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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 22:50:36 GMT -5
You forgot his early rivalries with Christopher Daniels and of course the tag team matches against LAX. None of which I'd give five stars. That's your opinion man. We can agree to disagree.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:52:11 GMT -5
I'd love to see AJ in WWE.
My favorite incarnation of AJ was when he was the over eager heel lackey to Angle. I think he had a crush on Karen or something.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 22:52:38 GMT -5
You forgot his early rivalries with Christopher Daniels and of course the tag team matches against LAX. None of which I'd give five stars. I have to agree with Palmer. AJ has had some really good matches but a lot of his matches have just been....moves and spots. Thats it nothing more and nothing less. Moves and spots. Moves and spots are great when they mean something. I feel the same about a lot of guys. Moves and spots, moves and spots, moves and spots. No story and no point. "Oh I'm working you tonight? Mind if I do this and this for no apparent reason at all?"
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:54:03 GMT -5
None of which I'd give five stars. I have to agree with Palmer. AJ has had some really good matches but a lot of his matches have just been....moves and spots. Thats it nothing more and nothing less. Moves and spots. Moves and spots are great when they mean something. I feel the same about a lot of guys. Moves and spots, moves and spots, moves and spots. No story and no point. "Oh I'm working you tonight? Mind if I do this and this for no apparent reason at all?" I don't HATE the guy by any means, I just find him overrated. He's a great great high flyer and spot guy. His weekly TNA PPV stuff was awesome because that was the style of the promotion at the time. I haven't seen a lot of his NJPW stuff yet, so I can't judge that fairly, but man, he leaves a lot to be desired.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 22:55:20 GMT -5
None of which I'd give five stars. I have to agree with Palmer. AJ has had some really good matches but a lot of his matches have just been....moves and spots. Thats it nothing more and nothing less. Moves and spots. Moves and spots are great when they mean something. I feel the same about a lot of guys. Moves and spots, moves and spots, moves and spots. No story and no point. "Oh I'm working you tonight? Mind if I do this and this for no apparent reason at all?" You could say the same about Daniel Bryan the guy does nothing but kicks. I know he can preform a really great match, but I've been waiting to see it since he's been in the WWE. The reason I like AJ is cuz I feel the guy can have a great match with anybody.
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 22:58:13 GMT -5
5 stars according to who? Melter? That's one mans opinion, Bryan has had multiple matches I would deem 5 stars. The triple threat at Unbreakable was by far a 5-Star match regardless of who say it is. And I disagree as it's easily mostly everybody's opinion and is seen as the best TNA match in history. Daniel has had some great matches but nothing 5-star level in the WWE. I'm not saying that the triple threat wasn't 5 stars, it is. But Bryan has had even more 5 star matches than that. His matches with McGuiness, KENTA, Morishima, and Aries were all 5 stars. Not to mention hundreds of 4.75 star matches. AJ has never had a 5 star WWE match either
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 22:58:44 GMT -5
I have to agree with Palmer. AJ has had some really good matches but a lot of his matches have just been....moves and spots. Thats it nothing more and nothing less. Moves and spots. Moves and spots are great when they mean something. I feel the same about a lot of guys. Moves and spots, moves and spots, moves and spots. No story and no point. "Oh I'm working you tonight? Mind if I do this and this for no apparent reason at all?" I don't HATE the guy by any means, I just find him overrated. He's a great great high flyer and spot guy. His weekly TNA PPV stuff was awesome because that was the style of the promotion at the time. I haven't seen a lot of his NJPW stuff yet, so I can't judge that fairly, but man, he leaves a lot to be desired. Oh no I don't hate him either. I think its obvious the guy was 100% TNA. No one else represented that company in my eyes except AJ. He just never bothered to do anything different and TNA never bothered to do anything with him until his last months. Someone said it a few posts ago. Lackey AJ was the best AJ. He and Kurt had a story behind their matches and Kurt carried a lot of those matches because well...Kurt can tell a story.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 22:59:47 GMT -5
I have to agree with Palmer. AJ has had some really good matches but a lot of his matches have just been....moves and spots. Thats it nothing more and nothing less. Moves and spots. Moves and spots are great when they mean something. I feel the same about a lot of guys. Moves and spots, moves and spots, moves and spots. No story and no point. "Oh I'm working you tonight? Mind if I do this and this for no apparent reason at all?" You could say the same about Daniel Bryan the guy does nothing but kicks. I know he can preform a really great match, but I've been waiting to see it since he's been in the WWE. The reason I like AJ is cuz I feel the guy can have a great match with anybody. There's also a huge difference in opponents you gotta realize. Styles is literally booked against good wrestlers every time he steps in the ring. He had a pretty awful match against Hawkins right after he left TNA. Other than that, every opponent has been one that compliments his style. That's not a sleight against him obviously, cause he doesn't book the matches, but I'd like to see Styles put on good matches facing Big Show and Kane every week.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:00:52 GMT -5
All I know is that his name would have to be AJ something because he has a gigantic AJ tattooed on his side. WTF was he thinking? I cringed so hard at that. It makes sense. The first intial of his children's first and last names are A and J. And then the dates they were born. But tattoos are subjective I guess.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 23:02:00 GMT -5
The triple threat at Unbreakable was by far a 5-Star match regardless of who say it is. And I disagree as it's easily mostly everybody's opinion and is seen as the best TNA match in history. Daniel has had some great matches but nothing 5-star level in the WWE. I'm not saying that the triple threat wasn't 5 stars, it is. But Bryan has had even more 5 star matches than that. His matches with McGuiness, KENTA, Morishima, and Aries were all 5 stars. Not to mention hundreds of 4.75 star matches. AJ has never had a 5 star WWE match either Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:03:15 GMT -5
All I know is that his name would have to be AJ something because he has a gigantic AJ tattooed on his side. WTF was he thinking? I cringed so hard at that. It makes sense. The first intial of his children's first and last names are A and J. And then the dates they were born. But tattoos are subjective I guess. I like tattoos, but I hate tattoos that are just big blotches of black ink. It would have looked so much better smaller...and not on his side.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 18, 2015 23:03:23 GMT -5
AJ Styles said do himself that he does not want to go to WWE. He is happy where he is now
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:03:36 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the triple threat wasn't 5 stars, it is. But Bryan has had even more 5 star matches than that. His matches with McGuiness, KENTA, Morishima, and Aries were all 5 stars. Not to mention hundreds of 4.75 star matches. AJ has never had a 5 star WWE match either Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol Ziggler vs Bryan at Bragging Rights was better than every match AJ has ever had besides the triple threat. Bryan vs Triple H from only last year, too.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 23:05:31 GMT -5
You could say the same about Daniel Bryan the guy does nothing but kicks. I know he can preform a really great match, but I've been waiting to see it since he's been in the WWE. The reason I like AJ is cuz I feel the guy can have a great match with anybody. There's also a huge difference in opponents you gotta realize. Styles is literally booked against good wrestlers every time he steps in the ring. He had a pretty awful match against Hawkins right after he left TNA. Other than that, every opponent has been one that compliments his style. That's not a sleight against him obviously, cause he doesn't book the matches, but I'd like to see Styles put on good matches facing Big Show and Kane every week. Put a good match against Kane or Big Show? That's almost near impossible.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 23:06:52 GMT -5
There's also a huge difference in opponents you gotta realize. Styles is literally booked against good wrestlers every time he steps in the ring. He had a pretty awful match against Hawkins right after he left TNA. Other than that, every opponent has been one that compliments his style. That's not a sleight against him obviously, cause he doesn't book the matches, but I'd like to see Styles put on good matches facing Big Show and Kane every week. Put a good match against Kane or Big Show? That's almost near impossible. I think it might be legitimately impossible at this point.
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Post by Todd Pettengill on Feb 18, 2015 23:07:35 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the triple threat wasn't 5 stars, it is. But Bryan has had even more 5 star matches than that. His matches with McGuiness, KENTA, Morishima, and Aries were all 5 stars. Not to mention hundreds of 4.75 star matches. AJ has never had a 5 star WWE match either Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol I don't rate matches 1-5 stars well because I know peoples taste is different but if you want a top notch match just look at Daniel and HHH from WrestleMania. I consider that a GREAT wrestling match. One of my favorites in recent memory no doubt.
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 23:10:06 GMT -5
I'm not saying that the triple threat wasn't 5 stars, it is. But Bryan has had even more 5 star matches than that. His matches with McGuiness, KENTA, Morishima, and Aries were all 5 stars. Not to mention hundreds of 4.75 star matches. AJ has never had a 5 star WWE match either Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol The number of 5 star matches in WWE in the last 10-15 years is at 0. Edit: And as for 5 stars, WrestleMania 30 had a 5 star story and was literally everything wrestling should be. The triple threat was slightly overbooked, but all in all it was pretty much 5 Star perfect professional wrestling storytelling.
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Post by Darkhawk on Feb 18, 2015 23:13:06 GMT -5
Those are his indies days man I'm sure most wrestlers have preform an amazing match in their indies days. I'm still waiting for Daniel Bryan to preform a 5-star level match in the WWE. And well true lol The number of 5 star matches in WWE in the last 10-15 years is at 0. What about Wrestlemania 25 Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels. I think that was easily a 5-star match and by far Undertaker's best wrestlemania match.
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Post by The Yes Man on Feb 18, 2015 23:14:09 GMT -5
The number of 5 star matches in WWE in the last 10-15 years is at 0. What about Wrestlemania 25 Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels. I think that was easily a 5-star match and by far Undertaker's best wrestlemania match. 4.9999. Also, I edited my last post, you may wanna take a look at it.
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Post by CMPUNKISGOOD on Feb 18, 2015 23:14:16 GMT -5
AJ Styles has had many matches that were better than Daniel Bryan matches. And if you say Styles has not have a "WWE" 5 star match you have not seen him in NJPW and his return to ROH.
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