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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 23:14:35 GMT -5
Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol I don't rate matches 1-5 stars well because I know peoples taste is different but if you want a top notch match just look at Daniel and HHH from WrestleMania. I consider that a GREAT wrestling match. One of my favorites in recent memory no doubt. I saw it and eh to me it was great but nothing special since it was obvious Daniel Bryan was going to win. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 23:15:37 GMT -5
Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol The number of 5 star matches in WWE in the last 10-15 years is at 0. Edit: And as for 5 stars, WrestleMania 30 had a 5 star story and was literally everything wrestling should be. The triple threat was slightly overbooked, but all in all it was pretty much 5 Star perfect professional wrestling storytelling.  10 to 15 years? You have a lot of WWE to watch my kind sir. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 23:18:52 GMT -5
The number of 5 star matches in WWE in the last 10-15 years is at 0. Edit: And as for 5 stars, WrestleMania 30 had a 5 star story and was literally everything wrestling should be. The triple threat was slightly overbooked, but all in all it was pretty much 5 Star perfect professional wrestling storytelling. 10 to 15 years? You have a lot of WWE to watch my kind sir. I may've slightly exaggerated, but really just slightly. There's been 5 star oh my God moments, but really just a 5 star perfect match, it's hard to come by. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:21:12 GMT -5
AJ Styles has had many matches that were better than Daniel Bryan matches. And if you say Styles has not have a "WWE" 5 star match you have not seen him in NJPW and his return to ROH. If you're going to use Styles' time in TNA, NJPW and ROH, you have to factor in Bryan's ROH days as well. At which point, Bryan's matches are so much better than Styles' it's not even close. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 23:22:58 GMT -5
10 to 15 years? You have a lot of WWE to watch my kind sir. I may've slightly exaggerated, but really just slightly. There's been 5 star oh my God moments, but really just a 5 star perfect match, it's hard to come by. Shawn Michaels/Kurt Angle? Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho? Triple H/Shawn Michaels? CM Punk/John Cena? Taker/Michaels? Taker/Triple H? Just to name a few....absolute stellar matches. But our opinion on great matches may be different. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:24:08 GMT -5
I may've slightly exaggerated, but really just slightly. There's been 5 star oh my God moments, but really just a 5 star perfect match, it's hard to come by. Shawn Michaels/Kurt Angle? Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho? Triple H/Shawn Michaels? CM Punk/John Cena? Taker/Michaels? Taker/Triple H? Just to name a few....absolute stellar matches. But our opinion on great matches may be different. Well, he did say 5-10 years. I think Angle/Lesnar and Benoit/Jericho were before 2005, HBK/HHH was and Punk/Cena was a great story but had it's flaws for sure. I thought it was 5 stars but can see why people wouldn't. |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 23:25:03 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels/Kurt Angle? Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho? Triple H/Shawn Michaels? CM Punk/John Cena? Taker/Michaels? Taker/Triple H? Just to name a few....absolute stellar matches. But our opinion on great matches may be different. Well, he did say 5-10 years. I think Angle/Lesnar and Benoit/Jericho were before 2005, HBK/HHH was and Punk/Cena was a great story but had it's flaws for sure. I thought it was 5 stars but can see why people wouldn't. He said 10-15 years. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:25:58 GMT -5
Well, he did say 5-10 years. I think Angle/Lesnar and Benoit/Jericho were before 2005, HBK/HHH was and Punk/Cena was a great story but had it's flaws for sure. I thought it was 5 stars but can see why people wouldn't. He said 10-15 years. Wow, I can't read tonight. Carry on. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 23:26:45 GMT -5
I may've slightly exaggerated, but really just slightly. There's been 5 star oh my God moments, but really just a 5 star perfect match, it's hard to come by. Shawn Michaels/Kurt Angle? Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho? Triple H/Shawn Michaels? CM Punk/John Cena? Taker/Michaels? Taker/Triple H? Just to name a few....absolute stellar matches. But our opinion on great matches may be different. All great and fantastic, but if we gave every great match 5 stars it'd be ridiculous. Not being 5 stars doesn't make a match not great. I might be close to cracking and give you Angle vs Michaels 5 stars though. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 18, 2015 23:28:51 GMT -5
AJ Styles has had many matches that were better than Daniel Bryan matches. And if you say Styles has not have a "WWE" 5 star match you have not seen him in NJPW and his return to ROH. If you're going to use Styles' time in TNA, NJPW and ROH, you have to factor in Bryan's ROH days as well. At which point, Bryan's matches are so much better than Styles' it's not even close. I'm not talking about TNA. I'm talking about NJPW and ROH. Styles has had matches that are much better then Bryan matches in 2014 |
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 23:30:08 GMT -5
Shawn Michaels/Kurt Angle? Brock Lesnar/Kurt Angle? Chris Benoit/Chris Jericho? Triple H/Shawn Michaels? CM Punk/John Cena? Taker/Michaels? Taker/Triple H? Just to name a few....absolute stellar matches. But our opinion on great matches may be different. All great and fantastic, but if we gave every great match 5 stars it'd be ridiculous. Not being 5 stars doesn't make a match not great. I might be close to cracking and give you Angle vs Michaels 5 stars though. Well honestly the whole "5 star" thing is absolutely ridiculous because no one can possibly rate a match 5 stars seeing as how almost everyone has a different opinion on what makes a match "5 stars". The same can be said for movies and music albums. I don't believe in the "5 star" theory but I do believe in great matches and bad matches. |
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 23:31:43 GMT -5
All great and fantastic, but if we gave every great match 5 stars it'd be ridiculous. Not being 5 stars doesn't make a match not great. I might be close to cracking and give you Angle vs Michaels 5 stars though. Well honestly the whole "5 star" thing is absolutely ridiculous because no one can possibly rate a match 5 stars seeing as how almost everyone has a different opinion on what makes a match "5 stars". The same can be said for movies and music albums. I don't believe in the "5 star" theory but I do believe in great matches and bad matches. That is a very good point, professional wrestling really is just subjective. |
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Post by Jonathan Karate on Feb 18, 2015 23:32:04 GMT -5
Ya know.....i somewhat agree that Bryan has yet to have a 5 star match in the WWE. I'll admit he came VERY close with Cena and Triple H but he has not come close to touching his ROH stuff. There's way too much kicking for me and thats coming from a huge fan of guys like KENTA.
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Post by Dr. Mantis Toboggan MD on Feb 18, 2015 23:32:47 GMT -5
He is a good wrestler, but WWE doesn't need wrestlers nearly as much as talkers at the moment and Styles is crap on the mic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:33:23 GMT -5
If you're going to use Styles' time in TNA, NJPW and ROH, you have to factor in Bryan's ROH days as well. At which point, Bryan's matches are so much better than Styles' it's not even close. I'm not talking about TNA. I'm talking about NJPW and ROH. Styles has had matches that are much better then Bryan matches in 2014 Agree to disagree. In my opinion, not a single thing AJ has ever done (besides the triple threat as stated) even touches WM 30 Bryan vs HHH. |
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 18, 2015 23:35:48 GMT -5
I'm not talking about TNA. I'm talking about NJPW and ROH. Styles has had matches that are much better then Bryan matches in 2014 Agree to disagree. In my opinion, not a single thing AJ has ever done (besides the triple threat as stated) even touches WM 30 Bryan vs HHH. It's your opinion but you must have not seen Styles/O'Reilly, Styles/Okada, Styles/Tanahashi, and Styles and Young Bucks/Alexander and Sydal and ACH |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:37:05 GMT -5
Agree to disagree. In my opinion, not a single thing AJ has ever done (besides the triple threat as stated) even touches WM 30 Bryan vs HHH. It's your opinion but you must have not seen Styles/O'Reilly, Styles/Okada, Styles/Tanahashi, and Styles and Young Bucks/Alexander and Sydal and ACH I saw all of them except that six man. Young Bucks are just not a team I enjoy watching, so I don't. The others still do not touch the WM 30 match. |
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Feb 18, 2015 23:40:13 GMT -5
They should. I mean how old is Cena? Lesnar? HHH? Yeah sign the guy. Instant face.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 18, 2015 23:40:11 GMT -5
It's your opinion but you must have not seen Styles/O'Reilly, Styles/Okada, Styles/Tanahashi, and Styles and Young Bucks/Alexander and Sydal and ACH I saw all of them except that six man. Young Bucks are just not a team I enjoy watching, so I don't. The others still do not touch the WM 30 match. HHH/Bryan had a good match but it is nothing compare to Styles/Suzuki from G1 Climax. Just saying |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:40:37 GMT -5
I saw all of them except that six man. Young Bucks are just not a team I enjoy watching, so I don't. The others still do not touch the WM 30 match. HHH/Bryan had a good match but it is nothing compare to Styles/Suzuki from G1 Climax. Just saying And this is where the conversation stops. |
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