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Post by Planktung on Feb 16, 2015 23:23:54 GMT -5
I'm surprised Ambrose and Barrett haven't faced each other yet. They're in a feud, aren't they supposed to face each other every week before the PPV? WWE is really confusing me ! They wrestled on the go-home show for the Royal Rumble. That win was why Dean Ambrose felt that he deserved a title opportunity.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 16, 2015 23:23:57 GMT -5
I'm not saying Roman is the greatest thing since sliced bread but the guy gets some ridiculous unwarranted hate. And nobody denied that, and HE looked really good in that segment, it just made Bryan look like he couldn't hang with him. Bryan looked GREAT in that brawl. Absolutely great. He looked like a guy with a ton of heart not going down by a guy like Roman. We had to have watched a different segment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:24:19 GMT -5
I didn't see that at all. To me, it seemed like a small technical wrestler holding his own in a brawl with a brutish powerhouse. If anything, I thought Roman should have looked a little stronger there. I don't care to debate you, but Roman no-selling literally everything, makes Bryan look incredibly weak in comparison. They both no sold as much as each other. You know why? because it's a brawl. You see people brawling, and they don't worry about the hits they take. They use every little bit of fight they have to try get some hits in. But to say Reigns no sold literally everything is stupid, because you could clearly see him get knocked back and react to the punch a few times, same with Bryan. They no sold a lot, because it's a brawl, but they also sold the parts where the opponent got a straight stream of offense in.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:24:25 GMT -5
And nobody denied that, and HE looked really good in that segment, it just made Bryan look like he couldn't hang with him. Bryan looked GREAT in that brawl. Absolutely great. He looked like a guy with a ton of heart not going down by a guy like Roman. We had to have watched a different segment. I guess so, because Bryan came out of that looking like shit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:24:52 GMT -5
I don't care to debate you, but Roman no-selling literally everything, makes Bryan look incredibly weak in comparison. They both no sold as much as each other. You know why? because it's a brawl. You see people brawling, and they don't worry about the hits they take. They use every little bit of fight they have to try get some hits in. But to say Reigns no sold literally everything is stupid, because you could clearly see him get knocked back and react to the punch a few times, same with Bryan. They no sold a lot, because it's a brawl, but they also sold the parts where the opponent got a straight stream of offense in. Sigh. It's just not worth debating over it. Agree to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:25:26 GMT -5
Yeah, that's why each time Reigns gets offense in the crowd pops like a ing firework . There's a certain style to WWE matches, and if you haven't figured out why Reigns and Cena matches go the way they do, then you'll never be able to appreciate it. Simple as that. We must not be watching the same shows. He gets pops, sure, but they're really not all that big. Not on this show, because the crowd ing sucked. Even Bryan didn't get a good pop, which tells a lot
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:25:25 GMT -5
No I'm not. The matches were boring as hell. Only good spots in his 2nd match with Rollins were the spots that ROLLINS was doing. Every time Reigns got on the offense it was a snorefest. I had to fast forward his match with Orton because it was so boring Yeah, that's why each time Reigns gets offense in the crowd pops like a ing firework . There's a certain style to WWE matches, and if you haven't figured out why Reigns and Cena matches go the way they do, then you'll never be able to appreciate it. Simple as that. I appreciate Cena matches because he puts on great matches. But there's nothing to appreciate about Reigns matches because all 5 in his singles career have yet to impress and probably never will unless he goes back to developmental and learns to work a crowd and wrestle better
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Post by Chip on Feb 16, 2015 23:26:19 GMT -5
Reigns v Orton sucked Reigns v Rollins was pretty good
I can't remember any other Reigns' singles matches.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:26:20 GMT -5
They both no sold as much as each other. You know why? because it's a brawl. You see people brawling, and they don't worry about the hits they take. They use every little bit of fight they have to try get some hits in. But to say Reigns no sold literally everything is stupid, because you could clearly see him get knocked back and react to the punch a few times, same with Bryan. They no sold a lot, because it's a brawl, but they also sold the parts where the opponent got a straight stream of offense in. Sigh. It's just not worth debating over it. Agree to disagree. Sounds good to me. I'm not trying to come off as a dick or anything, but I just think some of the hate Roman gets is stupid. Agree to disagree
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Post by johnnyb on Feb 16, 2015 23:26:27 GMT -5
I didn't see that at all. To me, it seemed like a small technical wrestler holding his own in a brawl with a brutish powerhouse. If anything, I thought Roman should have looked a little stronger there. I don't care to debate you, but Roman no-selling literally everything, makes Bryan look incredibly weak in comparison. Roman was throwing Bryan all over the place and Bryan was no-selling that! Come on... it was a wild brawl.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 16, 2015 23:26:55 GMT -5
The only person made to look bad tonight was Rusev.
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Post by Rule 30 on Feb 16, 2015 23:26:58 GMT -5
Remember at WrestleMania when Daniel Bryan had a "destroyed" shoulder and then completely no sold it after he won and the next night on RAW? Bryan beats Triple H with an injured shoulder in a long, gruelling match Triple H attacks him after the match Bryan gets batista bomb/rkod through the announce table, carried out on a stretcher Bryan comes back and wins, beating 3 members of evolution in the same night, with a horribly injured shoulder and nearly dying "REIGNS IS BEING BOOKED LIKE SUPERMAN, THAT GUY" We can have a pissing contest about this all night. I can bring up all the times Reigns and Cena were able to dispose of the Authority like a bunch of chumps over the summer too. We'll get nowhere since they don't apply whatsoever to the segment we just watched.
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Post by ASR (therockisback) on Feb 16, 2015 23:28:06 GMT -5
Overall a really good show for me. Cena/Rusev started the show off strong, HHH/Flair segment was good, Ambrose vs Harper was good, PTP are back, Ambrose got a lot of TV time, Barrett got TV time, so did Mizdow, Wyatt, New Day, Kidd, Cesaro, Rhodes, Ziggler, Rollins, Rowan, Ryback etc, Bryan/Reigns had an epic brawl and Paige in that towel was great.
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Post by Chip on Feb 16, 2015 23:29:10 GMT -5
the scale was absolutely tipped in favor of Reigns during that brawl
Reigns got up immediately after Bryan's big dropkick Reigns popped up immediately after being hit with a chair to the back
You could tell they wanted to make sure the audience saw Reigns on the "offense" as much as possible.
Doesn't mean it wasn't a good ending though. It actually was a perfect set up for the match. I'm liking it. And I think Bryan will get a decent match out of Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:29:53 GMT -5
We must not be watching the same shows. He gets pops, sure, but they're really not all that big. Not on this show, because the crowd ing sucked. Even Bryan didn't get a good pop, which tells a lot Oh, I don't mean this show. This crowd was pretty damn terrible, but even in hotbeds, his reaction is extremely mixed. If they're shooting for the next Cena, his monster rise for no real reason is gonna get him hate.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:30:17 GMT -5
Bryan beats Triple H with an injured shoulder in a long, gruelling match Triple H attacks him after the match Bryan gets batista bomb/rkod through the announce table, carried out on a stretcher Bryan comes back and wins, beating 3 members of evolution in the same night, with a horribly injured shoulder and nearly dying "REIGNS IS BEING BOOKED LIKE SUPERMAN, THAT GUY" We can have a pissing contest about this all night. I can bring up all the times Reigns and Cena were able to dispose of the Authority like a bunch of chumps over the summer too. We'll get nowhere since they don't apply whatsoever to the segment we just watched. Idk why but this made me laugh
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 16, 2015 23:30:24 GMT -5
Bryan beats Triple H with an injured shoulder in a long, gruelling match Triple H attacks him after the match Bryan gets batista bomb/rkod through the announce table, carried out on a stretcher Bryan comes back and wins, beating 3 members of evolution in the same night, with a horribly injured shoulder and nearly dying "REIGNS IS BEING BOOKED LIKE SUPERMAN, THAT GUY" We can have a pissing contest about this all night. I can bring up all the times Reigns and Cena were able to dispose of the Authority like a bunch of chumps over the summer too. We'll get nowhere since they don't apply whatsoever to the segment we just watched.They do though. Bryan no sells "whatever" Roman no sells "oh my god Roman made Bryan look like crap"....PLEASE. Daniel is just as much Superman as Cena and Reigns.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:30:25 GMT -5
"WE DONT HATE REIGNS,WE JUST HATE THE WAY HE'S BOOKED" is just an excuse for people to just not admit there not a fan of him.This is absolutely stupid roman no sold but bryan didn't? This isn't a debate to even fight about.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Feb 16, 2015 23:30:59 GMT -5
Well I guess the Lone Swatman rides on. Have some of this again, was on wreddit earlier.
And damn we just made 72 pages.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 23:32:01 GMT -5
"WE DONT HATE REIGNS,WE JUST HATE THE WAY HE'S BOOKED" is just an excuse for people to just not admit there not a fan of him.This is absolutely stupid roman no sold but bryan didn't? This isn't a debate to even fight about. This is just dumb. I like Reigns, BUT he is absolutely booked way over his talent level. It's happened before, it'll likely happen again. He's still incredibly green in the ring. Now, that said, his role tonight, aside from the main event, was perfect. Even his promo wasn't bad.
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