combining of the features doesn't leave the final figure looking drastically different to their usual or best remembered classic look.
For example, if they did an Alex Wright figure in trunks with leather jacket (taken from his mid-90s look when he had short hair), but made the head bald (taken from his 2000 look when he wore tights) I would NOT be OK with that. Although the character is essentially the same, the two looks are way too different to combine into a recogniseable figure.
But I'm sure FTC understands that there is a line anyway.
I agree that giving meanie a slightly fuller beard isn't a drastic change and I wouldn't have even noticed if it hadn't been pointed out. However I can certainly understand that some people prefer their figures to be accurate to a specific era, attire or even one certain match.
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Post by TheBadGuyChico on Aug 4, 2015 12:32:11 GMT -5
I do get that it still applies to the character, and is completely distinguishable to that wrestler. I just like my figures to fit an era, like the Jakks Classic line. The only downside to something like Meanie's sculpt, is where does he fit in a collection specifically? Ecw Meanie only had the full chin beard WWF Meanie had almost no facial hair and even WWE Meanie only had a chin beard I'm ecstatic to here that Cornette will be in his Midnight Express era attire, that made my day. I just don't understand when some of these legends have looks that they've only donned in the indies.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 12:42:44 GMT -5
I do get that it still applies to the character, and is completely distinguishable to that wrestler. I just like my figures to fit an era, like the Jakks Classic line. The only downside to something like Meanie's sculpt, is where does he fit in a collection specifically? Ecw Meanie only had the full chin beard WWF Meanie had almost no facial hair and even WWE Meanie only had a chin beard I'm ecstatic to here that Cornette will be in his Midnight Express era attire, that made my day. I just don't understand when some of these legends have looks that they've only donned in the indies. In your collection plug Meanie in right beside bWo Stevie and be done with it. Just enjoy that we are getting an RA one period. While I admire the dedication and thought and commitment that a lot of y'all put into your collections, I feel like waaaaay to many on here take every tiny little detail way to seriously. Just enjoy the fact that we are getting him period, and Cornette, and ROH stars and whatever other legends we get. They may have their flaws, but they will fit into the already flawed Jakks RA line Doesn't mean they aren't great figures Just my opinion, sorry for the rant
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Post by A Flair for the Gold on Aug 4, 2015 12:53:59 GMT -5
new jack is not a legend!
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Post by Mr. #1derful 🇵🇸 on Aug 4, 2015 13:00:17 GMT -5
^He's a piece of work, but his shoot interviews are the stuff of legend. I'm just hyped for a cheese grater and maybe a staple gun.
Meanie looks awesome so far.
I wonder what shirt design he'll have. In his WWF run, he had a shirt made with a with this sweet airbrushed illustration of him coming out of a magic lamp. I forget if Goldust was rubbing the lamp, lol.
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Aug 4, 2015 13:22:04 GMT -5
Glad I'm not the only one upset with the Meanie mashup. It just won't fit on my ECW or WWF Attitude shelves the way it was designed.
I was just under the impression this line was going to be for hardcore collectors (like me) to fill holes in the Jakks line, which this figure obviously will not. Ftchris, just because you don't see a problem with it doesn't mean this community will not.
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Post by The Assassin on Aug 4, 2015 13:27:08 GMT -5
new jack is not a legend! The way I look at it, the terms "Legend" or "Classic" in figure lines just mean non-current. People will always have differing opinions as to whether someone is "deserving" or not to be in the line or whether they are too recent, etc - these kind of arguements have been going on since the days of Jakks' Classic line and there will never be a definitive consensus. But the simple fact is if FTC think enough demand is there to make a profit from someone, then that's really the only qualification needed for them to consider trying to sign them. And that approach makes complete sense. Personally I don't want New Jack as I wasn't much of an ECW fan so am not really familiar with him. But I will never have any objections to anyone who hasn't had a figure before being made in the line. The only thing I might object to is if FTC seems like they're focusing too heavily on one particular era of stars, or one particular promotion. Like series 1 is all ECW guys plus one 80s guy. Which is fine and again I have no objections to those guys getting figures. But I'd want to see some WCW/nWo era stars mixed in too as the line goes forward into series 2 and beyond. And some non-ECW 90s guys too. But it's early days, I'm sure FTC will cover plenty of eras and promotions.
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Aug 4, 2015 13:30:52 GMT -5
Also, very excited about the Cornette - he'll go nicely on my WCCW & NWA shelves. Also he'll be a simple custom part swap to make a Camp Cornette for my WWF New Gen shelf. Removing Meanies dumb idea beard is not a simple thing to do to make a corrected figure.
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Post by The Assassin on Aug 4, 2015 13:46:30 GMT -5
@ftchris - I'm 99% certain I already know the answer to this but just to confirm - FTC doesn't have access to the Jim Cornette head developed by Jakks for the (cancelled) Legends Of The Ring Series 2 figure do you?
I'm sure the answer will be no but just curious if licensing/purchasing parts from Jakks could potentially include head molds they have previously made but never used. Obviously the talents would still need to be re-licensed.
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Post by Tyler Black on Aug 4, 2015 13:58:09 GMT -5
God some of you guys are a piece of work. THE BLUE MEANIE ASKED FOR HIS FIGURE TO LOOK LIKE THAT that's not a FTC issue, that was a personal decision made by the guy who's likeness is being used for how he wanted his figure to look. And it's the first series! The jakks Classic line barely even touched ECW superstars. I'm sure as the series goes on they will branch out to the missed 80s and WCW/WWF Stars. This is to fill the gaps in your collection
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Post by Classic Collector: The Return on Aug 4, 2015 13:59:26 GMT -5
Ftchris as a accessory could you possibly include a extra head to swap in & out on Meanie ? Or for Whipwreck (underdog & sinister) or Cornette (young & old). These guys will only ever get 1 figure why not be able to have multiple versions.
Just spit balling
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2015 15:27:18 GMT -5
The Cornette is a new design. It is NOT the unreleased figure repackaged. All FTC figures are new designs.
Including multiple heads for swapping is not something we're pursuing. Our sculptor has already done almost 30 sculpts for these 3 lines. Having him do multiple sculpts for one talent is counter productive to trying to get all the new stars done in a timely fashion. It's not cost effective to do so either.
I say this civily, but know it may sound direct: People need to see this is an action figure line. This is not meant to satisfy a customizer who wants to take it apart and make an Elite figure. We're not selling these for parts. We're looking to produce figures. I understand some people here are collectors and customizers, and that's fine. This is simply a new wave of action figures to build upon a previous style. It's also, in my humble opinion, the most talent friendly line as far as input goes. The final result is not up just to us, but also the star that is becoming a figure. The decisions on what era to pull from is not a sole FTC decision. I apologize if a certain look doesn't fit ones collection needs, but again, that's an individual matter. The big picture, for all of us, be it manufacturer, talent, or collector, is that we're all getting something that no one else has really considered doing in the past, and it might be your only chance to see some of these talents in figure form. We're doing what we can as a company, we're doing what we can for the talent, and we're hoping to satisfy fans old and new.
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Post by Ruby Fusion on Aug 4, 2015 16:13:39 GMT -5
If people keep mentioning these JAKKS figs I WILL lock this topic!!! FTC AIN'T JAKKS! Also: Blue Meanie HIMSELF asked for this sculpt! FTC let's the talents decide. Don't like it, then don't buy it when he gets released!!!
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Post by Sizzle on Aug 4, 2015 16:38:45 GMT -5
I do get that it still applies to the character, and is completely distinguishable to that wrestler. I just like my figures to fit an era, like the Jakks Classic line. The only downside to something like Meanie's sculpt, is where does he fit in a collection specifically? Ecw Meanie only had the full chin beard WWF Meanie had almost no facial hair and even WWE Meanie only had a chin beard I'm ecstatic to here that Cornette will be in his Midnight Express era attire, that made my day. I just don't understand when some of these legends have looks that they've only donned in the indies. But the line isnt like a flashback line for specific attires, its of wrestling legends, which Blue Meanie is.
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