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Post by Chip on Mar 9, 2015 22:26:09 GMT -5
yeah i mean Rollins getting his ass kicked by Orton doesn't really seem like a legit cash-in threat especially when Reigns beats Lesnar after they've spent a year building Lesnar up as the most dominant unstoppable force in the history of wrestling Rollins isn't cashing in at Mania. Vince has picked Roman to be his guy. To be THE guy. He's walking out of Mania cleanly with the WWE title after having beaten the biggest dominant beast in wrestlings history. He's bigger than Cena, He's bigger than Hogan, Austin, Rock, he's the man who's going to carry this company on his back for the next decade + and NO ONE NO ONE GIVES A
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:26:23 GMT -5
Part of the reason the show was so bad was because of the crowd, so yes, they take part of the blame. The crowd ain't booking this crap! That's not the point at all, but thank you for missing it.
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Post by jessem52 on Mar 9, 2015 22:29:13 GMT -5
Who are the wrestlers in the pack? I'm thinking about downloading it. Also, what exactly happened? Lol.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:29:32 GMT -5
The crowd ain't booking this crap! That's not the point at all, but thank you for missing it. But the way raw was set up tonight I don't blame them.Everything from top to bottom could've been handle so much better.
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 9, 2015 22:30:25 GMT -5
It's funny how you guys blame the crowd when the show was pretty f'n bad. As usual. Part of the reason the show was so bad was because of the crowd, so yes, they take part of the blame. What is there to cheer for when they're giving them a horrid Wiz Khalifa concert, a bunch of pointless tag matches, and a horrible main event. Let's top it off with nearly zero momentum in furthering the feud for the main event of Wrestlemania when both men ARE IN THE BUILDING! But no don't do a face to face confrontation because that wouldn't make sense, let's show a video package. Yeah you can cheer.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:33:09 GMT -5
Part of the reason the show was so bad was because of the crowd, so yes, they take part of the blame. What is there to cheer for when they're giving them a horrid Wiz Khalifa concert, a bunch of pointless tag matches, and a horrible main event. Let's top it off with nearly zero momentum in furthering the feud for the main event of Wrestlemania when both men ARE IN THE BUILDING! But no don't do a face to face confrontation because that wouldn't make sense, let's show a video package. Yeah you can cheer. Again, not the point. Fans chanting CM PUNK when there's a pretty solid tag match going on and being silent for the rest of it, killed that match. Crowd being dead for Orton turning on Rollins killed that segment until the end when they came alive. The crowd can make or break a show. If the fans were actually watching the tag matches instead of being idiots and chanting for a guy who left over a year ago, the tag match would've been a lot better and added a bright spot to the show. Same goes for the turn. So yes, the fans take part of the blame. PART OF THE BLAME. PART IS THE KEYWORD. It's like some of you can't read.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 9, 2015 22:34:05 GMT -5
The crowd ain't booking this crap! That's not the point at all, but thank you for missing it. No. I got your fn point. And I stand by the fact that if wwe wants to give them a subpar product this is what wwe deserves. Crowd didnt put together this mess. They just pay to sit through it and I guess they have to cheer because wwe wants them to.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:34:28 GMT -5
That's not the point at all, but thank you for missing it. No. I got your fn point. And I stand by the fact that if wwe wants to give them a subpar product this is what wwe deserves. Crowd didnt put together this mess. They just pay to sit through it and I guess they have to cheer because wwe wants them to. Read the post above.
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Post by HVMMONS on Mar 9, 2015 22:35:07 GMT -5
Who are the wrestlers in the pack? I'm thinking about downloading it. Also, what exactly happened? Lol. The wrestlers are in the description of the first photo.
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Post by jessem52 on Mar 9, 2015 22:36:12 GMT -5
Who are the wrestlers in the pack? I'm thinking about downloading it. Also, what exactly happened? Lol. The wrestlers are in the description of the first photo. Gotcha. I'll probably download it.
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Post by Jaz on Mar 9, 2015 22:37:08 GMT -5
I enjoyed about 12 minutes of tonight's nearly three and a half hour Raw.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 9, 2015 22:39:22 GMT -5
What is there to cheer for when they're giving them a horrid Wiz Khalifa concert, a bunch of pointless tag matches, and a horrible main event. Let's top it off with nearly zero momentum in furthering the feud for the main event of Wrestlemania when both men ARE IN THE BUILDING! But no don't do a face to face confrontation because that wouldn't make sense, let's show a video package. Yeah you can cheer. Again, not the point. Fans chanting CM PUNK when there's a pretty solid tag match going on and being silent for the rest of it, killed that match. Crowd being dead for Orton turning on Rollins killed that segment until the end when they came alive. The crowd can make or break a show. If the fans were actually watching the tag matches instead of being idiots and chanting for a guy who left over a year ago, the tag match would've been a lot better and added a bright spot to the show. Same goes for the turn. So yes, the fans take part of the blame. PART OF THE BLAME. PART IS THE KEYWORD. It's like some of you can't read. Palmer - I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with you. Tonight's show - to me - says nothing about the crowd being bad. It's a bad product. Period. I see your PART of the problem point and I jus don't agree with it. Agree to disagree. There are times when the crowd ruins a show. This wasn't one of them. It's absolutely poor mania buildup and I don't care about any of these matches.
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Post by Hulk Who? on Mar 9, 2015 22:39:38 GMT -5
Am I the only one who thinks it's dumb as hell that we're three weeks from 'Mania, and the two guys in the main event haven't even gone face to face? DUMB Well they haven't had one in the ring, but they had that great one during that Raw from Stamford during the snowstorm. I think that was the best thing Roman has been involved with. He's a mannequin to me and thats pretty much how he acted while Heyman went over the history of Samoans in wrestling. And Seth threw Brock's chair because he's the man.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:40:13 GMT -5
Again, not the point. Fans chanting CM PUNK when there's a pretty solid tag match going on and being silent for the rest of it, killed that match. Crowd being dead for Orton turning on Rollins killed that segment until the end when they came alive. The crowd can make or break a show. If the fans were actually watching the tag matches instead of being idiots and chanting for a guy who left over a year ago, the tag match would've been a lot better and added a bright spot to the show. Same goes for the turn. So yes, the fans take part of the blame. PART OF THE BLAME. PART IS THE KEYWORD. It's like some of you can't read. Palmer - I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with you. That's fine, but the crowd killed two great segments tonight. That's on them, not the booking. So your point falls on deaf ears.
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 9, 2015 22:43:38 GMT -5
What is there to cheer for when they're giving them a horrid Wiz Khalifa concert, a bunch of pointless tag matches, and a horrible main event. Let's top it off with nearly zero momentum in furthering the feud for the main event of Wrestlemania when both men ARE IN THE BUILDING! But no don't do a face to face confrontation because that wouldn't make sense, let's show a video package. Yeah you can cheer. Again, not the point. Fans chanting CM PUNK when there's a pretty solid tag match going on and being silent for the rest of it, killed that match. Crowd being dead for Orton turning on Rollins killed that segment until the end when they came alive. The crowd can make or break a show. If the fans were actually watching the tag matches instead of being idiots and chanting for a guy who left over a year ago, the tag match would've been a lot better and added a bright spot to the show. Same goes for the turn. So yes, the fans take part of the blame. PART OF THE BLAME. PART IS THE KEYWORD. It's like some of you can't read. Considering that we're 3 weeks from 'Mania, fans are expecting a bit more. This seems like a buildup for a decent SummerSlam, not the biggest show of the year. And the only tag match that the chanted CM Punk for was Usos vs Los Matadores. Not a match to go crazy for anyways. And everyone saw the Orton turn coming a mile away so that's not too exciting either. You know what would have gotten a good reaction? Roman Reigns and Brock Lesnar going face to face in a confrontation instead of wasting Brock's appearance by having him stand in front of a camera for 10 minutes. Again, nothing to cheer for.
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Post by MattelsRule on Mar 9, 2015 22:43:43 GMT -5
Palmer - I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with you. That's fine, but the crowd killed two great segments tonight. That's on them, not the booking. So your point falls on deaf ears. I think the whole booking of Orton/Rollins has been garbage. I think a lot of people here agree with me. It was very predictable that Orton would turn, it was anticlimactic and the segment went way too long. As for the tag match - are you referring to the Matadores? A team that's been booked as jobbers since day one - they get a random as win over Usos - and suddenly 2 weeks before Mania I'm supposed to give a turd about them? Definitely not on the booking.....
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:46:12 GMT -5
That's fine, but the crowd killed two great segments tonight. That's on them, not the booking. So your point falls on deaf ears. I think the whole booking of Orton/Rollins has been garbage. I think a lot of people here agree with me. It was very predictable that Orton would turn, it was anticlimactic and the segment went way too long. As for the tag match - are you referring to the Matadores? A team that's been booked as jobbers since day one - they get a random as win over Usos - and suddenly 2 weeks before Mania I'm supposed to give a turd about them? Definitely not on the booking..... Again, not the point. Not sure how you keep whiffing. I'll let you stew in your own filth here. When you figure out what I mean, and I mean actually figure it out, let me know.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 9, 2015 22:46:59 GMT -5
I passed out at 8:30 and clearly didn't miss much.
Did they really have Lesnar in the building, and go all night without he and Roman crossing paths?
Really?
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 9, 2015 22:47:19 GMT -5
Again, not the point. Fans chanting CM PUNK when there's a pretty solid tag match going on and being silent for the rest of it, killed that match. Crowd being dead for Orton turning on Rollins killed that segment until the end when they came alive. The crowd can make or break a show. If the fans were actually watching the tag matches instead of being idiots and chanting for a guy who left over a year ago, the tag match would've been a lot better and added a bright spot to the show. Same goes for the turn. So yes, the fans take part of the blame. PART OF THE BLAME. PART IS THE KEYWORD. It's like some of you can't read. Palmer - I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with you. Tonight's show - to me - says nothing about the crowd being bad. It's a bad product. Period. I see your PART of the problem point and I jus don't agree with it. Agree to disagree. There are times when the crowd ruins a show. This wasn't one of them. It's absolutely poor mania buildup and I don't care about any of these matches. Exactly, if this was a killer show and the crowd was butchering it for no reason then it would be 100% the crowds fault. But this isn't the case. We got a mediocre Raw on the road to the biggest show of the year with the same crap we've seen for months. It's nothing to go crazy over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:48:49 GMT -5
Palmer - I understand what you are saying. I just don't agree with you. Tonight's show - to me - says nothing about the crowd being bad. It's a bad product. Period. I see your PART of the problem point and I jus don't agree with it. Agree to disagree. There are times when the crowd ruins a show. This wasn't one of them. It's absolutely poor mania buildup and I don't care about any of these matches. Exactly, if this was a killer show and the crowd was butchering it for no reason then it would be 100% the crowds fault. But this isn't the case. We got a mediocre Raw on the road to the biggest show of the year with the same crap we've seen for months. It's nothing to go crazy over. Apparently you keep missing the part portion of what I've been saying. That's fine, I'm done with this conversation, not worth debating with you two.
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