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Post by Robert69 on Mar 14, 2015 6:36:05 GMT -5
This thread is turning religious fast.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 6:36:30 GMT -5
Lots of religious analogies in this thread......and I'm not sure why. Reigns is fast becoming the new Cena on this board.....
If you say you like him the anti Reigns camp will be all over you.....in seconds
if you say you dislike him? The same snarky gang who always defended Cena will try insult you in a roundabout way.
Ah yeah we have seen it all before.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 14, 2015 6:38:55 GMT -5
Lots of religious analogies in this thread......and I'm not sure why. Reigns is fast becoming the new Cena on this board..... If you say you like him the anti Reigns camp will be all over you.....in seconds if you say you dislike him? The same snarky gang who always defended Cena will try insult you in a roundabout way.Ah yeah we have seen it all before. How DARE YOU, Sir! ...I have never defended Cena!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 6:43:50 GMT -5
Lots of religious analogies in this thread......and I'm not sure why. Reigns is fast becoming the new Cena on this board..... If you say you like him the anti Reigns camp will be all over you.....in seconds if you say you dislike him? The same snarky gang who always defended Cena will try insult you in a roundabout way.Ah yeah we have seen it all before. How DARE YOU, Sir! ...I have never defended Cena! LOL.......I was describing a VERY specific group there man!!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 7:50:38 GMT -5
Cena has 'it'?
Debatable...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 8:39:34 GMT -5
You've done it. Robert69 and W are easy to have REAL conversations about the topic with. #RoadtoRomania says a lot of things I disagree with but isn't snarky. So you sometimes and definitely NMS when he's around. It's his gimmick and all he's got. I admit there are more on the Reigns hate side but they are more angry than snarky. Regardless, it's absurd for you to play like that side is innocent. Mother er acting as if I proclaim Roman Reigns as the new son of God. I don't even like him!! NMS hasn't been on the board in 10 days now yet you still continue to make jokes at his expense. Says something, don't it... NMS is missing?
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Post by hbkowns on Mar 14, 2015 9:10:24 GMT -5
Sorry my friend, Reigns is no Rock. AT ALL. Rock had "IT". Reigns will be lucky if he even draws half of what Rock did. Different fan base. Different eras. Lot of variables between the two. I wasn't saying it as in 'Reigns is Rock' -- he's not. I agree. Rock is one of the best of all time. Reigns probably will never be. But my meaning was simply that, if he's chosen as one of the 'faces' of the company. He could be used as such, in either a face, or heel, capacity. Like Rocky was. That was my point. I see. I get you're point. But they're going to ruin any shot of getting him over because this is wayyy to early for him and the fanbase isn't really buying into him. It could potentially damage him forever.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 9:28:26 GMT -5
Different fan base. Different eras. Lot of variables between the two. I wasn't saying it as in 'Reigns is Rock' -- he's not. I agree. Rock is one of the best of all time. Reigns probably will never be. But my meaning was simply that, if he's chosen as one of the 'faces' of the company. He could be used as such, in either a face, or heel, capacity. Like Rocky was. That was my point. I see. I get you're point. But they're going to ruin any shot of getting him over because this is wayyy to early for him and the fanbase isn't really buying into him. It could potentially damage him forever. It sure could....I still genuinely believe that next year was Romans year. He should have been the guy to topple Rusev at this years WM IMO. I like RR.....but I don't want him in this spot right now and I think WWE have hobbled him so to speak.
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Post by bigshab421 on Mar 14, 2015 9:31:50 GMT -5
The problem isnt Roman Reigns. The problem is WWE put a screeching halt to Daniel Bryan's story, The story that has now gone on for well over a year and a half at this point and the story people are heavily invested into, then decided out of nowhere to give Roman this mega push in the middle of it, Despite only having 1-2 singles matches at the beginning of the push. Daniel Bryan returned back from injury after getting stripped of the title, He enters the Rumble and gets eliminated like a low mid carder. Fans are INVESTED in this storyline. This of course outraged the living out of everyone and they turned on Roman when he won. If WWE weren't so ing intellectually- disabled, They would have let Daniel Bryan complete his story with the Authority "You want your title back? You have to go through Brock to get it". Then have Roman Reigns win the Rumble next year and main event the show. Everything would have been cooled and fans would have been on his side. Look at this like a tv series like Walking Dead or Breaking Bad. You dont have a story go on for a year, then decide to replace the main hero character out of nowhere and insert some backing character to take the lead. Fans will be OUTRAGED by that decision.
As lovely as that sounds you forget one thing. They sacrificed the streak so they could establish a new topstar at the next WrestleMania. It seems like that was the plan all along with Reigns being this next guy. Your storyline makes sense but Bryan getting injured directly after WrestleMania XXX screwed everything over. Had they known this beforehand then they could have waited a year so Brock would defeat Taker at 31 with Reigns winning the Rumble and winning the title against Lesnar at 32.
And it's so funny, too. WWE gets criticized alot for not having a long-term plan and just booking from PPV to PPV and once they come up with a good plan some factor (in this case Bryan's injury) s everything up.
That's the main problem. Why would you sacrifice one of the selling points of your annual show for a guy who people are not invested in? I'm sorry but even before Reigns got hurt, he was not anywhere close to getting the reactions Rollins, Ambrose, or hell even Ziggler were getting. I like Reigns but I feel bad for him. Creative gives him nothing, no ring gear change, no music change, nothing! He has no personality at all. Vince has lost his touch. You dont take the Streak away amd give it to a part timer like Lesnar. And you most certainly dont have Lesnar job to a guy green as grass with 2 ppv matches. Its just insanity. All they had to do was have Reigns defeat Rusev at Mania and he would have been over HUGE. GUARANTEED. I just feel like Reigns has been put in a lose lose situation and its sad. Sad for the fans and sad for him, because it is plain to see he will flop as a champion this early.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 14, 2015 9:43:18 GMT -5
I see. I get you're point. But they're going to ruin any shot of getting him over because this is wayyy to early for him and the fanbase isn't really buying into him. It could potentially damage him forever. It sure could....I still genuinely believe that next year was Romans year. He should have been the guy to topple Rusev at this years WM IMO. I like RR.....but I don't want him in this spot right now and I think WWE have hobbled him so to speak. In retrospect, I would have had it play out like this, personally. Keep Roman off TV until the Monday after the Rumble. Have him do that video he did saying "I'm coming back". Rollins should have won Superstar of the Year, to give him more heat. Have D Bry come back, win the RR, go to WM. Lesnar beats Taker, goes in to WM, and D Bry takes him to the limit in a No DQ match for the WWEWHC, but Lesnar pins D Bry. The Beast's reign continues, even if he can barely stand. Rollins comes out, along with the Authority and while Lesnar fights back, ultimately it's too much, and Rollins takes the title off him. All the while, bring Reigns back and have Rusev continue running through opponents. Nobody can stop him. Lana's giving her "He's the best!" speech, and Reigns' music hits. INSTANT fan love. You literally make the dude in one instant. He could come out and say "Yabba Dabba Doo, that's all folks!" and the arena would explode for him. Have them go back and forth until Mania, where Reigns takes the title off him. The Monday night after Mania, Heyman comes out and says it took all these guys to get the Title off Lesnar. He'll be back at Summer Slam, and have Lesnar do literally two shows. SS where he comes back and destroys Rollins and Co. for the Title, then WM, where he drops it, clean, to Reigns, who would have lost the US Title to Cena, or maybe one of the upcoming NXT guys. Just armchair booking, though, and obviously WWE doesn't pay me for this s**t.
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Post by threehgame on Mar 14, 2015 10:16:01 GMT -5
Wait, he still does the stairwell entrance so he can scalp tickets and have fans smell him? Vince just came up with an amazing new gimmick right there.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 10:45:35 GMT -5
5 pages of people saying the same thing they said in the last Roman Reigns topic, and the one before that, and the one before that. How many times do we need to hear the same people saying 'I like Roman Reigns but he's not ready for a WrestleMania main event yet'? me, I think that has been established lol. Aside from that, I keep seeing Dolph Ziggler being mentioned and I don't think he's good enough either. I'm a big fan and I'd be fine with him getting an opportunity like Reigns is getting right now (I'd be fine with a lot of guys getting that opportunity in fact), but he's not exactly anything special either. Maybe if fans consistently put more effort into blowing the roof off for Ziggler than crapping on Reigns, he might actually get that push we want him to get. But I've noticed in recent times, these fans focus on the negatives. They'd much rather boo the crapout of stuff they don't like than really get behind stuff they do like, and that's half the problem. They pushed Reigns because he was ing popular over the last year and a half. Simple as. If fans want a Ziggler or an Ambrose to get attention, half-assed attempts at supporting them aren't gonna show that.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 10:57:07 GMT -5
The hate on Reigns is ridiculous, imo.
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Post by The Kevstaaa on Mar 14, 2015 11:03:35 GMT -5
5 pages of people saying the same thing they said in the last Roman Reigns topic, and the one before that, and the one before that. How many times do we need to hear the same people saying 'I like Roman Reigns but he's not ready for a WrestleMania main event yet'? me, I think that has been established lol. Aside from that, I keep seeing Dolph Ziggler being mentioned and I don't think he's good enough either. I'm a big fan and I'd be fine with him getting an opportunity like Reigns is getting right now (I'd be fine with a lot of guys getting that opportunity in fact), but he's not exactly anything special either. Maybe if fans consistently put more effort into blowing the roof off for Ziggler than crapping on Reigns, he might actually get that push we want him to get. But I've noticed in recent times, these fans focus on the negatives. They'd much rather boo the crap out of stuff they don't like than really get behind stuff they do like, and that's half the problem. They pushed Reigns because he was ing popular over the last year and a half. Simple as. If fans want a Ziggler or an Ambrose to get attention, half-assed attempts at supporting them aren't gonna show that. Maybe Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose aren't good enough but the one thing I wholeheartedly disagree with is that the fans should "put more effort into blowing the roof off for them." While fans indeed focus on the negatives too much, Dolph and Dean usually get the the biggest pops on shows besides Daniel Bryan.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 11:06:58 GMT -5
"Smell me" - Roman Reigns
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 11:08:57 GMT -5
"Smell me" - Roman Reigns
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 14, 2015 11:11:44 GMT -5
"Smell me" - Roman Reigns
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 11:31:39 GMT -5
The KevstaaaWhen I come over for Wrestlemania we gonna take a shot everytime someone smells Roman Reigns during his entrance. Looks like I'll be crashing on your couch.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2015 11:42:15 GMT -5
5 pages of people saying the same thing they said in the last Roman Reigns topic, and the one before that, and the one before that. How many times do we need to hear the same people saying 'I like Roman Reigns but he's not ready for a WrestleMania main event yet'? me, I think that has been established lol. Aside from that, I keep seeing Dolph Ziggler being mentioned and I don't think he's good enough either. I'm a big fan and I'd be fine with him getting an opportunity like Reigns is getting right now (I'd be fine with a lot of guys getting that opportunity in fact), but he's not exactly anything special either. Maybe if fans consistently put more effort into blowing the roof off for Ziggler than crapping on Reigns, he might actually get that push we want him to get. But I've noticed in recent times, these fans focus on the negatives. They'd much rather boo the crap out of stuff they don't like than really get behind stuff they do like, and that's half the problem. They pushed Reigns because he was ing popular over the last year and a half. Simple as. If fans want a Ziggler or an Ambrose to get attention, half-assed attempts at supporting them aren't gonna show that. Maybe Dolph Ziggler and Dean Ambrose aren't good enough but the one thing I wholeheartedly disagree with is that the fans should "put more effort into blowing the roof off for them." While fans indeed focus on the negatives too much, Dolph and Dean usually get the the biggest pops on shows besides Daniel Bryan. Hmm. I'll be paying close attention to that in the coming weeks then. I mean, they both certainly have had some huge reactions and seem to have pretty big followings, but fans tend to boo every word said and every move performed by a guy they don't like than cheer the guys they are fans of (aside from popping for the opening notes of an entrance theme). Again, not true of all live audiences but it's something I've noticed quite often.
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Post by Robert69 on Mar 14, 2015 11:44:57 GMT -5
The KevstaaaWhen I come over for Wrestlemania we gonna take a shot everytime someone smells Roman Reigns during his entrance. Looks like I'll be crashing on your couch. So drunk, you all will be on WFigs like...
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