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Post by slappy on Feb 4, 2015 4:58:21 GMT -5
nice... So can you take me to a tv taping? Have you finished your vegetables?
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Post by Duck Holliday on Feb 4, 2015 5:09:30 GMT -5
nice... So can you take me to a tv taping? Have you finished your vegetables? if this were banter I'd turn this into a huge savory gay joke. I would, but I only have broccoli... And you know how gassy that makes me.
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Post by AJ F'n Brooks on Feb 4, 2015 6:20:59 GMT -5
WTF?! Kalisto is fine the way he is right now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 7:46:49 GMT -5
Sees report, instantly thought of Tyler Breeze.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 7:59:14 GMT -5
Why doesn't Darren Young get the gay gimmick? It wouldn't be a gimmick lol.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Feb 4, 2015 8:33:09 GMT -5
I smell bullshit.
Kalisto is marketable being a luchador. Right off the bat you have a piece of merch to sell: A mask. Hopefully it doesn't lead to a t-shirt with a hard on.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 8:40:29 GMT -5
Hey look, Vince is setting money on fire!
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Post by 500DaysofNight on Feb 4, 2015 8:52:13 GMT -5
Everyone needs to hold on a second and go back and read the article again. They said he did a good job trying the character out... so if they're actually wanting to give up the Kalisto character for that, then he must've seriously done a killer job with it.
I have no problem with this personally as I can see it working if they do it right. Don't get me wrong though, the Kalisto character should be brought up as he's great but if he's better at this character then why not let him try it? I guess this all makes sense though since Sin Cara is back on the main roster and is actually winning matches. Maybe they're reconsidering the thought of Sin Cara being a flop since Hunico has taken it over and done a fantastic job.
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Post by MADNESS_NH_97 on Feb 4, 2015 8:52:30 GMT -5
Hey look, Vince is setting money on fire! They could make twice as much Money with the Lucha Dragons as with Rey Mysterio alone. But they are a NXT Tag Team with automatically makes them worthless for Vince
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Post by johnnyb on Feb 4, 2015 8:57:36 GMT -5
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Post by Chip on Feb 4, 2015 9:31:58 GMT -5
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 4, 2015 9:37:30 GMT -5
Hey look, Vince is setting money on fire! They could make twice as much Money with the Lucha Dragons as with Rey Mysterio alone. But they are a NXT Tag Team with automatically makes them worthless for Vince Robert Kirkman in Walking Dead presented a gay character the way a gay character should be presented imo. He introduced him, made him ing awesome, and had him do all these badass missions and fight panels, and then casually showed us a peak into his private life, wherein we figure out the character is gay. It wasn't about the character being gay, he wasn't defined by his sexuality, and it broke away any opportunity for the reader to have a preconceived idea of who that character was before we really got to know his character. As a straight male, I have absolutely no issue, whatsoever, saying this character is my favorite in the entire Walking Dead universe. WWE should put this to practice. Not a stereotype, not a comic relief wrestler, but they should introduce a guy, make him bad ing ass and then casually reference the character as gay. I honestly think Baron Corbin is the type of guy this kind of thing would work perfectly for if WWE wants to represent the gay community on WWE TV. No he's not gay, to my knowledge, but his sexuality is so insignificant to his character that it wouldn't matter if he was gay or straight or whatever. This is where Vince being 70 and out of touch really embarrasses the product imo. He's from a different time. So where he thinks these stereotype characters are funny, most of his viewing audience finds them to be passé. Millennials, as comical is that is, don't see in color, they don't live in a world where barriers exist the same way they did when HHH was coming into prominence in the 90s and kissing Shawn Michaels on live TV was seen as provocative. Vince isn't ever going to get that and therefore he shouldn't be behind designing or architecting what a gay character should be in 2015, imo. I agree with the Darren Young sentiment, but the guy isn't very good. I would be in favor of putting together the PTPs again though. The tag division needs them and I think they were hilarious. Kalisto is an incredibly flashy performer. If he's hiding an ocean of personality under that mask, they should wait to use it. Introduce him, let him wow the audience for a couple of years and then when the time is right, let someone take the mask off of him. At which point, he can start a new phase of his career. This is something WCW did with Rey that was far better than anything WWE did with him, which was send him out there like a robot to hit the 619 until his knees fell off his body.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 4, 2015 9:43:30 GMT -5
Good luck with that.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 4, 2015 10:17:33 GMT -5
Like a lot of you, I'm not at all against a gay character being brought in, as long as he's not turned into a joke. However, with Kalisto I strongly believe that they should use him to take over the Hispanic demographic since Rey Mysterio is gone. He can be what the original Sin Cara failed to be.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 10:27:31 GMT -5
It's funny because there is no chance of that happening.
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Post by marino13 on Feb 4, 2015 10:37:40 GMT -5
Isn't the whole point of replacing Rey to bring in someone who will supplement his merchandise sales? Kalisto as a masked wrestler could possible do just that. As a gay hairstylist, I doubt he will.
I do think WWE should reunite the PTP and openly acknowledge Darren being gay. Don't treat him any different but just don't ignore it either.
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Post by WWE Common Terry on Feb 4, 2015 10:57:33 GMT -5
Isn't he like 3 feet tall? He'd need a step ladder to cut anyone's hair.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 11:00:06 GMT -5
What does he look like without a mask on?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2015 11:06:19 GMT -5
I hope he's the Miz's hairstylist.
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Post by J12 on Feb 4, 2015 11:23:39 GMT -5
I just don't see any purpose in splitting the Lucha Dragons, honestly. They're a solid tag team that could potentially do well on the main roster. They'd likely have far more success that way than either of them ever would as a singles competitor. Plus, you can never have enough legitimate tag teams.
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