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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 13:46:44 GMT -5
Why would you guys want another Cena? I think they're trying to make Roman as little like Cena as possible in terms of booking and now promos. Thank goodness he quit the fairy tales.
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Post by Chip on Feb 23, 2015 13:49:50 GMT -5
Reigns can't hold a candle to Cena on the mic OR in the ring. So you're right, he's not another Cena
not by a long shot
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2015 13:57:01 GMT -5
No. I don't feel Roman Reigns should be looking "lucky" when he's set to face Brock Lesnar who has had one of the most dominating years in history. So how exactly was he supposed to win last night? Pull a Brock lesnar and do a bunch of german suplexs in the match? You don't seem to get it. He should not dominate Bryan completely. He should not get his ass kicked and come off looking lucky. That looks stupid. It should be in the middle. I felt the match was rather even. Others felt Roman had all of the offense and others felt Bryan did. But to say that he should have come off looking lucky is ridiculous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 14:00:07 GMT -5
So how exactly was he supposed to win last night? Pull a Brock lesnar and do a bunch of german suplexs in the match? You don't seem to get it. He should not dominate Bryan completely. He should not get his ass kicked and come off looking lucky. That looks stupid. It should be in the middle. I felt the match was rather even. Others felt Roman had all of the offense and others felt Bryan did. But to say that he should have come off looking lucky is ridiculous. Those forearm strikes to the head looked brutal.
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Post by T R W on Feb 23, 2015 14:00:18 GMT -5
Reigns wasn't bad last night. My biggest issue with Reigns was that his momentum had been killed due to his injury and he was clearly rusty on top of still being a little green. But I thought he delivered pretty well last night. Of course, he was sucking wind like the Ultimate Warrior halfway through the match too. I can't imagine Lesnar/Reigns being very long because neither of them are exactly built for it.
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Post by Chip on Feb 23, 2015 14:01:30 GMT -5
i loved the concept that Bryan had Reigns' right arm pulled back behind his legs stretching and bending in effort to make him tap while pulling back on his head
for reigns to pop out of it and immediately start striking bryan in the head with the same arm
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2015 14:01:48 GMT -5
You don't seem to get it. He should not dominate Bryan completely. He should not get his ass kicked and come off looking lucky. That looks stupid. It should be in the middle. I felt the match was rather even. Others felt Roman had all of the offense and others felt Bryan did. But to say that he should have come off looking lucky is ridiculous. Those forearm strikes to the head looked brutal. And when Bryan was kicking Roman in the face. Good lord.
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Post by K5 on Feb 23, 2015 14:22:51 GMT -5
all this roman crapreally killed my interest...i haven't been watching raw or ppvs for quite a while now. will probably watch wrestlemania like two weeks after it happened.
if they'd gone with bryan/lesnar and built the story well? i'd be captivated.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 14:30:52 GMT -5
So how exactly was he supposed to win last night? Pull a Brock lesnar and do a bunch of german suplexs in the match? You don't seem to get it. He should not dominate Bryan completely. He should not get his ass kicked and come off looking lucky. That looks stupid. It should be in the middle. I felt the match was rather even. Others felt Roman had all of the offense and others felt Bryan did. But to say that he should have come off looking lucky is ridiculous. I don't see how he was dominanted by Daniel Bryan because he did indeed fight back pretty hard against him using his strengths.Like that clothesline that pretty much flipped him over like a pancake,Those forearms and him constantly reversing his submission moves.I thought it was even on both sides.
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Post by Mr. McCluer on Feb 23, 2015 14:34:01 GMT -5
I still think Rollins is going to make quick work of Randy. And then once Brock makes his entrance and we're getting ready for the ring announcements, Rollins is going to one out to a POP and cash in his money in the bank briefcase to join the 'Mania Main Event.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2015 14:41:05 GMT -5
You don't seem to get it. He should not dominate Bryan completely. He should not get his ass kicked and come off looking lucky. That looks stupid. It should be in the middle. I felt the match was rather even. Others felt Roman had all of the offense and others felt Bryan did. But to say that he should have come off looking lucky is ridiculous. I don't see how he was dominanted by Daniel Bryan because he did indeed fight back pretty hard against him using his strengths.Like that clothesline that pretty much flipped him over like a pancake,Those forearms and him constantly reversing his submission moves.I thought it was even on both sides. I thought so too, which was how it should be. Not Roman dominating and not Roman getting lucky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 14:50:00 GMT -5
I don't see how he was dominanted by Daniel Bryan because he did indeed fight back pretty hard against him using his strengths.Like that clothesline that pretty much flipped him over like a pancake,Those forearms and him constantly reversing his submission moves.I thought it was even on both sides. I thought so too, which was how it should be. Not Roman dominating and not Roman getting lucky. Like I said before defeating daniel bryan is no easy task.He's right up there next to cena your gonna need to pull a big miracle in order to defeat Daniel Bryan.He did defeat Bryan by luck he defeated him by a spear out of nowhere.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2015 14:56:56 GMT -5
I thought so too, which was how it should be. Not Roman dominating and not Roman getting lucky. Like I said before defeating daniel bryan is no easy task.He's right up there next to cena your gonna need to pull a big miracle in order to defeat Daniel Bryan.He did defeat Bryan by luck he defeated him by a spear out of nowhere. No matter how legit Daniel Bryan is, Roman Reigns shouldn't win by getting lucky. If we're supposed to buy him as a guy who can beat Brock Lesnar, the guy who ended the streak and obliterated John Cena, he has to be more than lucky. I don't think he came off looking lucky, but if people view it as that, then it wasn't done right.
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Post by J12 on Feb 23, 2015 15:01:48 GMT -5
I think we're past the point of buying into Roman Reigns being a guy that can beat Brock Lesnar. He can't even beat The Big Show or Kane, why should I believe he's going to have a chance against Brock? Considering they've been so focused on "making Roman look strong", they've done a pretty awful job at it.
But they don't give a crap. The dude who can't beat Kane or Show - who are, for all intents and purposes, parodies of their former selves, is going to beat the guy that ended the streak and destroyed John Cena. And people say they can't buy into Bryan beating Brock...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:06:27 GMT -5
Like I said before defeating daniel bryan is no easy task.He's right up there next to cena your gonna need to pull a big miracle in order to defeat Daniel Bryan.He did defeat Bryan by luck he defeated him by a spear out of nowhere. No matter how legit Daniel Bryan is, Roman Reigns shouldn't win by getting lucky. If we're supposed to buy him as a guy who can beat Brock Lesnar, the guy who ended the streak and obliterated John Cena, he has to be more than lucky. I don't think he came off looking lucky, but if people view it as that, then it wasn't done right. There are 5 men currently on the roster where it's gonna take a mircale to defeat. 1.John Cena-Because hes cena 2.Seth Rollins-Because he has the authority on his side and mostly cheats to win. 3.Daniel Bryan-The Most over babyface and puts up one hell of a fight. 4.Rusev-Like seth finds anyway to win either by cheating,countout,DQ or KO. 5.Brock lesnar-Easily dominated everyone in his path. Your gonna have to pull every thing you can to beat these guys which is why this win against bryan was so important.Not everyone can say they defeated these guys here.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:08:56 GMT -5
I think we're past the point of buying into Roman Reigns being a guy that can beat Brock Lesnar. He can't even beat The Big Show or Kane, why should I believe he's going to have a chance against Brock? Considering they've been so focused on "making Roman look strong", they've done a pretty awful job at it. But they don't give a crap. The dude who can't beat Kane or Show - who are, for all intents and purposes, parodies of their former selves, is going to beat the guy that ended the streak and destroyed John Cena. And people say they can't buy into Bryan beating Brock... But he has defeated the big show and kane several times already.The only reason they really won a match was because of a distraction by someone either seth or bryan.
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Post by J12 on Feb 23, 2015 15:12:43 GMT -5
I think we're past the point of buying into Roman Reigns being a guy that can beat Brock Lesnar. He can't even beat The Big Show or Kane, why should I believe he's going to have a chance against Brock? Considering they've been so focused on "making Roman look strong", they've done a pretty awful job at it. But they don't give a crap. The dude who can't beat Kane or Show - who are, for all intents and purposes, parodies of their former selves, is going to beat the guy that ended the streak and destroyed John Cena. And people say they can't buy into Bryan beating Brock... But he has defeated the big show and kane several times already.The only reason they really won a match was because of a distraction by someone either seth or bryan. Reigns had a mini-feud with Kane last summer where he was winning, but when did he ever get a clean win over Kane or Show since returning in December? Interference is hardly relevant here. The fact of the matter is that the new golden boy has been losing, or looking like a chump, against two of the company's longest standing jokes for the last three months.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Feb 23, 2015 15:15:08 GMT -5
No matter how legit Daniel Bryan is, Roman Reigns shouldn't win by getting lucky. If we're supposed to buy him as a guy who can beat Brock Lesnar, the guy who ended the streak and obliterated John Cena, he has to be more than lucky. I don't think he came off looking lucky, but if people view it as that, then it wasn't done right. There are 5 men currently on the roster where it's gonna take a mircale to defeat. 1.John Cena-Because hes cena 2.Seth Rollins-Because he has the authority on his side and mostly cheats to win. 3.Daniel Bryan-The Most over babyface and puts up one hell of a fight. 4.Rusev-Like seth finds anyway to win either by cheating,countout,DQ or KO. 5.Brock lesnar-Easily dominated everyone in his path. Your gonna have to pull every thing you can to beat these guys which is why this win against bryan was so important.Not everyone can say they defeated these guys here. I don't think you're getting this. Yes, those guys are incredibly hard to defeat and for good reason. However, Roman Reigns is supposed to be the next big thing. If we are to view him as a legit threat to these guys, he shouldn't get lucky wins. He needs decisive ones because he is not just some guy who should get lucky.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:22:36 GMT -5
There are 5 men currently on the roster where it's gonna take a mircale to defeat. 1.John Cena-Because hes cena 2.Seth Rollins-Because he has the authority on his side and mostly cheats to win. 3.Daniel Bryan-The Most over babyface and puts up one hell of a fight. 4.Rusev-Like seth finds anyway to win either by cheating,countout,DQ or KO. 5.Brock lesnar-Easily dominated everyone in his path. Your gonna have to pull every thing you can to beat these guys which is why this win against bryan was so important.Not everyone can say they defeated these guys here. I don't think you're getting this. Yes, those guys are incredibly hard to defeat and for good reason. However, Roman Reigns is supposed to be the next big thing. If we are to view him as a legit threat to these guys, he shouldn't get lucky wins. He needs decisive ones because he is not just some guy who should get lucky. Like I said, I think they're doing it on purpose so people won't keep saying he wins all the time like Cena.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 23, 2015 15:23:11 GMT -5
But he has defeated the big show and kane several times already.The only reason they really won a match was because of a distraction by someone either seth or bryan. Reigns had a mini-feud with Kane last summer where he was winning, but when did he ever get a clean win over Kane or Show since returning in December? Interference is hardly relevant here. The fact of the matter is that the new golden boy has been losing, or looking like a chump, against two of the company's longest standing jokes for the last three months. He defeated kane last week on raw and has defeated big show several times
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