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Post by Mox on Feb 17, 2015 1:51:23 GMT -5
So everyone's going to no sell my Uncle Elmer post and just act like Big Show, Kane and a boatload of hot Divas are worse? Uncle Elmer is the top contender for worst wrestler, you'd have to bring up someone like the Yeti and that was Reese I think, who was much better than Uncle Elmer. Uncle Elmer is King of the Bottom of the Mountain. He's way worse than Zeus, than Jackie Gayda. Give me someone worse. Hacksaw Jim Duggan was stellar in comparison. Lol this kills me. Too funny.
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Post by Rattlehead on Feb 17, 2015 1:55:21 GMT -5
Alicia Fox is amazing in the ring! Sure she looks lanky running around the ropes but her moves are better than most divas that are holding that title today. Not really stating my thoughts on the worst wrestler but to defend Fox, she is definitely not the worst and very underrated for sure.
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Post by Word™ on Feb 17, 2015 2:02:20 GMT -5
The Big Show. Let's be honest, more than half of his career has been hard to watch.. And if you don't think about changing the channel when he comes on your TV, you're lying. Hell no. The Big Show is insanely underrated on these boards. Yes his character has had close to no direction but a guy his size shouldn't be able to do the things he does. I mean even tonight he had a good match with Bryan. He tends to be given close to no direction and still and ends up making it work. Just because he's booked into the ground doesn't make him the worst wrestler ever. Not by a long shot. I might even put him in my top 30 ever. PS Being entertaining half of your 15+ career ain't too shabby. To each their own.. But I haven't seen The Big Show try since 2002.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 2:28:38 GMT -5
The Great Khali by a mile. He does seem to try though..
Worst diva goes to Alicia Fox. Yes, she has improved tremendously, but I've seen her 'wrestle' a match doing twirl-a-whirl backbreakers after backbreakers the entire match.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2015 4:09:51 GMT -5
The Great Khali by a mile. He does seem to try though.. Worst diva goes to Alicia Fox. Yes, she has improved tremendously, but I've seen her 'wrestle' a match doing twirl-a-whirl backbreakers after backbreakers the entire match. Cameron forgot how to pin. I'd say she's worse.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 21, 2015 2:52:40 GMT -5
The Great Khali by a mile. He does seem to try though.. Worst diva goes to Alicia Fox. Yes, she has improved tremendously, but I've seen her 'wrestle' a match doing twirl-a-whirl backbreakers after backbreakers the entire match. Cameron forgot how to pin. I'd say she's worse. There aren't that many role models in wrestling for a young African American woman, so she's just drawing inspiration from 'The Ugandan Giant' Kamala. We shouldn't all be so quick to judge, often there is much more than meets the eye with this kind of highly trained professional, and very special attention is needed to pick up on these things, my friend, like 3D glasses, but without the 3D or the glasses. Cameron shows her respect for the pantheon of grapplers who came before her in each and every performance. A lot of her 'botches' are Ahmed Johnson tributes. She awaits an audience with the taste to appreciate it, for now I clap alone ... inside this pit of danger.
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Post by johnnyb on Feb 21, 2015 3:47:49 GMT -5
It's gotta be Giant Gonzales, Giant Silva of the Great Khali.
I would like to add, however, that among wrestlers who have main evented more than like, 10 PPVs, it's easily John Cena.
"Honorable" mentions: New Jack, George Steele, Kurgann
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 8:34:04 GMT -5
Honestly, I kind of like the guy, but surely Titus O'Neil is the worst.
He's so clumsy and unpolished, he looks awkward delivering and taking moves. He's got a good look and a solid enough gimmick, but he is pure awful in the ring.
Obviously Eva Marie is in there.
Nathan Whatshisname from WM19 was crap. Heidenreich, Khali, let's not forget the legend Jackie Gayda!! Jerry Flynn of WCW (erm..) 'fame', Kurrgan, the list is endless
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 8:42:29 GMT -5
Goldberg, Sandman, Khali and Giant Gonzalez. Granted, it's hard for guys like Khali and Gonzalez to be any kind of quality considering how big they were/are. Please don't take this personally as it's not an attack on you or your opinion...at all. However, I hate that "big guys" are given an excuse for not being able to work. It's unacceptable. I don't expect Gonzalez and Khali to be pulling off split-legged Moonsaults anytime soon but they couldn't even do basic working and selling properly. I mean...the most basic of stuff like punch, kick, chop, sell, choke, repeat. How is that ALL they do and it looks absolutely HORRIBLE? It's unacceptable. Again, they (Gonzalez especially) never should've been allowed to work a televised match. Period. They made the business look like an absolute joke while other guys are out their killing themselves to make it look good. I agree totally. A gigantic size doesn't hinder a talent from performing a good match. Andre/Big Show made careers out of successfully playing 'goliath' against smaller 'davids'. It's one of the simplest, oldest forms of in-ring storytelling. If a big guy can't get over on his size/strength alone, then they suck big time. Gonzalez and Khali were both just dorky and awkward. Gonzalez couldn't stay in character for longer than 30 seconds, gormlessly dazing into the audience looking badly out of sorts. Cringey stuff that exposed Kayfabe. You could argue that Gonzalez rarely fought against a little-guy who could make him look good, but at 7'5 and during the era of Flair/Sting/Horsemen, that's probably not true.
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Post by TheNinthCloud on Feb 21, 2015 13:53:09 GMT -5
Shocked to see Kane mentioned! One of the few big men I enjoyed.
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Post by WMDman on Feb 21, 2015 13:58:36 GMT -5
Giant Gonzales, and it isn't even close.
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Post by The Real Valbroski on Feb 21, 2015 14:22:03 GMT -5
Khali has no redeeming qualities You WISH you had these dance skills. I wish I had these singing skills
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Post by Daniel F'n Bryan on Feb 21, 2015 14:34:50 GMT -5
How has Jeff Hardy not been mentioned? I mean seriously can you name me any memorable Hardy moment that didnt involve him throwing himself off of a ladder or through a table? He fought like a kid plays a wrestling game...kick, punch, kick, punch, top rope & misses a move, kick, punch, high spot off the ladder and pin. Ok seriously this made me disgusted nothing against you what so ever but Jeff Hardy had charisma, incredible moves, and plus he was so unique which made him incredible. Look at people from the likes of the great khali to the sandman. Has great khali even bent his knees ever? Like seriously
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 21, 2015 14:43:07 GMT -5
Honestly, I kind of like the guy, but surely Titus O'Neil is the worst. He's so clumsy and unpolished, he looks awkward delivering and taking moves. He's got a good look and a solid enough gimmick, but he is pure awful in the ring. Obviously Eva Marie is in there. Nathan Whatshisname from WM19 was crap. Heidenreich, Khali, let's not forget the legend Jackie Gayda!! Jerry Flynn of WCW (erm..) 'fame', Kurrgan, the list is endless Titus isn't exactly great, but he's is passable. His matches in NXT with Neville and Zayn were awesome, he really stepped it up.
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Post by PJ on Feb 21, 2015 14:50:02 GMT -5
Here's a couple...PT News and Giant Gonzalez. I also felt the team of Public Enemy was way overrated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 15:16:05 GMT -5
How has Jeff Hardy not been mentioned? I mean seriously can you name me any memorable Hardy moment that didnt involve him throwing himself off of a ladder or through a table? He fought like a kid plays a wrestling game...kick, punch, kick, punch, top rope & misses a move, kick, punch, high spot off the ladder and pin. Ok seriously this made me disgusted nothing against you what so ever but Jeff Hardy had charisma, incredible moves, and plus he was so unique which made him incredible. Look at people from the likes of the great khali to the sandman. Has great khali even bent his knees ever? Like seriously Jeff Hardy was far from incredible.
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Post by PJ on Feb 21, 2015 15:35:27 GMT -5
How has Jeff Hardy not been mentioned? I mean seriously can you name me any memorable Hardy moment that didnt involve him throwing himself off of a ladder or through a table? He fought like a kid plays a wrestling game...kick, punch, kick, punch, top rope & misses a move, kick, punch, high spot off the ladder and pin. Ok seriously this made me disgusted nothing against you what so ever but Jeff Hardy had charisma, incredible moves, and plus he was so unique which made him incredible. Look at people from the likes of the great khali to the sandman. Has great khali even bent his knees ever? Like seriously I think this is the first time charisma and Hardy were ever mentioned in the same sentence. Unless it was Hardy has zero charisma. As far as his move set goes other than the swanton he had nothing unless it was off the top of a ladder. If anyone should have been called a glorified stuntman it should have been Jeff Hardy not Mick Foley. So everyone's going to no sell my Uncle Elmer post and just act like Big Show, Kane and a boatload of hot Divas are worse? Uncle Elmer is the top contender for worst wrestler, you'd have to bring up someone like the Yeti and that was Reese I think, who was much better than Uncle Elmer. Uncle Elmer is King of the Bottom of the Mountain. He's way worse than Zeus, than Jackie Gayda. Give me someone worse. Hacksaw Jim Duggan was stellar in comparison. Uncle Elmer was so bad I forgot about him. lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 15:40:13 GMT -5
Ok seriously this made me disgusted nothing against you what so ever but Jeff Hardy had charisma, incredible moves, and plus he was so unique which made him incredible. Look at people from the likes of the great khali to the sandman. Has great khali even bent his knees ever? Like seriously I think this is the first time charisma and Hardy were ever mentioned in the same sentence. Unless it was Hardy has zero charisma. As far as his move set goes other than the swanton he had nothing unless it was off the top of a ladder. If anyone should have been called a glorified stuntman it should have been Jeff Hardy not Mick Foley. Jeff Hardy had a very very obvious natural charisma to him. Charisma does not mean mic skills.
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Post by PJ on Feb 21, 2015 15:44:38 GMT -5
I think this is the first time charisma and Hardy were ever mentioned in the same sentence. Unless it was Hardy has zero charisma. As far as his move set goes other than the swanton he had nothing unless it was off the top of a ladder. If anyone should have been called a glorified stuntman it should have been Jeff Hardy not Mick Foley. Jeff Hardy had a very very obvious natural charisma to him. Charisma does not mean mic skills. No it doesn't mean mic skills. I didn't even go down that road. I was just going on in ring. Take away the swanton and ladder spots and his matches were very boring and forgettable.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2015 15:46:38 GMT -5
Jeff Hardy had a very very obvious natural charisma to him. Charisma does not mean mic skills. No it doesn't mean mic skills. I didn't even go down that road. I was just going on in ring. Take away the swanton and ladder spots and his matches were very boring and forgettable. Right, he wasn't good in the ring, but he still had a ton of charisma. Only thing he really had.
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