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Feb 27, 2015 19:14:28 GMT -5
Post by Robert69 on Feb 27, 2015 19:14:28 GMT -5
Totally agreed about the Skinner. The sad part is that before he was revealed to just be some weird foreign guy who was after drug money, he was pretty creepy. Skinning people? That's intense. What a waste. As far as season 5 goes, I loved Lumen. And honestly, it wasn't the villains that enticed me in season 5. Honestly they were secondary, if not tertiary to what was important to me that season. What I found really well done in season 5 was the character development. All the drama surrounding everyone was just really intriguing. The dynamic between Dexter and Lumen and all the other characters was just phenomenal. I was really sad to see Lumen go. And it always bothered me that she never cameoed later on. My only complaint about Season 5 actually was the very first episode. They handled Rita's death very oddly. I thought it was really strange that Debra like didn't cry or feel anything. She just ran in like oh Dex you okay? Cool let's go to my apartment. I mean her ing sister in law just died brutally. They spent a lot of time together. Hell the whole squad's reaction just didn't fit the severity of the situation. This was punctuated by the worst line in the history of the show. When Masuka is looking at Dexter's dead wife in a bathtub and says... "I've imagined her naked plenty of times, but never like this." Really? Dexter's wife is dead in a ing bathtub and you say that? Even for Masuka, even for a TV show, that was just poorly written. Aside from that though, season 5 was fantastic. But Season 8... Ugh. ing disgrace. Yeah that was completely a dumb thing to say. I guess they had to get the perverted comment/joke out of the way as quick as possible. Quinn & Liddy looking into Dexter, and later, Lumen was pretty entertaining (well to me anyways). Peter Weller plays a great butthole in the stuff he's in...I thought it was funny that as Season 5 of Dexter was wrapping up, he was also in the Season 5(?) finale of Psych as well. I still don't know how Showtime and the showrunners, producers, etc. thought that series finale was even good. Hell, the Breaking Bad finale that followed a week after that mess was what a proper series finale should be. It's mindboggling. The only thing I can think is, having looked into it a bit, Showtime didn't even make it official that S8 would be the last until about half way through filming the season...doesn't even leave the best writers working, a whole lot of time to wrap up the story set in place, loose ends, contractual obligations, etc...
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Feb 27, 2015 19:25:25 GMT -5
Post by Self-Savior on Feb 27, 2015 19:25:25 GMT -5
Yeah that was completely a dumb thing to say. I guess they had to get the perverted comment/joke out of the way as quick as possible. Quinn & Liddy looking into Dexter, and later, Lumen was pretty entertaining (well to me anyways). Peter Weller plays a great butthole in the stuff he's in...I thought it was funny that as Season 5 of Dexter was wrapping up, he was also in the Season 5(?) finale of Psych as well. I still don't know how Showtime and the showrunners, producers, etc. thought that series finale was even good. Hell, the Breaking Bad finale that followed a week after that mess was what a proper series finale should be. It's mindboggling. The only thing I can think is, having looked into it a bit, Showtime didn't even make it official that S8 would be the last until about half way through filming the season...doesn't even leave the best writers working a whole lot of time to wrap up the story set in place, loose ends, contractual obligations, etc... Honestly, that's the dumbest way to conduct business. Any other network/show/etc. woulda said that it was gonna be a show's last season before filming even started, not 1/2 way through. After that whole finale heap, I canceled Showtime. I only pickup the DVDs of Homeland though since I still enjoy that show.
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Dexter
Feb 27, 2015 19:38:34 GMT -5
Post by Robert69 on Feb 27, 2015 19:38:34 GMT -5
The only thing I can think is, having looked into it a bit, Showtime didn't even make it official that S8 would be the last until about half way through filming the season...doesn't even leave the best writers working a whole lot of time to wrap up the story set in place, loose ends, contractual obligations, etc... Honestly, that's the dumbest way to conduct business. Any other network/show/etc. woulda said that it was gonna be a show's last season before filming even started, not 1/2 way through. After that whole finale heap, I canceled Showtime. I only pickup the DVDs of Homeland though since I still enjoy that show. I'm only assuming my math from working stuff before applies here. They announced in April that it was the final season. First ep aired end of June. They should have been roughly half way, or close to it, through filming S8, when Showtime was like "We're done". I'm certain there were meetings when they were like "What else do we have to tell here?" and with MCH himself being an EP, he was invariably asked, "Do you want to continue playing Dexter?" that happened prior to S8 starting, but -- it's not irregular for companies to call it quits half way through filming, go to the writers and be like "Wrap it up"...
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Dexter
Feb 27, 2015 22:54:24 GMT -5
Post by Robert69 on Feb 27, 2015 22:54:24 GMT -5
Weak ass ending.
Everything was fine, up until those last 30 seconds...rest is in white, for anyone who hasn't seen the show...
If they were going to go this route, they should have had him go back to his killing ways. That should have been the very last thing we saw. The dude going in and sitting down, shouldn't have been him. It should have been a target, with him giving one final spiel about how he had to go back to his old ways, with Harry walking up to him. Fade out.
Would have been so much better, than just cutting out right there. Just -- meh. Great show, though. Love it. All but that final scene.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2015 23:47:40 GMT -5
Totally agreed about the Skinner. The sad part is that before he was revealed to just be some weird foreign guy who was after drug money, he was pretty creepy. Skinning people? That's intense. What a waste. As far as season 5 goes, I loved Lumen. And honestly, it wasn't the villains that enticed me in season 5. Honestly they were secondary, if not tertiary to what was important to me that season. What I found really well done in season 5 was the character development. All the drama surrounding everyone was just really intriguing. The dynamic between Dexter and Lumen and all the other characters was just phenomenal. I was really sad to see Lumen go. And it always bothered me that she never cameoed later on. My only complaint about Season 5 actually was the very first episode. They handled Rita's death very oddly. I thought it was really strange that Debra like didn't cry or feel anything. She just ran in like oh Dex you okay? Cool let's go to my apartment. I mean her ing sister in law just died brutally. They spent a lot of time together. Hell the whole squad's reaction just didn't fit the severity of the situation. This was punctuated by the worst line in the history of the show. When Masuka is looking at Dexter's dead wife in a bathtub and says... "I've imagined her naked plenty of times, but never like this." Really? Dexter's wife is dead in a ing bathtub and you say that? Even for Masuka, even for a TV show, that was just poorly written. Aside from that though, season 5 was fantastic. But Season 8... Ugh. ing disgrace. Yeah that was completely a dumb thing to say. I guess they had to get the perverted comment/joke out of the way as quick as possible. Quinn & Liddy looking into Dexter, and later, Lumen was pretty entertaining (well to me anyways). Peter Weller plays a great butthole in the stuff he's in...I thought it was funny that as Season 5 of Dexter was wrapping up, he was also in the Season 5(?) finale of Psych as well. I still don't know how Showtime and the showrunners, producers, etc. thought that series finale was even good. Hell, the Breaking Bad finale that followed a week after that mess was what a proper series finale should be. It's mindboggling. I know right? I remember during Talking Bad I was hoping so hard for someone to just ask Vince Gilligan "Can you give the writers of Dexter and Lost a phone call?" Oh BTW... I completely FORGOT to mention the biggest crime of the final season... DEXTER WAS NEVER CAUGHT!!! ? What the ing ? Everyone on this earth was waiting since the beginning for the rush of Dexter's secret being exposed. It's ironic that Breaking Bad aired parallel (well one week longer) to Dexter... They both had an antihero who's secret life was crumbling down. The only difference is Breaking Bad did it right and Dexter blew it. So all this talk of Dexter got me rethinking about the last season. This is just an idea I came up with and it may sound horrible, but it's really interesting if you think about it. Think back on season 1. His brother, Deb getting engaged, etc. What if... And again this is way left field... But what if season 1 had actually been season 8. By that I mean, they could have had the spamdie in season 1 just be someone random killer and have just developed Dexter and Deb's characters without the Rudy aspect. Saving Rudy for season 8 would have made a lot of sense. For one, it would have given Dexter a true worthy adversary (the brain surgeon was lame). Also, Deb had committment issues the whole series except the very beginning, where she was willing to marry a guy after like what a few weeks lol? It would have been more logical for her to be afraid of commitment and then finally in the last season find her true love (or so she thinks). They could have introduced Rudy in season 7 and then have him cross over into season 8. No Dexter villain had spanned more than 1 season. Again a multiple season arc would have really given him prowess as a final villain. Hell, imagine if Rudy killed Deb in the final season. I loved Deb and killing her was bold... But the way she died was just stupid. crap they could have had a "red wedding" type scene where Rudy takes her in a bedroom aboard the ship for their honeymoon, and just as they're about to consummate, he ing kills her. How's that for the end of an episode?? Or another idea... Dexter saves Deb from Rudy and in revenge, he somehow exposes their secrets to the world (again somehow would need good writing for this) before Dexter kills him. That would be episode 7 or so. The rest of the final season would be Dex and Deb on the run. And, in the season finale, Dexter would be packing his bags ready to go on the run with Deb... And when he goes to pick her up, he finds her in apartment... She hung herself. She never recovered from all the guilt and the stress just proved too much. Dexter drops the bags and turns himself in. The final scene shows Dexter about to get the lethal injection. He gives one last epic monologue. (Now this next idea is one that the original showrunner for Dexter shared and it fits perfectly with my version here)... As Dex looks around at the end the execution room and the witnesses behind the glass, he doesn't see the families of the people he killed. Instead, he sees every person he killed himself... Everyone, Trinity, Lila, Doomsday, etc. And the final person he sees is Deb, looking at him coldly. The shot gets administered... Dexter dies. Anyways, yeah that was my idea for a plotline for the final season. Sorry that was a mouthful, but it's just really refreshing to discuss Dexter with someone who saw it for its glory... And epic shortcomings in the same eye as me.
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Post by Planktung on Feb 28, 2015 0:00:33 GMT -5
I enjoyed Seasons 1, 4 and 7 on just about an equal level, but if forced to choose, I'd go with 4 as my favorite. I'm a pretty big mark for Dexter, so I didn't hate any of the seasons, though I do view 8 as the weakest.
4 > 7 > 1 > 2 > 6 > 5 > 3 > 8 would be my personal ranking.
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Dexter
Feb 28, 2015 4:38:46 GMT -5
Post by ¡Twist Of Lime Green Jello! on Feb 28, 2015 4:38:46 GMT -5
Isaac Sirko still remains my favourite villain. He was the type that could have a conversation with you one second then kill you the next. His Terminator-esque killing in the bar and the arrogance he showed by sitting in the crime scene of Dexter's kill. Such a great character. Yeah that was completely a dumb thing to say. I guess they had to get the perverted comment/joke out of the way as quick as possible. Quinn & Liddy looking into Dexter, and later, Lumen was pretty entertaining (well to me anyways). Peter Weller plays a great butthole in the stuff he's in...I thought it was funny that as Season 5 of Dexter was wrapping up, he was also in the Season 5(?) finale of Psych as well. I still don't know how Showtime and the showrunners, producers, etc. thought that series finale was even good. Hell, the Breaking Bad finale that followed a week after that mess was what a proper series finale should be. It's mindboggling. The only thing I can think is, having looked into it a bit, Showtime didn't even make it official that S8 would be the last until about half way through filming the season...doesn't even leave the best writers working, a whole lot of time to wrap up the story set in place, loose ends, contractual obligations, etc... It was announced long before season 8 was announced that it would be the last.
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Dexter
Feb 28, 2015 5:40:00 GMT -5
Post by The Mask of Truth on Feb 28, 2015 5:40:00 GMT -5
Hands down, season 4. Also liked 2, 1, and whatever series Tom Hanks kid was in.
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Dexter
Feb 28, 2015 5:50:03 GMT -5
Post by King Silva on Feb 28, 2015 5:50:03 GMT -5
Season 4 with Season 1 and 2 being the runners up.
Season 8 and 6 were the weaker seasons imo.
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Feb 28, 2015 6:13:54 GMT -5
Post by Larry David on Feb 28, 2015 6:13:54 GMT -5
I shoulda put Season 5 before Season 3, but I liked Jimmy Smits' character better than Julia Stiles'. Only thing I didn't really like about Season 3 was The Skinner; I thought it was a lame ass "adversary" for Dexter to contend with. Season 5 began with such promise, but at the end it kinda felt like a letdown, I didn't care for Jordan Chase and his merry band of rapists. The Skinner never was the main antagonist in Season 3 though, Miguel was. I loved the first 4 seasons of the show, but it nosedived after that, and Season 8 was a complete car crash, possibly the worst season of any show, ever. It's disappointing that it ended the way it did, because for the first 4 years of it's existence, Dexter was possibly the best show on TV. I'd love it if in, say 5 years time, a good EP, decides to remake the show, with a beginning, middle and end planned out. It wouldn't be a total remake, maybe what they call a reimagining of the show, using the premise of the original and possibly some of it's characters: Trinity, Rudy, Doakes, Lundy etc. Anyway ranking the Seasons in order, IMO: 4,1,2,3,7,5,6...............8
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Post by ✖ AJ on Feb 28, 2015 11:51:46 GMT -5
Season four with the Trinity Killer was ing amazing. John Lithgow's performance was impeccable.
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Dexter
Feb 28, 2015 12:18:02 GMT -5
Post by ICW on Feb 28, 2015 12:18:02 GMT -5
Season 2 was my fave followed closely by 4. However the final episode of the final season soured me TOTALLY on the whole final series. Same. What an idiotic finale.
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Post by HHH316 on Feb 28, 2015 15:19:20 GMT -5
1 & 4 were my favorites
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Feb 28, 2015 19:41:50 GMT -5
Post by saintpatrick33 on Feb 28, 2015 19:41:50 GMT -5
You know 20 years ago I would have loved this stuff but its so over played now with all this CSI stuff its just not for me as it used to be a pretty quit subjuct till Silence came out , man I had ever killer book ever made but the Ripper was my favorite .
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Dexter
Feb 28, 2015 21:52:50 GMT -5
Post by Yambag Jones on Feb 28, 2015 21:52:50 GMT -5
Season 4. After that I barely stayed on for two more seasons. Nothing could compare to the Trinity killer.
The entire series as a whole should have been better. They spent far too much time going nowhere with the poorly written "supporting" characters. Should have been one of the best shows ever. Ended up being a victim to the notes process. Stupid Showtime...
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Dexter
Mar 3, 2015 11:27:21 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 11:27:21 GMT -5
Season 2 was my fave followed closely by 4. However the final episode of the final season soured me TOTALLY on the whole final series. Same. What an idiotic finale. It really was......Good grief.
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Dexter
Mar 3, 2015 12:00:37 GMT -5
Post by Robert69 on Mar 3, 2015 12:00:37 GMT -5
Has anyone read the books the series was based off of?
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Post by Self-Savior on Mar 3, 2015 13:01:41 GMT -5
Has anyone read the books the series was based off of? I have. After the first book, the TV show goes its own way, as does the book series. I haven't finished reading them right; I'm halfway through the fourth book - Dexter is Delicious.
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Dexter
Mar 3, 2015 13:15:49 GMT -5
Post by Robert69 on Mar 3, 2015 13:15:49 GMT -5
Has anyone read the books the series was based off of? I have. After the first book, the TV show goes its own way, as does the book series. I haven't finished reading them right; I'm halfway through the fourth book - Dexter is Delicious. Sweet. May have to pick up the first book, give it a read. Is the show, or the book series, better?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 13:30:14 GMT -5
Has anyone read the books the series was based off of? I read the first one which was really good. Haven't read the rest but I own them.
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