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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 11:32:20 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing a racist attitude into the discussion. This entire thread is subtly racist. In what way? I haven't seen anyone here being racist until you made that comment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 12:18:12 GMT -5
So because of the way something is released, it makes it a great album? To hell with creativity and talent. Not at all, but it obviously had the impact it did because of the quality of it, the fact it still gets radio spins to this day. Beck can play a guitar, great. Is he as good of an entertainer like Beyoncé? How can you say to hell with creativity when its creativity in its highest form, every song had a video? How is that not creativity? There's a huge difference. Beyonce's creativity isn't her own. She has over a dozen people writing her songs and coming up with video ideas. That's the point people are trying to make. Everything Beck does is all from him. Beyonce, if you take away the dozens of people writing her songs, would not be as big as she is today. Edit: I'm not saying she'd be bad by any means, hell her songs might actually be worth listening to. The people around her write specifically for radio, so every song can be a top 40 hit. It's smart marketing but it's not creative.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 13:16:07 GMT -5
theMOESIAH There's still plenty of good music out there. But unfortunately the music scene is ing DOMINATED by talentless hacks. One Direction, Justin Bieber, Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna, Sam Smith. It's all the same shit. I always found it funny hearing Trey Parker saying that he had to learn how to be able to not sing to be able to replicate Kanye's sound for the Fishsticks episode of South Park. The Autotune only works if you don't sing in key and Trey had professional training for years.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 13:24:04 GMT -5
theMOESIAH There's still plenty of good music out there. But unfortunately the music scene is ing DOMINATED by talentless hacks. One Direction, Justin Bieber, Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna, Sam Smith. It's all the same crap. I always found it funny hearing Trey Parker saying that he had to learn how to be able to not sing to be able to replicate Kanye's sound for the Fishsticks episode of South Park. The Autotune only works if you don't sing in key and Trey had professional training for years. Trey is a surprisingly incredibly talented dude. I also heard that he basically had to forget his training in order to do it, and found that hilarious. There's a ton of great music out today, and occasionally, a top-40 hit might find me enjoying it. You just gotta know where to look for it, which in and of itself is sad that we need to dig through the crap to find something good.
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Post by JC Motors on Feb 12, 2015 13:27:58 GMT -5
These 2 images sum everything up
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Post by 👑🇵🇭⭐️ on Feb 12, 2015 13:30:58 GMT -5
When it comes down to it, I like Kanye West better than Beck. I know more Kanye West songs than Beck songs. In fact, I only know of one Beck song, maybe another that he was a guest on or something. It’s just a preference. That certainly doesn’t mean Beck didn’t deserve to win.
I believe Kanye West is just playing the role of a Heel. I like Darth Vader and the Sith more than Luke Skywalker and the Jedi. I like Cobra, specifically Desto and his Iron Grenadiers, more than G. I. Joe. I like the Decepticons more than the Autobots. I like Chris Jericho, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Ric Flair and Hollywood Hulk Hogan, all as Heels more than as Faces.
Just like the New England Patriots, San Francisco Giants, San Antonio Spurs, and the Los Angeles Kings, I don’t give a $#!+ who won the Championship / award, especially since it didn’t involve any Philadelphia sports teams, and in the case of the Grammy, it didn’t involve any artist I like.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 13:32:31 GMT -5
theMOESIAH There's still plenty of good music out there. But unfortunately the music scene is ing DOMINATED by talentless hacks. One Direction, Justin Bieber, Beyonce, Britney, Rihanna, Sam Smith. It's all the same crap. I always found it funny hearing Trey Parker saying that he had to learn how to be able to not sing to be able to replicate Kanye's sound for the Fishsticks episode of South Park. The Autotune only works if you don't sing in key and Trey had professional training for years. Trey is a surprisingly incredibly talented dude. I also heard that he basically had to forget his training in order to do it, and found that hilarious. There's a ton of great music out today, and occasionally, a top-40 hit might find me enjoying it. You just gotta know where to look for it, which in and of itself is sad that we need to dig through the crap to find something good. Yeah, I love Trey. He's hilarious in his live-action films, hilarious in South Park and his songs are awesome. I like all kinds of music, I often find just randomly clicking on youtube videos will let me find new artists (or at least songs) that I like. In the last few days I found myself listening to Avril Lavigne's new song and I found that Christina Perri Thousand Years song which aren't my usual thing, but they're both good tracks, especially the latter.
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Post by Lord Ragnarok on Feb 12, 2015 13:36:30 GMT -5
I prefer both Beyonce's and Kanye's music over Blech's all day, but Kanye really forces it with his attention seeking behavior.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 14:23:05 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing a racist attitude into the discussion. This entire thread is subtly racist. In what way has anything said here been racist? Jeeze. Quit crying racism over something that doesn't have it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 14:51:45 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 14:54:49 GMT -5
I don't want to play the "my artist is better than yours" game. If I did,I'd say "The Pale Emperor" should have been added to the nominations and won even though it was past the cutoff date.
Lol
Anyways, no need to get angry over something so trivial, but Kanye is wrong; regardless if you like Beck or not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2015 14:59:07 GMT -5
I'll also add, ALL media and entertainment is subjective. There is never a right or wrong answer. Even if you don't like Justin Beiber, and I don't, that doesn't mean he's terrible or anything. You just have different tastes. In this instance, Kanye just sounds like an Eltist music critic lol
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Post by The Mask of Truth on Feb 12, 2015 17:18:45 GMT -5
Not at all, but it obviously had the impact it did because of the quality of it, the fact it still gets radio spins to this day. Beck can play a guitar, great. Is he as good of an entertainer like Beyoncé? How can you say to hell with creativity when its creativity in its highest form, every song had a video? How is that not creativity? It had the "impact" it did because they spent millions upon millions of dollars marketing it to gullible fools who frankly don't know any better. Why do you think Justin Bieber and One Direction sell so much? Beyonce is no different, it's a completely manufactured process, there's no heart, no soul, no creativity in anything that she releases. She is why the entire music industry is on its head. It's not "Beck can play a guitar". Beck can create things that no one else has heard of before. His music is haunting, deep and will make you think. He'll do as much of the process as he can himself because he's a musician. Beyonce will sing music that other people create because she's a performer. She's only where she is because she has a pretty face, there are millions of people who can do what she does (and do do what she does, see: Britney, Katy Perry, Rihanna, Ariana Grande, Spice Girls etc etc). The contributions she made to her album were minimal, and even then the "creative" people that she surrounds herself with are god awful. Her music is literally noise, there's no meaning behind it at all. I'm honest to god surprised that Beck won the award, for the reason being that his work is actually good. Excellent post, someone give this guy a million likes.
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Post by TheLastDude on Feb 13, 2015 2:23:06 GMT -5
When it comes down to it, I like Kanye West better than Beck. I know more Kanye West songs than Beck songs. In fact, I only know of one Beck song, maybe another that he was a guest on or something. It’s just a preference. That certainly doesn’t mean Beck didn’t deserve to win. I believe Kanye West is just playing the role of a Heel. I like Darth Vader and the Sith more than Luke Skywalker and the Jedi. I like Cobra, specifically Desto and his Iron Grenadiers, more than G. I. Joe. I like the Decepticons more than the Autobots. I like Chris Jericho, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, Kurt Angle, Ric Flair and Hollywood Hulk Hogan, all as Heels more than as Faces. Just like the New England Patriots, San Francisco Giants, San Antonio Spurs, and the Los Angeles Kings, I don’t give a $#!+ who won the Championship / award, especially since it didn’t involve any Philadelphia sports teams, and in the case of the Grammy, it didn’t involve any artist I like.
Damn, were you rooting for the hunter to get Bambi's mother too?
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Post by POOR-ly Cuyler on Feb 13, 2015 3:18:54 GMT -5
"5 albums over 100 songs, and you aint got no f***in Yeezy? Bet you got some J-Kwon tho..."
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 6:19:12 GMT -5
I don't mind that Kanye West doesn't agree with Beck winning, but the whole walking up to the stage and kinda ruining his moment is what pisses me off. And kudos to Beck for staying classy and modest the same way Taylor Swift did, because I know if I won that award and some ass clown ruined my moment I'd be livid.
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Post by 3Lephant (Naptown Icon) on Feb 13, 2015 7:50:04 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing a racist attitude into the discussion. This entire thread is subtly racist. Thanks to Kanye West. If it wasn't for his generous disdain for white people's music, this thread wouldn't have been made! (I don't feel as though I should have to clarify, but this is a joke)
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Post by punksnotdead on Feb 13, 2015 15:49:55 GMT -5
Anyone see Jericho's IG post today? ing priceless haha.
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Post by attitudesback on Feb 13, 2015 16:46:13 GMT -5
Yeah cause using biased "comparison charts" really means to anyone smh you can't play all high and mighty and continue to completely discredit someone's achievements in the process
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2015 19:05:59 GMT -5
Yeah cause using biased "comparison charts" really means to anyone smh you can't play all high and mighty and continue to completely discredit someone's achievements in the process Kanye did.
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