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Post by rustyy on Mar 2, 2015 17:18:18 GMT -5
If the cancellation rate continues the network will end up like the XFL Good. Vince needs to learn, apparently the hard way that this isn't HIS personal playground. It's his company, but without the fans it's nothing. You can only spit in the fans face so much before they don't watch anymore.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 2, 2015 17:30:28 GMT -5
Everyone has problems, some just handle theirs differently than others. No worries. I punch babies when I have bad days. Their heads are soft and they don't hit back, so it's a win/win. I'm not alone.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 18:08:31 GMT -5
¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello!, @kidxlolz, marino13, @pooky, Andrewghbk99I'm sorry to bump this thread. I really thought about just letting things go but I just have to apologize to everyone. Without getting into to much detail, I've got something pretty major going on in my life right now and for reasons that I don't quite understand everything that's going on manifested itself as a psychotic rant on a toy forum. That first justify or excuse my behavior but I've given everyone here the completely wrong idea of who I am. And just once more to everyone I tagged, anyone I may have forgotten to tag, everyone else who read this thread and to the mods that have to deal with this nonsense, I am very sorry and this will not happen again. Da fuu.. Dude it's fineeeee, you're still wrong though. Ha. I'm going through some pretty crappy stuff myself as it goes. Infact I'm due in court for the next few days (I've not broken any laws, different court lol), I bet people's lives being in ruin is behind half of all frustrated opinionated users around here. I'm a massive example myself. So I have to respect that you've effectively just done what I personally haven't been big enough to do after any of my rants at people on here. Besides, you translate your situation into passion for wrestling, just the kind of people this board thrives off. Gotta love it. Your a good apple, dude.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 2, 2015 19:06:21 GMT -5
Where did this false 200k number come from? Did the OP misread the reports or what?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 19:10:22 GMT -5
I wonder how many of those cancelled subscribers became new subscribers in February?
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Post by slappy on Mar 2, 2015 19:11:43 GMT -5
Where did this false 200k number come from? Did the OP misread the reports or what? It says average paid subscribers went down almost 200,000 between December and January but nowhere does it say that every single one of them came after the Rumble.
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Post by Next Man’s Knowing Rock on Mar 2, 2015 19:15:11 GMT -5
Where did this false 200k number come from? Did the OP misread the reports or what? It says average paid subscribers went down almost 200,000 between December and January Where?
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Post by slappy on Mar 2, 2015 19:17:23 GMT -5
It says average paid subscribers went down almost 200,000 between December and January Where? Seems they actually changed it. There used to be a number in Avg. Paid Subscribers but it seems to have changed to n/a for some reason. But either way, it never said anything about those that canceled after the Rumble.
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Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Mar 2, 2015 20:32:21 GMT -5
If the cancellation rate continues the network will end up like the XFL Good. Vince needs to learn, apparently the hard way that this isn't HIS personal playground. It's his company, but without the fans it's nothing. You can only spit in the fans face so much before they don't watch anymore. Facepalm.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 2, 2015 20:41:35 GMT -5
Everyone has problems, some just handle theirs differently than others. No worries. I punch babies when I have bad days. Their heads are soft and they don't hit back, so it's a win/win. Punching babies is good for business.
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Post by rustyy on Mar 2, 2015 20:42:13 GMT -5
Good. Vince needs to learn, apparently the hard way that this isn't HIS personal playground. It's his company, but without the fans it's nothing. You can only spit in the fans face so much before they don't watch anymore. Facepalm. i agree, hate well thought out opinions, much prefer silly one word quotes. Face palm.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 20:45:07 GMT -5
i agree, hate well thought out opinions, much prefer silly one word quotes. Face palm. It's not good though. Sure, it can send a message, but it's not something you can fix overnight. If the numbers took as big of a hit like 200k (assuming article stated that for this post's purpose) after everything the hardcore fans disagreed with, it would sink WWE faster than they can reach the surface again. It would be the opposite of good.
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Post by theMOESIAH on Mar 2, 2015 21:06:00 GMT -5
i agree, hate well thought out opinions, much prefer silly one word quotes. Face palm. It's not good though. Sure, it can send a message, but it's not something you can fix overnight. If the numbers took as big of a hit like 200k (assuming article stated that for this post's purpose) after everything the hardcore fans disagreed with, it would sink WWE faster than they can reach the surface again. It would be the opposite of good. Unless they have the exact date and time everyone cancelled, there is no way to tell if this has anything to do with the Royal Rumble. So this whole conversion could be moot anyway.
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Post by rustyy on Mar 2, 2015 23:33:56 GMT -5
i agree, hate well thought out opinions, much prefer silly one word quotes. Face palm. It's not good though. Sure, it can send a message, but it's not something you can fix overnight. If the numbers took as big of a hit like 200k (assuming article stated that for this post's purpose) after everything the hardcore fans disagreed with, it would sink WWE faster than they can reach the surface again. It would be the opposite of good. A message Vince needs to see. If things don't start to go bad, nothing will ever change. WWE will stay a sinking ship and die the way Vince seems to want it too. Bryan (The most over face since Stone Cold) being in the IC match at Mania, while someone with split crowd reactions that can't cut a promo or work is exactly why people need to cancel. This is like booking Test to main event against Rock instead of Austin, it doesn't make sense, business wise or what the people want wise. I just saw the other day, it was a quote from Vince that said something along the lines of they'd (WWE) would rather have a half empty arena cheering for who they want, then a full one cheering for who they want.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 23:35:51 GMT -5
It's not good though. Sure, it can send a message, but it's not something you can fix overnight. If the numbers took as big of a hit like 200k (assuming article stated that for this post's purpose) after everything the hardcore fans disagreed with, it would sink WWE faster than they can reach the surface again. It would be the opposite of good. A message Vince needs to see. If things don't start to go bad, nothing will ever change. WWE will stay a sinking ship and die the way Vince seems to want it too. Bryan (The most over face since Stone Cold) being in the IC match at Mania, while someone with split crowd reactions that can't cut a promo or work is exactly why people need to cancel. This is like booking Test to main event against Rock instead of Austin, it doesn't make sense, business wise or what the people want wise. I just saw the other day, it was a quote from Vince that said something along the lines of they'd (WWE) would rather have a half empty arena cheering for who they want, then a full one cheering for who they want. The problem is, if he sees that message, it's already too late to fix it.
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Post by Rob on Mar 2, 2015 23:36:53 GMT -5
This Raw is a good example of why the Network is failing. What a snoozefest of a damn show.
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Post by rustyy on Mar 2, 2015 23:42:54 GMT -5
A message Vince needs to see. If things don't start to go bad, nothing will ever change. WWE will stay a sinking ship and die the way Vince seems to want it too. Bryan (The most over face since Stone Cold) being in the IC match at Mania, while someone with split crowd reactions that can't cut a promo or work is exactly why people need to cancel. This is like booking Test to main event against Rock instead of Austin, it doesn't make sense, business wise or what the people want wise. I just saw the other day, it was a quote from Vince that said something along the lines of they'd (WWE) would rather have a half empty arena cheering for who they want, then a full one cheering for who they want. The problem is, if he sees that message, it's already too late to fix it. Doesn't mean it can't be fixed later, we don't need 3 RTWM's hijacked by fans. You know he'll do it again next year if things don't change.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 23:44:23 GMT -5
The problem is, if he sees that message, it's already too late to fix it. Doesn't mean it can't be fixed later, we don't need 3 RTWM's hijacked by fans. You know he'll do it again next year if things don't change. If it's too late to be fixed, it mean it can't be fixed later lol. It'd be like them trying to go and repair the Titanic now. Once the ship is sinking fast you can't repair it. Fortunately, I don't believe for one second they lost 200k subscribers in a month. There aren't enough idiots on the... oh. I guess it is possible then, but I still highly doubt it.
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Post by BCizzle on Mar 3, 2015 23:17:59 GMT -5
I let my sub end because I haven't been watching it in a while. Didn't watch Fast Lane, though I did try to watch the main event and the feed on my PS4 wouldn't work. But I will sign up again before Mania. I'm not boycotting or anything, but I don't like the product enough to go see them when they are in town (like tonight, which seemed to be a just a filler edition of SmackDown, shocker!)
There is so much older content I mean to watch, but I don't. With WWE Classics on Demand, there was an expiration date on the shows, so I had to watch them or they'd be gone. With the Network, I didn't have to worry about it, and there is so much stuff, that I just put off watching it and ending up not watching it at all. And my DVR is almost full with shows, too. Not enough hours in the day to sit on my ass and watch wrestling.
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