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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 0:35:27 GMT -5
This is just pointless. He's already established and is really cool to watch in the ring. Why not just keep him in the mask?
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Post by Joe/Smurf on Feb 4, 2015 0:49:28 GMT -5
If you want to have a gay character on your show why not use the gay who is actually gay? But please for the love of God don't give him the albatross of stereotypes and heeldom. Darren Young should be used as a role model face character who just happens to be gay.
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Post by facemeat on Feb 4, 2015 0:51:14 GMT -5
They're partners with GLAAD, aren't they?
I don't see this happening under any circumstances.
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Post by LostHawk05 on Feb 4, 2015 0:58:44 GMT -5
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Post by slappy on Feb 4, 2015 1:01:47 GMT -5
It wouldn't hurt to have a gay character even if the guy playing it isn't gay (or at least not open about it).
I'll save everyone the speech about why a gay wrestler is needed.
But while some may take offense to stereotypes, there are people who fit them.
Playing up stereotypes on a gay character doesn't have to be a bad thing. As long as they aren't made to seem lesser because of it. So they can be the stereotypical lisp having, flamboyant gay guy. There is nothing wrong with that because saying so would be implying those that are actually like that are bad. It's if they make those things out to be bad or wrong or if they have a wrestler mock those things and not get their comeuppance.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 1:07:12 GMT -5
Just have Titus and Darren team back up and have Darren as this guy who just happens to be gay. It'd give both guys something to do and would you know, actually be a good role model than just being a sterotype.
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Post by Planktung on Feb 4, 2015 1:11:04 GMT -5
It wouldn't hurt to have a gay character even if the guy playing it isn't gay (or at least not open about it). I'll save everyone the speech about why a gay wrestler is needed. But while some may take offense to stereotypes, there are people who fit them. Playing up stereotypes on a gay character doesn't have to be a bad thing. As long as they aren't made to seem lesser because of it. So they can be the stereotypical lisp having, flamboyant gay guy. There is nothing wrong with that because saying so would be implying those that are actually like that are bad. It's if they make those things out to be bad or wrong or if they have a wrestler mock those things and not get their comeuppance. It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a gay character and I would like to see it, but I just feel that Kalisto isn't the right person for it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't envision him being in that role. It's much easier to just have Darren Young do it. Along with him actually being gay, he has a good look and can be portrayed as an ass-kicker who just happens to be gay.
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Post by slappy on Feb 4, 2015 1:15:42 GMT -5
It wouldn't hurt to have a gay character even if the guy playing it isn't gay (or at least not open about it). I'll save everyone the speech about why a gay wrestler is needed. But while some may take offense to stereotypes, there are people who fit them. Playing up stereotypes on a gay character doesn't have to be a bad thing. As long as they aren't made to seem lesser because of it. So they can be the stereotypical lisp having, flamboyant gay guy. There is nothing wrong with that because saying so would be implying those that are actually like that are bad. It's if they make those things out to be bad or wrong or if they have a wrestler mock those things and not get their comeuppance. It certainly wouldn't hurt to have a gay character and I would like to see it, but I just feel that Kalisto isn't the right person for it. Maybe I'm wrong, but I can't envision him being in that role. It's much easier to just have Darren Young do it. Along with him actually being gay, he has a good look and can be portrayed as an ass-kicker who just happens to be gay. Maybe they want to have another gay character so they have someone to pair with Darren. But I'm not sure if Kalisto is the right person either. Have to wait and see on that. But they should probably be aiming to make him the next Mysterio.
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Post by King Silva on Feb 4, 2015 1:49:55 GMT -5
This can't be real...
If for some reason it is, he should have just done a sh*t job at the character so they could go back to reality and try to make him the new Rey Mysterio not a 2015 Rico (who no one wanted to see again)..
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 4, 2015 2:02:39 GMT -5
So apparently I was 100% right about WWE giving NXT guys career killer gimmicks. I don't see this working at all. If they give Finn Balor a stupid gimmick then I don't think I'll want to work for the WWE.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 2:07:25 GMT -5
* waits for the debut of a crazy dentist, a garbage man, a hockey goon, a French Canadian pirate... *
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Post by A-Rob on Feb 4, 2015 2:08:17 GMT -5
We don't need another Rico....
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Post by slappy on Feb 4, 2015 2:12:57 GMT -5
This can't be real... If for some reason it is, he should have just done a sh*t job at the character so they could go back to reality and try to make him the new Rey Mysterio not a 2015 Rico (who no one wanted to see again).. Then they fire him because he couldn't do what they wanted.
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Post by King Silva on Feb 4, 2015 2:16:23 GMT -5
This can't be real... If for some reason it is, he should have just done a sh*t job at the character so they could go back to reality and try to make him the new Rey Mysterio not a 2015 Rico (who no one wanted to see again).. Then they fire him because he couldn't do what they wanted. I doubt that but I'm sure they would be mad. HHH needs to talk some sense into Vince because Vince is ing with his NXT guys..
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Post by Wato Stan Account on Feb 4, 2015 2:29:34 GMT -5
I think until WWE can figure out how to naturally make a gay character work, don't do it. I'll admit I laughed when I read this because, why not? It's really, really stupid. But can you picture WWE writing a gay love interest angle the same way they try with wrestlers/divas? I can't. Hell I don't even take their male/female angles that seriously because the dialog, even with married talent, comes off so unnaturally.
Also has anyone thought that maybe WWE doesn't push Darren as a gay character because he doesn't want to be one? Because then he would get over for his sexuality and the media's focus on it, not because he's good at his job? It shouldn't be that, but you know WWE would find a way to slide "...along with our positive portrayal of LGBT characters" in a Be A Star ad.
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Post by Falconsinclair on Feb 4, 2015 2:30:50 GMT -5
This makes ZERO Sense the WWE has been desperate to "Make" the next Rey Mysterio. Kalisto has a growing following and barring any huge mistakes (ala the Original Sin Cara) Kalisto could possibly be that guy.
I honestly can't see Vince wanting to drop the ball on Kalisto mask sales when that character finally moves to the main roster.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 3:08:59 GMT -5
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Post by rustyy on Feb 4, 2015 3:09:06 GMT -5
I find it shocking people would doubt this is real. Have you guys been watching the last like 10 years? It's not about who makes money, or who the fans like. No WCW/competition, it becomes Vince's playground to do as he pleases, 1980's out of date wrestling "entertainment" This and the image in my sig sum up WWE since WCW folded.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Feb 4, 2015 4:01:23 GMT -5
Why can't Vince just admit that he is jealous of NXT, that he is to stupid to make a show as good as NXT and that he obviously out of touch ?
I can life with Adrian Neville having a Mighty Mouse Gimmick(Little Guy that is Strong) but this ?! Seriously ?
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Post by Duck Holliday on Feb 4, 2015 4:36:46 GMT -5
nice... So can you take me to a tv taping? We'll see? Don't think it will happen though.
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